2 Earthquakes Spain 4 dead

Two earthquakes hit Spain, one a 4.5 and the other 5.2. Town of Lorca, Murcia

4 people reportd dead. Lot of damage, quakes very shallow.


http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/muertos/terremoto/52/Lorca/Murcia/elpepuesp/20110511elpepunac_38/Tes

video here if any one speaks spanish.

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/espana-directo/se-derrumba-campanario-iglesia-lorca-tras-primer-terremoto/1098063/

red menace

Some details in English here
5 reported dead

http://earthquake-report.com/2011/05/11/moderate-earthquake-near-lorca-and-murcia-spain/

UPDATE 17:46 UTC : Although the 2005 earthquake around the same area caused 900 damaged houses, there were no deaths at that time. Unfortunately this time, the 2 heavily damaged buildings, and the falling cornices and roof tiles of other buildings have caused additional deaths/injuries.
UPDATE 17:43 UTC : There are reports from the local mayor that 5 people have died.
UPDATE 17:40 UTC : According to sources, it is possible that there are more deaths because there are two buildings that have suffered major damage to their structures. The Emergency Coordination Center has called in a bulletin to the media to move to the residents of Lorca’s recommendation not to use the lifts. There are thousands of people on the street not knowing what to do or where to go, and that the shaking has surprised everyone in the middle of their daily routine.
UPDATE 17:37 UTC : As confirmed by sources close to Europa Press, many buildings have been affected, such as the Belfry of the Church of San Diego, the roof of the asylum, the Torre del Castillo de Lorca Ram and a wall could have stopped someone trapped.
UPDATE 17:35 UTC : Among the material damage for the moment, there have been highlights the collapse of the roof at the nursing home Caser Lorca, who have been evacuated. (these data were already reported after the first shaking)
UPDATE 17:31 UTC : At least one person has died after the earthquakes in Lorca this afternoon. Apparently, according to sources consulted by this writing, a ledge could have fallen on the victim when she was walking down the
street. And after the first earthquake, there has been a new earthquake or shook her area of Lorca , this time with greater intensity of 5.2 degrees on the Richter scale, according to provisional data from the National Geological Institute , which returns to feel part of the Region of Murcia.
They have evacuated the area near the City Hall of this town and have more people affected.
UPDATE 17:26 UTC : CATDAT historic earthquakes in the same greater area.
1518 (37.2, -1.5) – There was a large earthquake that affected this exact region at this approximate epicenter, killing many people as reported by Montandon. (Intensity IX)
16 April 1907 (37.8, -1.5) – An intensity 7, M4.7 earthquake affected this region.
2 February 1999 – M5.2, Intensity VII (38.06,-1.54)- Twenty people injured in the Mula area. Buildings damaged (VII) at Mula and Puebla de Mula. Felt (VI) in the Archena-Bullas area; (V) in the Alhama de Murcia-Molina de Segura-Murcia area and at Abaran, Albatana, Cehegin, Cieza, Elche and Hornos;
29 January 2005 – M4.8, Intensity VII (37.8, -1.75) – At least 565 houses damaged (VI) at La Paca and Zarcilla de Ramos. Felt (V) at Aviles, Coy, La Fuensanta, La Hoya and Los Rios;

Lumbo

I think I read something in the Metro this morning (I'm always half asleep when reading it) that said people were staying away from work today because someone had predicted an earthquake.

I know Rome is Italy but it's a bit of a coincidence.

baalthor

Apparently lots of people left Rome today because 100 years ago a guy predicted there would be an earthquake in the city on 11 May 11.
Close ...

greendom

The El Pais report states that there are at least 7 dead - perhaps its been updated

danniemcq

italy quake stories
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=en_ie&as_qdr=h&as_drrb=q&cf=all&ncl=dmYbhbYPm9bQOOMniZPy7-GgdfvPM

Experts Calm Fears Over Quake Prediction

7 Comments

2:10pm UK, Wednesday May 11, 2011

Nick Pisa, Rome
Seismologists in Italy have been spending the day trying to calm fears that a major earthquake was due to hit the capital Rome.

A prediction made decades ago that a huge tremor would hit the Italian capital on 11th May 2011 has been blamed for hundreds of people taking the day off work.

Businesses reported requests from one in five people to have time off, and many were also keeping children away from school and heading to the beach or country for the day.

Romans have been talking of little else and local newspapers even published survival guides with tips of what to do if the ground starts to tremble.

With memories still vivid of March's tremor in Japan and an earthquake in the central Italian city of L'Aquila in 2009, which killed 300 people, it is not hard to see why so many people are taking it seriously.

The panic - which has been fanned by SMS, Facebook and Twitter - surrounds a forecast made by Raffaele Bendani in 1915 that a ''big one'' would hit Rome.

