Why do people insist on seeing conspiracy/contraversy in everything?

AudreyHepburn

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It is obvious that there are some people who will point blank refuse to accept anything offical sources tell them and I'm wondering why?

Why is so hard to believe Bin Laden was killed by American Special Forces, that Madeleine was abducted etc?

Why does everything have to be shrouded in conspiracy and contraversy?

Micky Dolenz

Depends, why you asking?

Biggins

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It is obvious that there are some people who will point blank refuse to accept anything offical sources tell them and I'm wondering why?

Why is so hard to believe Bin Laden was killed by American Special Forces, that Madeleine was abducted etc?

Why does everything have to be shrouded in conspiracy and contraversy?

...Because the fact is people lie - and we accept a negative more quicker generally than a positive.

AudreyHepburn

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Depends, why you asking?

Just curious really. Why does it matter?

mikemac

I believed our Minister for Finance when he went on the news and strongly denied there were negotiations for a bailout. I mean, why would he lie?
What a fool I was :rolleyes:

People in authority blatantly lie so even when they tell the truth, people will question it

El Weirdo

It's your duty as a human being to always question what you are being told by "official" sources.

ScumLord

Precedent?

Micky Dolenz

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Just curious really. Why does it matter?

Because for all we know you could be doing secret research type survey things for a foreign government or worse, our own government.

I'm watching you.

AudreyHepburn

Biggins wrote: »

...Because the fact is people lie - and we accept a negative more quicker generally than a positive.

That's true yes. I suppose it's just that I am rarely convinced by such theories myself because the evidence doesn't stack up so wonder why so many are.

Not a critique, just genuine curiosity.

Wolfe Tone

People want the truth

Cork boy 55

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It is obvious that there are some people who will point blank refuse to accept anything offical sources tell them and I'm wondering why?

Why is so hard to believe Bin Laden was killed by American Special Forces, that Madeleine was abducted etc?

Why does everything have to be shrouded in conspiracy and contraversy?

Doubleplusgood thread

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It is obvious that there are some people who will point blank refuse to accept anything offical sources tell them and I'm wondering why?

Why is so hard to believe Bin Laden was killed by American Special Forces, that Madeleine was abducted etc?

Why does everything have to be shrouded in conspiracy and contraversy?

Because a lot of people are capable of independent thought and don't believe everything that they read. feelingstressed gave you a good example, there are tons more.

steve9859

El Weirdo wrote: »

It's your duty as a human being to always question what you are being told by "official" sources.

Questioning what we are told is fine. It is our responsibility in the world of new media to pick the wheat from the chaff. But conspiracy theorists choose to disbelieve absolutely everything they hear and assume everything is a lie. That is just as brainless as believing everything

Badgermonkey

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

People want the truth

You can't handle the truth.

Quoting Jack Nicholson of course.

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

Because a lot of people are capable of independent thought and don't believe everything that they read. feelingstressed gave you a good example, there are tons more.

I don't think it's that simple tbh.

Just because I, for instance, believe Madeleine was abducted does not mean I can't think for myself, it just means that for me the evidence points to that senario.

Scuid Mhór

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It is obvious that there are some people who will point blank refuse to accept anything offical sources tell them and I'm wondering why?

Why is so hard to believe Bin Laden was killed by American Special Forces, that Madeleine was abducted etc?

Why does everything have to be shrouded in conspiracy and contraversy?

Our brains are programmed to notice patterns - when they notice one thing that doesn't make sense, our brains will look for more. It builds up.

Look, take a walk outside and concentrate on the number four. The amount of things relating to four you will find is astonishing. Same would happen if you went out looking for three or five or whatever. There's probably a Wikipedia page for the phenomenon but I'm too lazy to find it, sorry.

Throughout modern history, there's been countless cover-ups exposed.. As someone else said, it's precedent.

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I don't think it's that simple tbh.

Just because I, for instance, believe Madeleine was abducted does not mean I can't think for myself, it just means that for me the evidence points to that senario.

OK, I have a question for you...where is my location?

