Campus Accommodation 2011/2012

Dingle Ranger

Does anyone know when we will be likely to find out if we have been offered rooms?

Groinshot

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

Does anyone know when we will be likely to find out if we have been offered rooms?

Last year we had to accept by 20th may; Can't be too long from now?

Kwekubo

This week, or so I have been told.

Crania

It's pretty ridiculous how long we have had to wait. We applied back in March. Surely they could've had it all sorted before the exams started?

I hope you're right that it's this week.

Jaych1000

I applied for on-campus and I'm doing a postgrad.
I got an email on Monday (9th May) to say that no more postgraduates will be offered main campus accommodation.

They did reserve a spot for me in Trinity Halls but I declined the offer.

Dingle Ranger

Jaych1000 wrote: »

I applied for on-campus and I'm doing a postgrad.
I got an email on Monday (9th May) to say that no more postgraduates will be offered main campus accommodation.

They did reserve a spot for me in Trinity Halls but I declined the offer.

Thats the postgrad room allocations though. Undergrads are waiting to find out about their rooms

Dingle Ranger

Doesn't look like it'll be today eithier. Probably not til late next week what with this royal visit as well

5989

Was there a greater than usual number of applicants than normal this year? what % of third years get on campus spots does anyone know, roughly?

Dingle Ranger

The only 3rd years who can get are people who qualify through disability and those who get them has DUCAC or CSC guarantees for sports club and society involvement.

5989

ya was aware of that but was just wondering whether it was good enough to be on the committee of a club/society but I'd imagine its certain clubs etc

Dingle Ranger

5989 wrote: »

ya was aware of that but was just wondering whether it was good enough to be on the committee of a club/society but I'd imagine its certain clubs etc

Yeah societies get awarded them based on the CSC awards. Say society of the year would be given two rooms. Every club gets one for its captain AFAIK

5989

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

Yeah societies get awarded them based on the CSC awards. Say society of the year would be given two rooms. Every club gets one for its captain AFAIK

cheers..not so sure if every club gets one for the captain..think there might only be 8 club rooms available...for the major sports I presume.

PurpleFistMixer

Jaych1000 wrote: »

I got an email on Monday (9th May) to say that no more postgraduates will be offered main campus accommodation.

But some postgrads got on campus? I (as a future fourth year) applied with three postgrads, and we'd all rather like to be on campus...

Dingle Ranger

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

But some postgrads got on campus? I (as a future fourth year) applied with three postgrads, and we'd all rather like to be on campus...

Yeah some do but I think they have some sort of limit on it. Unless the people you have applied with have received an e-mail saying otherwise, I would say it is safe to presume that they are being offered accommodation.

gearoidof

Schols are exempt from the limits obvously,

And no, club captains most certainly do not all get free on campus accom.

British sports + Gaelic + soccer get it, I think, and that's about it.

Dingle Ranger

gearoidof wrote: »

Schols are exempt from the limits obvously,

And no, club captains most certainly do not all get free on campus accom.

British sports + Gaelic + soccer get it, I think, and that's about it.

I didn't say they get free accommodation. They just get guarantees of an offer.

And sorry I got it wrong about the club captain thing. It is only the bigger clubs that get a room. I know swimming club captain gets one aswell. Sub-aqua too.

PurpleFistMixer

gearoidof wrote: »

Schols are exempt from the limits obvously

Not with all this talk of potentially putting scholars in trinity hall (as is my concern).

Dr.Reid

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

Not with all this talk of potentially putting scholars in trinity hall (as is my concern).

Do people really think this will happen? I checked the box on my application saying that I didn't mind being placed in another location but I presumed it meant I would be on campus or in Goldsmith.

I found out about putting scholars in Halls afterwards and I'm in James's for lectures which is ages away from there .

gamma23

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

I know swimming club captain gets one aswell.

Didn't stop a rejection this year though, at least at first.

Dr.Reid wrote: »

Do people really think this will happen? I checked the box on my application saying that I didn't mind being placed in another location but I presumed it meant I would be on campus or in Goldsmith.

I found out about putting scholars in Halls afterwards and I'm in James's for lectures which is ages away from there .

