What day is Elizabeth visiting

Unregistered.

And what are the arrangements for us normal folk who just want to drop in and say hello?

andrew

The College is pleased to announce the visit of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II and His Royal Highness, the Duke of Edinburgh to the College on Tuesday 17 May 2011.

Hosting this visit will of necessity require certain arrangements to be put in place to ensure its smooth running. These arrangements will cause a certain amount of disruption to the operation of the College in the days leading up to the visit and on 17 May itself and I am grateful to all concerned for their cooperation and goodwill.

For the purposes of providing the necessary information below the College Campus is divided into a Red Zone and an Orange Zone as outlined in the attached map.

This email is intended to provide necessary information on the arrangements from 14-17 May inclusive and you are invited to consult www.tcd.ie/secretary/qv for more details. This website will be up-dated on an on-going basis and staff cleared to work in the Red Zone and those in attendance at the Royal visit will receive separate communications later this week.

I apologise for the length of the email and hope that you find it useful.

Anne FitzGerald
Secretary to the College

1. Closure Details

The College will be closed to the public from 18.00 on Saturday 14 May 2011 until 17.30 on Tuesday 17 May 2011. No restrictions will apply before 18.00 on 14 May.

From 18.00 on Saturday 14 May the area delineated as the Red Zone on the attached map will not be accessible to members of the College community apart from:
· Staff previously cleared to work in the Red Zone
· Students in residence in the Red Zone
· Students and staff attending Examinations in the Red Zone on Monday 16 May
· Invigilators and members of the academic staff required to be present at Examinations in the Red Zone on Monday 16 May
· Staff and students availing of the Buttery Hall on 16 May - see Point 5 below.

2. Access arrangements for staff and students from 18.00 Saturday 14 May to 17.30 Tuesday 17 May

Orange Zone
All staff and students may access College via Lincoln Place Gate on presentation of a College ID Card. All staff and students may move freely throughout the Orange Zone during this period.

Opening Hours Lincoln Place Gate
Saturday 14 May – 08.00 – 18.00 – no restrictions apply

At the following times access is only available on presentation of a College ID card:
Saturday 14 May – 18.00 – 23.59
Sunday 15th May – 08.00– 23.59
Monday 16 May – 05.00– 23.59
Tuesday 17 May – 05.00 – 17.30

Tuesday 17 May – 17.30 – 23.59 – no restrictions apply

Red Zone
Saturday 14 May from 18.00 to Monday 16 May 23.59 Staff members who have been previously security cleared to work in the Red Zone must enter via the Nassau Street Gate or from the Orange Zone via the Security Checkpoint at House 27.

Tuesday 17 May from 07.00 to 17.30 Staff members who have been previously security cleared to work in the Red Zone must enter via the Nassau St Gate.

Opening Hours Nassau Street Gate

Saturday 14 May – 08.00 – 18.00 – no restrictions apply

During the following times access via Nassau Street Gate is only available to those cleared to work in the Red Zone on presentation of a College ID card:
Saturday 14 May – 18.00 – 23.59
Sunday 15 May – 07.00– 23.59
Monday 16 May – 07.00– 23.59
Tuesday 17 May – 07.00 – 17.30

Tuesday 17 May – 17.30 – 22.00 – no restrictions apply

3. Curtailed services

Due to the enforced closure of office locations in the Red Zone from 18.00 on Saturday 14 May to start of business on Wednesday 18 May these areas will be offering a curtailed service. Details of these services with relevant contact details will be published on the individual areas’ websites over the coming week. See also www.tcd.ie/secretary/qv.

4. Tutorial Service and Postgraduate Advisory Service:



House 27 will be closed on 16 and 17 of May. If you need to call in, please go to the 3rd floor, 7-9 South Leinster Street (Near the National Gallery).



The Service will also be contactable by telephone and e-mail using the usual contact details (01 896 2551/1095/2004/1417 and stosec@tcd.ie, senior.tutor@tcd.ie, helen.richardson@tcd.ie or Pgsupp@tcd.ie).



Additionally, you can reach the Service on 087 662 9088 or 087 121 0287.