AudreyHepburn

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

People want the truth

But why assume you are not getting it?

El Weirdo wrote: »

It's your duty as a human being to always question what you are being told by "official" sources.

I agree but there's difference between questioning and making things up/twisting facts etc.

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

OK, I have a question for you...where is my location?

NYC according to boards, but I guess you could be anywhere.

Why?

K-9

Well with politics I think it is right to have a healthy, constructive cynicism. I wouldn't be one for ranting and conspiracy theories though, would try and see both sides.

With Maddy, the case hasn't been solved and there doesn't seem to be strong evidence that she was abducted, there is no official explanation.

Wolfe Tone

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

But why assume you are not getting it?

Because we have been constantly lied to by governments the world over, time and time again.

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

NYC according to boards, but I guess you could be anywhere.

Why?

You "guess" it could be anywhere? Why don't you believe me that its NYC since I have NYC as my location? (not getting at you or anything)

Micky Dolenz

TheZohan wrote: »

OK, I have a question for you...where is my location?

Oh oh oh *raises hand*

I know the answer to this one :P

greendom

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

It is obvious that there are some people who will point blank refuse to accept anything offical sources tell them and I'm wondering why?

Why is so hard to believe Bin Laden was killed by American Special Forces, that Madeleine was abducted etc?

Why does everything have to be shrouded in conspiracy and contraversy?

Geez Madeline Mcann was abducted by Osama Bin Laden ? You learn something every day.

AudreyHepburn

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

But why assume you are not getting it?



I agree but there's difference between questioning and making things up/twisting facts etc.

We're talking about Osama Bin Laden here yea? You mentioned him in your OP..
I think it's only natural we are skeptical of the truth being told about him considering the very valid and quite frankly, annoyingly believable conspiracy theories regarding 9/11.

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

You "guess" it could be anywhere? Why don't you believe me that its NYC since I have NYC as my location? (not getting at you or anything)

I didn't say I didn't believe you Zohan.

I just didn't understand why you were asking the question, still don't tbh....unless to try to catch me out.

ejmaztec

I'm get very suspicious when I see threads started by dead actresses.

chin_grin

I love this wallpaper.

AudreyHepburn

Deleted User wrote: »

We're talking about Osama Bin Laden here yea? You mentioned him in your OP..
I think it's only natural we are skeptical of the truth being told about him considering the very valid and quite frankly, annoyingly believable conspiracy theories regarding 9/11.

Well I just used him as an example really. I have my own opinions on that which are that he died as was reported, but I don't want an argument to start.

18AD

Let's face it, conspiracy theories are far more interesting then the real story. If the real story is that interesting you're rarely going to hear about it until far after the fact.

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I didn't say I didn't believe you Zohan.

I just didn't understand why you were asking the question, still don't tbh....unless to try to catch me out.

I was making a point, sometimes people don't believe stuff even after they read it.

I have down NYC as my location, why would I lie? Yet you said you "guess" I could be anywhere.

Wasn't trying to catch you out, just showing you that people can be sceptical, it's human nature. For the record, yup I'm in NYC.

stupidusername

As long as people have reasons to lie people will question things. Tbh i'd be more bothered about the people who dont question anything. I'm not a conspiracy theorist I just feel some things sound off sometimes.

My name is URL

Why do people insist on seeing conspiracy/contraversy in everything?

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I ask this after reading and posting in threads about Madeleine McCann's disappearence and the death of Osama Bin Laden.

That's not everything.. it's only two things.. both of which should arouse some degree of scepticism in a rational mind.

Why should people point-blank accept everything they are told?

smokedeels

If there was some grand worldwide conspiracy somebody involved would have left documents containing all the information on a train.

TeddyTedson

It wouldn't surprise me if the OP was a government plant to try and manipulate people in to believing everything governments tell us.
I don't see why an ordinary citizen would be expressing such a view. We all no there is more to the Bin Laden story. Do you really think we're all a bunch of sheep who are going to just say baaaah baaaah to everything?
Now tell us where are Biggie and Tupac:P

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

I was making a point, sometimes people don't believe stuff even after they read it.