I heard Barra put an end to that, so no i don't think it will happen.

Groinshot

Dr.Reid wrote: »

I found out about putting scholars in Halls afterwards and I'm in James's for lectures which is ages away from there .

Halls is a 15 minute cycle from james's

gamma23

Every time I get an email I think it might be about campus next year, buts its always something I dont care about. When are they gonna send this stuff out??? Then again I guess the office is closed today so not much chance it will be today.

5989

Anytime now...surely....maybe not...

cookiemonst3r

Just got my offer! Botany Bay...

Check your emails!

gamma23

Perfect!

d93c2inhxfok4y

Just got mine too, Goldsmith. Kinda disappointed, thought schols would have swung campus and a lot of people I know seem to have gotten campus.

nicola09

Got Goldsmith as well, house 61, I was hoping to miraculously be offered front square or something but I suppose I'll get there eventually!

Fringe

Goldsmith 64!

Crania

Didn't get an offer. Very disappointed. Put myself down for the waiting list. Hopefully I'll still get an offer.

I'm 4th Year and from well outside Dublin although I applied very late (second last day) so that may have been a factor.

I'll be very pissed if I don't eventually get an offer and someone from Dublin, who's not a Scholar or sports captain, gets one, which I know several cases of from last year.

Liquorice

I was in Front Square this year and Goldsmith last year and honestly they're comparable from the inside. The living area and kitchen were bigger in front square but apart from that there was no major difference in the quality of life I had in either.

Got offered GMB; haven't even finished applying for my masters yet so I'm gonna hang on to make sure they don't tell me to eff off before putting a deposit down.

mathew

Liquorice wrote: »

I was in Front Square this year and Goldsmith last year and honestly they're comparable from the inside. The living area and kitchen were bigger in front square but apart from that there was no major difference in the quality of life I had in either.

Got offered GMB; haven't even finished applying for my masters yet so I'm gonna hang on to make sure they don't tell me to eff off before putting a deposit down.

How did you apply with out being accepted for a masters?

5989

Crania wrote: »

Didn't get an offer. Very disappointed. Put myself down for the waiting list. Hopefully I'll still get an offer.

I'm 4th Year and from well outside Dublin although I applied very late (second last day) so that may have been a factor.

I'll be very pissed if I don't eventually get an offer and someone from Dublin, who's not a Scholar or sports captain, gets one, which I know several cases of from last year.

how do you get yourself on the waiting list? did you get an email saying you didnt get campus?

gamma23

5989 wrote: »

how do you get yourself on the waiting list? did you get an email saying you didnt get campus?

Last years rejection email said you got on the waiting list following the instructions on your accomodation/studentboookings account

Dear Student,

Round 1 undergraduate allocations have now been completed. We regret that you have not been successful at this time.

...

If you wish to have your name placed on the list, you must log into your online acount and follow the instructions.

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL TO PLACE YOUR NAME ON THE WAITING LIST.

5989

gamma23 wrote: »

Last years rejection email said you got on the waiting list following the instructions on your accomodation/studentboookings account

haven't got any email and my account says my application hasnt been reviewed yet. Have emailed residences.

gaeilgeboy

Liquorice wrote: »

Got offered GMB; haven't even finished applying for my masters yet so I'm gonna hang on to make sure they don't tell me to eff off before putting a deposit down.

I don't think they're letting my apply until my postgrad's been accepted. How'd you get allocated a place?

Crania

Everyone I've spoken to has got a place on campus, including several people from Dublin. I find it hard to understand how I didn't get a place. I'm from well outside Dublin, will be a 4th year and applied with someone. Does anyone know if they use particular methods to select people apart from complete randomness and the application form? Perhaps they pick people based on how early you applied? I applied very late so I was just thinking that perhaps that was an issue.

gamma23

If anyone does have any idea how they decide I would also love to know, it would take one thing of my list of things to find out for next year.

cookiemonst3r

They put our faces on a dartboard and whoever gets a hit gets a room!!

gutenberg

The only people guaranteed rooms are scholars, and some club captains/society heads.