Tutors based in the Red Zone (Arts Building and Front Square) will contact their tutees directly to advise them of how best to contact them. All other tutors will be contactable in the normal way.


5. Catering arrangements

Monday 16 May

Red Zone
Buttery open from 08.00 until 14.30

Staff and Students located in the Orange Zone may avail of catering facilities in the Buttery on Monday 16 May by accessing the Red Zone via the House 27 Security Checkpoint. A College ID Card must be presented at the Security Checkpoint at House 27.

Orange Zone
Hamilton Restaurant will be open from 08.00 to 16.00

The following areas will remain closed that day
· 1592 Restaurant
· East Dining Hall
· Arts Cafe
Commons will not take place

The Pavilion Bar will also be open and serving food as per its normal schedule.

Tuesday 17 May

Red Zone
· The Arts Cafe will open from 10.00 to 12.00 to facilitate staff working in the Red Zone
· 1592, East Dining Hall, Buttery will remain closed
· Commons will not take place

Orange Zone
Hamilton Restaurant and Westland Cafe will remain open from 08.00 until 16.00

The Pavilion Bar will also be open and serving food as per its normal schedule.

6. Residents

Front Gate will operate as usual from 23.59 to 07.00 on Saturday 14, Sunday 15 and Monday 16 May to facilitate access for residents on presentation of a College ID Card.

The Accommodation Office will issue a separate email with details of arrangements for 17 May specific to residents in the Red Zone and residents in the Orange Zone.

7. College Examinations

Emails to students and staff involved in College examination setting out access and other arrangements associated with examinations scheduled for the 16 May in the Red and Orange Zones and covering examinations scheduled for the Orange Zone on Tuesday 17 May will be sent directly to those concerned by the Examinations Office.

8. Car Parking (See Map)

There will be NO CAR PARKING facilities available in the Red Zone from 18.00 on Saturday 14 May until 17.30 on Tuesday 17 May.

All cars must be removed from the Red Zone before 18.00 on 14 May.

Reduced parking facilities are available for Permit Holders in the Orange Zone during this period – see map.

The College has negotiated a concessionary fee of €6 per day from Sunday 15 May to Tuesday 17 May inclusive in the Parkrite Car Park in Fleet Street. College staff and students wishing to use this facility may avail of this offer by presenting a copy of this email and their College ID card to the Parkrite attendant.


Those intending to avail of College car parking and/or the Parkrite services are advised to check on the traffic restrictions in place in the city and in the precincts of the College between 17 May and 19 May (inclusive) – see Garda website, newspapers, etc.

9. Motor Bike and Bicycle Parking (See Map)
There will be no motor bike or bicycle parking facilities available in the Red Zone during the period 18.00 on Saturday 14 May to 17.30 on Tuesday 17 May.

Normal parking facilities will be available in the Orange Zone apart from the areas highlighted on the attached map.

10. Sports Centre
The operations of the Sports Centre will be subject to the same access restrictions as outlined in Point 2 above.

During the period 18.00 on Saturday 14 May to 17.30 on Tuesday 17 May, access to College Park will be restricted to College staff and students. Visiting teams comprising graduates or members of the public will not have access to College Park during this period.

Sporting facilities in Botany Bay will be closed from 18.00 on Saturday 14 May to 17.30 on Tuesday 17 May.


For further information please consult the website www.tcd.ie/secretary/qv which will be updated on an ongoing basis as new information comes available.

Unregistered.

tl;dr

What are the arrangements for members of the public?

blubloblu

Unregistered. wrote: »

tl;dr

What are the arrangements for members of the public?

College is closed to public in between the times shown in that message.

ApeXaviour

and even students can't get to see her unless they've been garda vetted and had their photo taken for a security badge already.

andrew

How did students even apply to see her? Seems it was all done very quietly

Sir Ophiuchus

andrew wrote: »

How did students even apply to see her? Seems it was all done very quietly

There's an opportunity for students to see her? Certainly not the impression I got.

Unregistered.

So basically, nobody is allowed to be within earshot of the queen.