I have down NYC as my location, why would I lie? Yet you said you "guess" I could be anywhere.

Wasn't trying to catch you out, just showing you that people can be sceptical, it's human nature. For the record, yup I'm in NYC.

I believe you! I just wasn't sure what way the question was going that's all.

I love NYC by the way!

AudreyHepburn

TeddyTedson wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me if the OP was a government plant to try and manipulate people in to believing everything governments tell us.
I don't see why an ordinary citizen would be expressing such a view. We all no there is more to the Bin Laden story. Do you really think we're all a bunch of sheep who are going to just say baaaah baaaah to everything?
Now tell us where are Biggie and Tupac:P

I am just asking a question out of genuine curiosity. The thread is meant to be a criticism or anything.

Apologies if my intent isn't clear, I am just curious!

Micky Dolenz

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I am just asking a question out of genuine curiosity. The thread is meant to be a criticism or anything.

Apologies if my intent isn't clear, I am just curious!

You seem to be using the word curious a lot.

You have heard the story about the curious cat, haven't you?

<_< <_<
>_> >_>

AudreyHepburn

My name is URL wrote: »

That's not everything.. it's only two things.. both of which should arouse some degree of scepticism in a rational mind.

Why should people point-blank accept everything they are told?

Not saying they should, there are just some people who won't believe anything they are told, rightly or wrongly and I am just interested to see why.

Look I really am not out to start an argument or get people, genuinely I am not.

AudreyHepburn

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

You seem to be using the word curious a lot.

You have heard the story about the curious cat, haven't you?

<_< <_<
>_> >_>

Yes, so what?

Micky Dolenz

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Yes, so what?

You ask a lot of questions. You sure you don't work for the man?

AudreyHepburn

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

You ask a lot of questions. You sure you don't work for the man?

lol!

Scuid Mhór

18AD wrote: »

Let's face it, conspiracy theories are far more interesting then the real story. If the real story is that interesting you're rarely going to hear about it until far after the fact.

I REALLY like the way AudreyHepburn thanked this post. Really sums up the thread.

AudreyHepburn

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I REALLY like the way AudreyHepburn thanked this post. Really sums up the thread.

Meaning?

I make a point of thanking answers to threads if they are reasonable, interesting etc.

I agree that CT being more interesting certainly is a big factor.

StudentDad

Ferengi Rule of Acquisition number 190 - 'Hear everything, trust nothing.'

SD

CrackisWhack

I doubt there's people out there that question everything, theres alot of hidden agendas out there and its good that people question it.

My name is URL

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Not saying they should, there are just some people who won't believe anything they are told, rightly or wrongly and I am just interested to see why.

Look I really am not out to start an argument or get people, genuinely I am not.

Fair enough. I guess you're referring to what people might call 'conspiracy theorists'.. the more hardcore of which have some sort of paranoid notion about how the world is out to make their lives more difficult.

My thinking is that those people have been failed in various ways by the system we live in, and they try to project their own experiences and failings onto how the world is run as a whole, in order to make sense of it all. If they see the world in such a way then it's fairly understandable that they are selective in what they choose to believe.

sock puppet

CrackisWhack wrote: »

I doubt there's people out there that question everything, theres alot of hidden agendas out there and its good that people question it.

Yes. Unfortunately there are also a lot of people telling the truth who are targeted and slandered by people with hidden agendas. Conspiracy theorists don't seem to be able to tell the difference between the two.

RussellTuring

In addition to the points already raised, I think it's also down to people often preferring to believe that bad things happen because someone or something planned it than to think that the world is just a place where many things are a matter of chance and therefore unfortunate things sometimes happen.

greendom

RussellTuring wrote: »

In addition to the points already raised, I think it's also down to people often preferring to believe that bad things happen because someone or something planned it than to think that the world is just a place where many things are a matter of chance and therefore unfortunate things sometimes happen.

Yes to a degree, conspiracy theories are filling the gap vacated by religion in society.