As far as selection goes, I was led to believe that there is a lottery process, with 'weightings' for factors like whether you're from outside Dublin etc., which determines a lot of the places.

Whatever method they use, it's patently ridiculous. Two of my best friends applied for campus together- one from the North, one from Dublin, and the friend from Dublin got it, but not the girl from the North!
Equally, I have friends who lived on campus this year, and they live in Dun Laoghaire, one of the best-served areas for public transport in Dublin! It boggles the mind.

Pet

Think that's bad? There was a guy living downstairs from me last year who was from Ranelagh. The town side. Wasn't a sports club captain or a scholar or nothin' either, but a class rep. Great guy and all, but like...Ranelagh? That's closer than most non-Dublin students ever get to live, and even if they do, they don't get the benefit of a full fridge and mammy doing the laundry and cooking.

Sometimes he went home for lunch. Ranelagh home.


*boggle*

ApeXaviour

gutenberg wrote: »

As far as selection goes, I was led to believe that there is a lottery process, with 'weightings' for factors like whether you're from outside Dublin etc., which determines a lot of the places.

I think you might not be giving the accommodation office's organisational ability the right amount of credit. It's much more likely each student is statistically weighted based upon an eeny meeny miny moe distribution.

goingnowhere

The insiders guide

1. Is final year student (+)
2. Have they lived on campus/halls before (-)
3. Lives outside Dublin (+)
4. Demonstrated engagement in community activity in TCD (sports, societies etc) (+)
5. Personal statement

So if you have never lived in Halls/Campus have a non Dublin address, are an active member in a CSC or DUCAC club/society and are a final year you are likely to get in

No secret its published online

Students with entitlements, e.g. Scholars, are allocated rooms according to the regulations governing their entitlement.
All remaining rooms will be allocated so as to meet the objectives of creating a vibrant academic community in line with the vision of College outlined in the Strategic Plan.
In order to give as many students as possible the experience of living in college residences, the expectation is that students would be allocated a place on campus for no more than one year (unless students have an entitlement to rooms).
Applicants will be distributed according to the proposed distribution given below.
Evidence of significant contribution to college life will be taken into account.
While preference will be given to applicants from outside Dublin, all applications will be considered.
Where other criteria are equal, rooms will be allocated by random selection.

PurpleFistMixer

Pet wrote: »

Think that's bad? There was a guy living downstairs from me last year who was from Ranelagh. The town side. Wasn't a sports club captain or a scholar or nothin' either, but a class rep. Great guy and all, but like...Ranelagh? That's closer than most non-Dublin students ever get to live, and even if they do, they don't get the benefit of a full fridge and mammy doing the laundry and cooking.

Sometimes he went home for lunch. Ranelagh home.


*boggle*

Maybe they put down some other address when they were applying? Totally ridiculous, regardless.

In other accommodation news, one of my intended future flatmates hasn't been offered a place, despite being a scholar. The office are saying it's because he's a postgrad and their offers go out later, but this makes no sense given one of my other future flatmates has received an offer, while also being a postgrad. (And neither of them are first year postgrads either...)

Crania

goingnowhere wrote: »

The insiders guide

1. Is final year student (+)
2. Have they lived on campus/halls before (-)
3. Lives outside Dublin (+)
4. Demonstrated engagement in community activity in TCD (sports, societies etc) (+)
5. Personal statement

So if you have never lived in Halls/Campus have a non Dublin address, are an active member in a CSC or DUCAC club/society and are a final year you are likely to get in

No secret its published online

1. I will be a final year student (+)
2. I have lived in Halls for one year, so perhaps that went against me, but I know lots of people who got campus offers who have lived in Halls for two years whereas I've only been there one year. (+)
3. I'm from south Co. Wexford, c. 160km south of Dublin city centre. I think that counts as being 'outside Dublin'. (+)
4. I have previously been on a college society committee, been involved with various different societies, am on the committee of a society next year and, in fact, I'm also the Chair of another (albeit small) society next year! Surely that's a demonstration of 'engagement in community activity in TCD'. (+)
5. I wrote a personal statement outlining all these things. (+)

Therefore, the only thing going against me is that I lived in Halls for a year two years ago. I didn't cause one single bit of trouble there so it's not as if I could've been 'blacklisted' or something.