He is also said to have predicted other earthquakes which hit Italy during the last hundred years, before his death in 1979, and his words seemed to be having an effect on modern day Rome.

By midday, there had been 22 earthquakes, but none with the devastating effects predicted.

The number was described as "perfectly normal" for the country.

This aerial image taken on April 8, 2009 shows a general view of the village of San gregorio, some ten kilometers of the Abruzzo capital L'Aquila.

Damage to L'Aquila after the earthquake in 2009

However seismologists were quick to step in and say his theories were without any scientific proof.

Alessandro Amato, who works at Italy's Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology, said: ''It is not scientifically possible to predict the exact date that an earthquake will occur.''

Bendandi's claim has also been fuelled by memories of scientist Giampaolo Giuliani, who claimed that the earthquake in L'Aquila was on its way due to increased amounts of radon gas in the preceding days.

Bendandi believed movement of plates, and therefore earthquakes, were the result of the combined movements of the planets, the moon and the sun, and were perfectly predictable.

In 1923 he predicted a quake would hit the central Italy on January 2 the following year.

He was wrong by two days but Italy's main newspaper Corriere della Sera still ran a front page headline ''The man who forecasts earthquakes.''

For his work, Bendandi was even given a knighthood by Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini - and ordered not to make any more predictions on pain of exile as officials feared he would create immense panic.

spain stories
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=en_ie&as_qdr=h&as_drrb=q&cf=all&ncl=dkZk-vqyCkNyT-MHllGd0Gn_irnIM

Earthquake hits southern Spain, seven dead
A 5.1 magnitude earthquake has hit the town of Lorca in southern Spain, leaving a seven people dead and several medieval buildings collapsed.

The clock tower in Lorca has collapsed and several of the older buildings in the town centre have also crumbled.
A 5.1 magnitude earthquake has hit the town of Lorca in southern Spain, leaving a seven people dead and several medieval buildings collapsed.
Damaged cars in Lorca after the earthquake

The earthquake was felt across the Murcia region, including Cartagena, Aguilas, Murcia, Mazarrón, Albacete and Almería.

Spain's Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has deployed emergency military units to the scene, the Spanish EFE news agency reported.

Eyewitnesses that the tower of the church of Santiago was split in half.

Lorca Mayor Francisco Jodar told local radio the deaths were caused by falling debris and cave-ins.

The quake was registered at 6:47 pm (1647 GMT), following a smaller 4.4-magnitude quake at 5:05 pm (1505 GMT).

Spanish television showed rescue workers rushing through debris-littered streets. Thousands of residents of Lorca are in the streets, not knowing what to do.

The hospital, Rafael Méndez, has been evacuated, raising fears over how the injured will be treated.

Lorca has apopulation of around 91,000 people. Many British expatriates have homes in the Murcia region, which is close to the Costa Blanca.

danniemcq

i know i shouldn't laugh or make jokes but anyone think that scared Italians decided to wait out the Italy earthquake threat by seeing the sights in Spain?

Barna77

Just saw the video. Awful...

Barna77

10 dead now.

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

The Jedward Eurovision thread is that way ===>

No, that's considered crime against humanity.

had to laugh though

El Horseboxo

Most victims since one in 1956 12 in that one. .

http://www.adn.es/tecnologia/20110511/NWS-1751-Lorca-terremoto-victimas-causado.html


These are saying 10 dead.

http://www.abc.es/20110511/espana/abci-directo-lorca-terremoto-201105111842.html

I wasn't even aware mainland spain got earthquakes.

Barna77

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I wasn't even aware mainland spain got earthquakes.

Yep. SE Spain (ie, Murcia region, East Andalucia) gets them. They aren't very common and usually quite small.

I felt one years ago. It was weird the way the house moved.

danniemcq

El Horseboxo wrote: »

http://www.abc.es/20110511/espana/abci-directo-lorca-terremoto-201105111842.html

I wasn't even aware mainland spain got earthquakes.

not sure if there is a fault line there but earthquakes can happen anywhere in the world at any time look at the one we got in Donegal last year and the UK gets on average one a year.

they mainly happen at fault lines but not always AND some scientists are also now claiming that earthquakes actually cause the fault lines

El Horseboxo

danniemcq wrote: »

not sure if there is a fault line there but earthquakes can happen anywhere in the world at any time look at the one we got in Donegal last year and the UK gets on average one a year.

they mainly happen at fault lines but not always AND some scientists are also now claiming that earthquakes actually cause the fault lines

Sorry probably should have said i wasn't aware they get ones on that scale that can cause damage and deaths. Knew they can pretty much happen anywhere.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ypalM7eSBEQ/SdzT_ajylVI/AAAAAAAAAbM/XNB1-z6lvKg/s1600-h/tectonic_map.jpg

There's one running in between Spain and northern Africa. Not surprising actually considering how the Canaries were formed.

previous user

Shocking, truly shocking.

danniemcq

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Sorry probably should have said i wasn't aware they get ones on that scale that can cause damage and deaths. Knew they can pretty much happen anywhere.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ypalM7eSBEQ/SdzT_ajylVI/AAAAAAAAAbM/XNB1-z6lvKg/s1600-h/tectonic_map.jpg

There's one running in between Spain and northern Africa. Not surprising actually considering how the Canaries were formed.

ahhhhhhh get ya now!