Groinshot

Unregistered. wrote: »

So basically, nobody is allowed to be within earshot of the queen.

Definately not. Hearing range maybe, but not earshot

How else would it have been? She's the queen of England. I hear she also carries some weight in Wales...

It's not like they were going to set up a thousand tea sets and let anyone who wants have a cup of tea with her.

hartnett_mark

hey, who cares?? I can see her in TV and it will be the same thing...

Unregistered.

Groinshot wrote: »

Definately not. Hearing range maybe, but not earshot

Wouldn't want anybody shooting shouting mean and nasty things at her.

amacachi

true-or-false wrote: »

How else would it have been? She's the queen of England. I hear she also carries some weight in Wales...

It's not like they were going to set up a thousand tea sets and let anyone who wants have a cup of tea with her.

They could've penned us in and had her walk between all of us and then doled out little Union Jack flags.

andrew

Sir Ophiuchus wrote: »

There's an opportunity for students to see her? Certainly not the impression I got.

I heard there was, but that it was either done informally, or quietly.

Groinshot

I hope she looks like a banana again

PurpleFistMixer

No commons on Monday or Tuesday, forcibly ejected from my apartment between 9am and 5pm on Tuesday, and I have to wear a wristband for the entire weekend?

If I didn't already dislike the queen, I certainly do now. Grump grump grump.

amacachi

amacachi wrote: »

They could've penned us in and had her walk between all of us and then doled out little Union Jack flags.

I get tingles just thinking about how exciting that would have been.

Not sure they would have let me in with my balaclava though. It's like my comfort blanket. That and the psychological disorder that makes me spontaneously shout, "up the RA!", would have made me stand out in the crowd a bit. Think I'll just stay home and do something vaguely interesting with my day.

dabh

Maybe the Library should have revisited their decision of a few years ago, and arranged a special exhibition of the Book of Kells for a few days in the Kells Heritage Centre? The State could surely have provided an adequate level of security for a few days, sufficient to ensure its safe return.

ApeXaviour

andrew wrote: »

How did students even apply to see her? Seems it was all done very quietly

Informally as you suggested, by invitation about a month ago. I believe the college instructed that no information be put up on the internet about it (while it was ongoing).

edit: people attending as part of the greeting party aren't allowed any personal belongings while standing around as they walk by, no mobile phones etc. Have to bring a 2 IDs (college and eg passport) in order to get your security badge, which already has your photo on it.

electrogrimey

Anyone know where she's going for the rest of her visit? Have an exam on the Wednesday, and want to know where the riots will be so I can avoid them. If that Amien street bomb is anything to go buy, this could be like the O'Connell Street riots a few years ago.

The Black Oil

How the library is affected.

antiselfdual

So as an interesting comparison she visited my college in the UK a few weeks back for a garden party - the college was shut off to visitors for just a morning and afternoon and I think student access was mostly unrestricted, to get in to the garden party I just needed to show a college id, no security badges/wristbands etc, though most of us riff-raff were expected to remain on the other side of a path from the Queen at all times when she was present. All in all much less crazily restrictive than what I've heard about TCD...

In any case it was a good garden party, the Queen ended up cutting a cake and being presented with a potted plant (I have no idea why) before being driven off in an ostentatious car a distance of about two hundreds metres to a helicopter...

oharach

antiselfdual wrote: »

So as an interesting comparison she visited my college in the UK a few weeks back for a garden party - the college was shut off to visitors for just a morning and afternoon and I think student access was mostly unrestricted, to get in to the garden party I just needed to show a college id, no security badges/wristbands etc, though most of us riff-raff were expected to remain on the other side of a path from the Queen at all times when she was present. All in all much less crazily restrictive than what I've heard about TCD...

In any case it was a good garden party, the Queen ended up cutting a cake and being presented with a potted plant (I have no idea why) before being driven off in an ostentatious car a distance of about two hundreds metres to a helicopter...

But there were snipers situated in several places on the roof according to the 'Tab. I'd expect similar in Trinity.

antiselfdual

Yeah I forgot to mention them. But still they managed to put snipers on some roofs without shutting most of the college down for days. Just funny/troubling seeing the different levels of security they feel is needed.