Why is so much of the bureaucracy is Trinity so very inept? They better not leave it another two months before letting us know about offers for people on the waiting list.

goingnowhere

You lived in Halls for a year, thats a serious negative against you and therefore you were refused in line with the published guidelines.

Bear in mind "I am a member of society x" = 0, "I'm an active member of society x" = 0, "I am on the committee of society x" = something

There is a weighting attached to each element, they are not equal, thats the big secret. The policy is agreed with the SU welfare/education officer

estfos

Campus accomodation is overrated. I've had it twice, and it was worth it when city centre rents were hitting 700, but now that they've dropped so much, campus is more expensive for some added positives, but also some negatives.

Not being able to bring people home on a whim, whether its someone you've scored or a friend that needs somewhere to stay, is a big inconvenience. You're very limited in what you can do with your room, in terms of decoration, which can be annoying, as what trinity provides is often quite cheap looking. Basically Trinity is the nosiest/strictest/most irritating landlord you could possibly have, and it never really feels like "your place".

I'd recommend keeping your eye on daft over the summer and finding a really nice, very central place, for less than Trinity charges you. You'll have much more freedom.

dusac

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

I didn't say they get free accommodation. They just get guarantees of an offer.

And sorry I got it wrong about the club captain thing. It is only the bigger clubs that get a room. I know swimming club captain gets one aswell. Sub-aqua too.

Club rooms and accommodation are not quite the same thing! What DUSAC has is an underground, unheated, windowless dive gear lockup full of damp neoprene suits. We still love it, though.

Dingle Ranger

Hey,

I've been offered accomodation on Pearse St.(48.2.)

I've heard Pearse St. isnt great. No Internet or something.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Jegger

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

Hey,

I've been offered accomodation on Pearse St.(48.2.)

I've heard Pearse St. isnt great. No Internet or something.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

That must mean round 2 offers are out. I have yet to receive an offer despite the fact that I`m 4th year, was rejected from halls in first year and originally from Ulster. The society involvement is BS in my mind, some of us are too busy working every evening after college to bother with societies and/or are simply not interested in what's on offer, because of this we aren't allowed to live on campus.

Dingle Ranger

JonGaffer wrote: »

That must mean round 2 offers are out. I have yet to receive an offer despite the fact that I`m 4th year, was rejected from halls in first year and originally from Ulster. The society involvement is BS in my mind, some of us are too busy working every evening after college to bother with societies and/or are simply not interested in what's on offer, because of this we aren't allowed to live on campus.

Thats completely ridiculous. The tiny fraction of non-4th years that do get campus are there because they do contribute to various aspects of college life. Just because you don't gain from their being there doesn't mean others dont.

gutenberg

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

Hey,

I've been offered accomodation on Pearse St.(48.2.)

I've heard Pearse St. isnt great. No Internet or something.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Pearse Street is fine.

There is internet (not wireless, you'll need an ethernet cable), and most (if not all?) of the rooms have their own bathrooms. The kitchen facilities are a bit poor, especially if you would like to cater for yourself; I'm a scholar, so I was only using the kitchen for breakfast/lunch most of the time, but for my needs it was adequate.

The rooms are smaller than the GMB for example, but they're not tiny, and there's tons of storage space. It's a quiet area of campus, near the health centre. Overall I really enjoyed living there.

Jegger

Dingle Ranger wrote: »

Thats completely ridiculous. The tiny fraction of non-4th years that do get campus are there because they do contribute to various aspects of college life. Just because you don't gain from their being there doesn't mean others dont.

That's an opinion. I`d just like to point out I never mentioned anything about how I have never benefited from societies. What I did say however was that I believe society involvement should not effect ones chance of securing campus accommodation. Surly exam results are more important that society involvement, why then do they not take results into account? What does society involvement have to do with apartments? What do results have to do with apartments? Nothing really. The entire system of accommodation allocation used by TCD is ridiculous. Accommodation should be given to final year students living the greatest distance from the college (of course not effecting accommodation for students with special needs).