Duckworth_Luas

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Sorry probably should have said i wasn't aware they get ones on that scale that can cause damage and deaths. Knew they can pretty much happen anywhere.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ypalM7eSBEQ/SdzT_ajylVI/AAAAAAAAAbM/XNB1-z6lvKg/s1600-h/tectonic_map.jpg

There's one running in between Spain and northern Africa. Not surprising actually considering how the Canaries were formed.

Lisbon was destroyed by an earthquake and following tusanmi back in the 1700s. Fault line runs through the Straits of Gibralter.

Derfil

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Lisbon was destroyed by an earthquake and following tusanmi back in the 1700s. Fault line runs through the Straits of Gibralter.

Think parts of Cork and Kerry were hit by that tsunami.

dr.bollocko

mod:
Nein11 for dumb tasteless jokes.
Thunderdome for abuse.
Feedback for handwringing about what is and isn't allowed in AH.
No more of any of that crap from here on out.

mayotom

The death toll has now risen to Seven, lets hope there are not too many more

Seven dead after Spanish Quake: CNN

greendom

mayotom wrote: »

The death toll has now risen to Seven, lets hope there are not too many more

Seven dead after Spanish Quake: CNN

Keep up - El Pais is reporting at least 10

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/terremotos/sacuden/Lorca/causan/muertos/elpepuesp/20110511elpepunac_38/Tes

peanuthead

Terrible news, heading to Spain in a months time and will be going to Murcia too. Hope there aren't any more!

In that video the entire bell tower of the church in Lorca is gone.

biko

Death toll now 10 but will rise I'm sure.
Terrible, never in a million years would I have thought it could happen there.

Lone Stone

Was just checking on my friends in spain their, told 10 people are dead and it was in southern spain.

Caoimhín

Tis de end of de world i tells ye!

greendom

Lone Stone wrote: »

Was just checking on my friends in spain their, told 10 people are dead and it was in southern spain.

Murcia - South Eastern Spain

Caoimhín

biko wrote: »

Death toll now 10 but will rise I'm sure.
Terrible, never in a million years would I have thought it could happen there.

Eh? It can happen anywhere within a radius of a tectonic plate interface..

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://nadine.helmholtz-eos.de/media/image/page/risks/earthquake/info/system/Plattentektonik__Euras_Platte.gif&imgrefurl=http://nadine.helmholtz-eos.de/risks/earthquake/info/eq_system_en.html&usg=__5JrRg2aRKGbQeQsLnSyrkmVwBNA=&h=420&w=572&sz=95&hl=en&start=0&sig2=c7Jk3T-nRLG6ucfto3a4dQ&zoom=1&tbnid=k5qc17Vj8eZKyM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=176&ei=jffKTaf4Co-whAen0o2qAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtectonic%2Bplates%2Beurope%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1920%26bih%3D955%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=398&page=1&ndsp=61&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0&tx=112&ty=68

greendom

Back down to eight now

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/terremotos/sacuden/Lorca/causan/muertos/elpepuesp/20110511elpepunac_38/Tes

jimmynokia

This could be a direct result of the Japan quake there was a programme on discovery there a while back explaining the predictions and looks like they where right so more can be expected,still bad news for the Spanish though.

Barna77

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13368657

mayotom

Barna77 wrote: »

Yep. SE Spain (ie, Murcia region, East Andalucia) gets them. They aren't very common and usually quite small.

I felt one years ago. It was weird the way the house moved.

The 6.2 one in the Algarve in December 2009 woke me up, the whole place was shaking neighbours were screaming, that was 35km deep, this one today was only 1km deep it must have been scary. There are records of several major quakes throughout Murcia and Andalucia over the past 3 centuries, events which had a profound effect on life in those regions, evidence of this can be found all over the place

HalloweenJack

Pretty sure there was one in Granada, not far from Murcia, within the last year or so. It was a 5-point-something but didn't do much damage at all. Earthquakes are not uncommon in Southern Spain.

mayotom

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Pretty sure there was one in Granada, not far from Murcia, within the last year or so. It was a 5-point-something but didn't do much damage at all. Earthquakes are not uncommon in Southern Spain.

yes the Granada Quake last month was measured at 6.2 on the richter scale, but was over 600km deep, therefore the earth absorbed most of the shaking, the one in Lorca was between 1 and 5 km deep which is unusually shallow the Christchurch quake earlier this year was 25km deep