Aoiferz

Can't wait to try and get in to college on tuesday for my exam amid Garda spot searches and questions. :mad:

andrew

Aoiferz wrote: »

Can't wait to try and get in to college on tuesday for my exam amid Garda spot searches and questions. :mad:

What are you here for?

..An exam

What exam

Uhh...econometrics

Alright so, what are the implications for OLS when heteroskedasticity is present?

uhh...it's...well SHI]T

blubloblu

antiselfdual wrote: »

Yeah I forgot to mention them. But still they managed to put snipers on some roofs without shutting most of the college down for days. Just funny/troubling seeing the different levels of security they feel is needed.

Slightly higher threat level in Dublin than in Cambridge.

REPSOC1916

Anyone got exams in the Red zone. Have two on Monday and Wednesday.

I'm wearing my Easter Lily for both occasions.

antiselfdual

blubloblu wrote: »

Slightly higher threat level in Dublin than in Cambridge.

Yes yes that was the troubling bit, not used to thinking of my old university/capital city as a potential location for bombings etc. etc. and I thought the disparity between the two places I've lived was worth introducing considering how similar things are superficially. Anyway.

Tears in Rain

blubloblu wrote: »

Slightly higher threat level in Dublin than in Cambridge.

In this day and age though? Really?

andrew

Tears in Rain wrote: »

In this day and age though? Really?

The orange marchers tried to march a few years ago and there was a full scale riot. So yep, people who hate Britain and the Queen with a firey passion do still exist. spas.

REPSOC1916

andrew wrote: »

The orange marchers tried to march a few years ago and there was a full scale riot. So yep, people who hate Britain and the Queen with a firey passion do still exist. spas.

Firstly that march had nothing to do with the Orange Order - it was a Love Ulster parade organized by a man known as Willie Frazer who is head of a campaigns group called FAIR. Both are rather interesting groups. For a start FAIR recently had it's funding withdrawn from the E.U. due to what it described as "major failures in the organisation's ability to adhere to the conditions associated with its funding allocation". FAIR have also been criticized for solely representing the victims of Republican violence - it has never campaigned for victims of either loyalist paramilitaries or british state security. Frazer is another interesting fellow. In addition to having links with the Ku Klux Klan, he has ran on a number of occassions for a number of fringe loyalist groups and was refused a gun license because he was known to associate with loyalist paramilitaries.

Think it might be important to be in full possession of the facts, especially given the fact that you're a moderator.

Secondly the vast majority of people who rioted were not there for political reasons. It was mainly vandalism or petty theft. Also mischaracterizing people who don't agree with your political viewpoint and referring to them as "spas" does not reflect well on you.

amacachi

Isn't Willie going to be bringing a few busloads down to see her? Should be fun. Sigh.

ApeXaviour

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

Think it might be important to be in full possession of the facts, especially given the fact that you're a moderator.

Not a moderator of this forum though. No power to abuse, so no responsibility to remain somewhat impartial in the more controversial topics, anymore than any other regular poster.

Also, as you suggest the rioting was mostly conducted by vandals and petty thieves... it couldn't be much of a stretch to call them "spas". They likely hate britain and the queen too.

andrew

REPSOC1916 wrote: »

Firstly that march had nothing to do with the Orange Order - it was a Love Ulster parade organized by a man known as Willie Frazer who is head of a campaigns group called FAIR. Both are rather interesting groups. For a start FAIR recently had it's funding withdrawn from the E.U. due to what it described as "major failures in the organisation's ability to adhere to the conditions associated with its funding allocation". FAIR have also been criticized for solely representing the victims of Republican violence - it has never campaigned for victims of either loyalist paramilitaries or british state security. Frazer is another interesting fellow. In addition to having links with the Ku Klux Klan, he has ran on a number of occassions for a number of fringe loyalist groups and was refused a gun license because he was known to associate with loyalist paramilitaries.

My point was that, regardless of what the march was (I didn't know it wasn't an orange march/orange order affiliated) there are still enough people around who dislike Britain that there's a threat to the queen. The response to the love Ulster parade is an example of the kind of hate that some people have toward Britain. For sure, not every anti-British person is like that, but at least some are, hence the threat. I'm not going to debate about whether the Love Ulster march was a good/bad thing, suffice to say I don't think there should have been a counter demo such that it was unable to take place.

Think it might be important to be in full possession of the facts, especially given the fact that you're a moderator.

I mod the economics forum. Elsewhere I'm a regular user.

Secondly the vast majority of people who rioted were not there for political reasons. It was mainly vandalism or petty theft. Also mischaracterizing people who don't agree with your political viewpoint and referring to them as "spas" does not reflect well on you.

I think hardcore nationalists in general, hardcore Republicans included, are spas. If that doesn't reflect well on me amongst said hardcore nationalists, I won't be losing any sleep over it.

Unregistered.

In fairness, you did say people who hate Britain are spas. I hate mushrooms. Am I a spa?

andrew

Unregistered. wrote: »

In fairness, you did say people who hate Britain are spas. I hate mushrooms. Am I a spa?

No, they're not spas because they hate something, they're spas because they hate Britain specifically.

Unregistered.

andrew wrote: »

No, they're not spas because they hate something, they're spas because they hate Britain specifically.

What makes Britain the exception? Why am I not a spa?

andrew

Unregistered. wrote: »

What makes Britain the exception? Why am I not a spa?

Don't get me wrong, I think hate is a valid emotion. Because Mushrooms don't taste very nice, I think it's legit to hate them. On the other hand, I don't think there's a legit reason to hate an entire nation such as Britain. I'd love to hear one.

Unregistered.

andrew wrote: »

Because Mushrooms don't taste very nice, and so I think it's legit to not like them. On the other hand, I don't think there's a legit reason to hate an entire nation such as Britain.

Some people do have reasons I guess? Even still, irrational hate of anything isn't uncommon. I don't think specifically targeting people who hate Britain and calling them spas is very nice .

andrew

Unregistered. wrote: »

Some people do have reasons I guess? Even still, irrational hate of anything isn't uncommon. I don't think specifically targeting people who hate Britain and calling them spas is very nice .

I don't think anyone has a legit reason to hate Britain. And irrational hate may not be uncommon, but that doesn't justify it. I agree calling people spas isn't nice; that's why I reserve it for people who I actually think are spas.

REPSOC1916

andrew wrote: »

I think hardcore nationalists in general, hardcore Republicans included, are spas. If that doesn't reflect well on me amongst said hardcore nationalists, I won't be losing any sleep over it.

I really doubt you know any republicans.

ApeXaviour wrote: »

Not a moderator of this forum though. No power to abuse, so no responsibility to remain somewhat impartial in the more controversial topics, anymore than any other regular poster.

My apologies for that mistake.

The Black Oil

Excuse my ignorance, which one is the Lincoln Gate entrance?

Not sure about going in this week. Graduate reader's card and ID from where I'm studying now (out foreign) probably won't suffice.

Mark200

The Black Oil wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, which one is the Lincoln Gate entrance?

Not sure about going in this week. Graduate reader's card and ID from where I'm studying now (out foreign) probably won't suffice.

The little road between Nassau Street and Westland Row
http://www.tcd.ie/Maps/map.php

Larianne

Is the Sports Centre open tomorrow? It looks like it is to Staff and Students only from the website, but I'm not sure??

cm2000

Is the library open tomorrow?

Mark200

cm2000 wrote: »

Is the library open tomorrow?

Yes

zam

I HATE YOU LIZ, such an ordeal to leave college today. This may seem like a petty thing to be peeved about but still, having to spend at least half an hour on a round trip from the BLU to get a coffee is not amusing.

andrew

I assure, The Worlds smallest violin is playing the worlds saddest song, just for you

lucernarian

andrew wrote: »

I assure, The Worlds smallest violin is playing the worlds saddest song, just for you

:rolleyes:

zam

andrew wrote: »

I assure, The Worlds smallest violin is playing the worlds saddest song, just for you

*World's.

...YEAH.