Stagate Universe (2x20) Gauntlet **SPOILERS**

Conor108

This is the end, my only friend the end.......

I'm deva this will probably be the last new SG episode until some hot-shot TV exec greenlights some re-imagining in 10-20 years a lá BSG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY84wAid-5I

Damn you Syfy

EDIT: Haven't watched it yet, exams ugh, but poll added sorry about that!

Antar Bolaeisk

Dammit, I was going to start a thread with that exact same generic tagline :mad:

My poll options would have been better though

I can't wait for this episode but at the same time I don't want Stargate to be over.

Edit: Apparently we should watch "Air" again as something in the finale ties back to the beginning, I wonder what it is.

docdolittle

I would of thought this would be the song people thought of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2hYDIFDIU

Only a few hours till the end now

Br4tPr1nc3

that episode was the biggest load of my gee i have seen in a long time.
and it was no end to any show!

absolute rubbish.....

busyliving

I think it was a great episode, because it allows for another production company to take it.

With everyone going into to pods and Eli staying out, they could start a new season when they emerge and they can kill off anyone they wish as well. So if a new company where to take it up they could make a lot of cast changes which could be written into the story line as malfunctioning pods, and for Eli, that he didn't fix the last pod.

It also means that they could even wait a few years and start a new season because the aging could be explained by the 3 years in the pods and not working entirely as predicted.

There is also a third possibility that they make a movie that starts after they emerge from the pods but 1,000 years as past and they have reached the source of the signal.

I think this was the best possible ending for those of us who are still hoping another production company may try and take it up...fingers crossed because I know it’s pretty unlikely

z0oT

As was expected, a cliffhanger probably never to be resolved. Oh well, time to settle into a new series. :rolleyes:

Dwaegon

It's STARGATE!

crazyderk

Some sites have been talking about 10 final episodes to be aired, havnt been able to find anything definite but its a bit hopeful

Links here

http://stanleydankoski.com/2011/03/07/sgu-stargate-universe-final-10-episodes-syfy/

(awesome action clip on that site)

and here

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Tuesday+Stargate+Universe+floats+into+void/4754158/story.html

(its in the first line or two under the picture)

Edit: been trying to do a bit more googeling on it and some people may be referring to the final 10 episodes as the ten we just watched, so not sure whats going on

Ian Beale

crazyderk wrote: »

Some sites have been talking about 10 final episodes to be aired, havnt been able to find anything definite but its a bit hopeful

Links here

http://stanleydankoski.com/2011/03/07/sgu-stargate-universe-final-10-episodes-syfy/

(awesome action clip on that site)

and here

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Tuesday+Stargate+Universe+floats+into+void/4754158/story.html

(its in the first line or two under the picture

First link is dated march 7th which is the date the 11th episode aired.
Thought the last few episodes were good but didn't think the ending was great, as another poster on here said something along the lines of " Oh stasis pods they'll come in handy"

liamtech

Im Devastated that the franchise i have loyally followed for 15 odd years is over - I intend to go back and watch every episode from sg1 again-

BUT!

I have to be completely honest and state that this last series (SGU) was in my opinion awful (im entitled to my opinion folks!)- And as for that last episode and the monumental cliff-hanger - i dont even care - The last ever stargate episode like the last ever stargate series was full of ridiculous "Friends" style hugging, and sobbing shaking hands- the story like the series had very little substance-

I fully expect to be heckled for saying this but, i for one will not miss SGU - Far from it, i am actually glad its over - theres very little more i could have taken - Only BLIND FAITH in the franchise kept me watching!

Thats it! Let the heckling commence!

off.the.walls

Thought it was a good ending but it does leave you thinking oh how are they going to get out of this one. Loved all the stargate series up till now sad to see it go. Would love to see this get wrapped up in a movie or something.

LoGiE

Just watched Gauntlet... Probably the worst series finale I've ever watched...of any show. Thank the Gods it's over.

kowloon

Wasn't a good season end, nor was it a good series end.
I expected them to wake up after 3 or a thousand years and then the cliffhanger would be revealed.

The show was a disaster. Every time some interesting plot development was made it would be resolved or dropped before it had been used. So many examples. Too many convenient resolutions.

Antar Bolaeisk

Best possible ending for the show, very bittersweet much like the reality of losing Stargate. The ambiguity was also good, allowing us to draw our own conclusions rather than just ending on a rubbish cliff hanger that would never get a resolution. I liked the switching off of everything at the end as well, counterbalancing the opening scenes on Destiny of everything turning on.

I'm sad to see Stargate go, and even sad to see Universe end, it was very boring in the beginning but it has matured a lot since then and become excellent viewing over this last season.

Dwaegon

Honestly, best possible ending.

There was no necessity to go out with a bang, no huge cliffhanger, just an ending with a lot of options to run with if (here's hoping) someone picks it up, either as a series or a film.

In the end, it was all about Eli and his self-confidence in the end. Something most people could actually relate to!

red dave

Such a poignant ending given the fact it got cancelled. Such a shame as I highly regarded this show

Paulj

A terrible pity that this should has ended. I thought it had wonderful potential and seemed so much more believable than SG1 and SGA.

I quite liked the way it finished... paved the way for someone to continue the story line.

Sarn

I agree that it was a good way to end. It's left to our imagination whether they'll wake up in three years, a thousand or never. As an aside, Eli could always upload to Destiny if he doesn't get the pod running.

Berns

Whats the chances we'll remember in 3 years and come back and ask so whats happened

RolandIRL

happy with how it ended. it's not resolved, but at least it's not a huge cliffhanger like other shows that get cancelled get. liked the music at the end.

could they not have fitted more than one person in the statis pods? i could imagine Eli thawing Chloe and telling her he has to go in her pod

-Trek-

Goodbye Destiny.

docdolittle

Why the hell didn't Eli bring the 3 suits with him to the sealed off area? There is obviously oxygen in those giving him extra time? I thought all the lights going out and showing Destiny was a nice ending though, still a shame that it was the ending to the whole of stargate...

For some reason I was expecting a goodbye and thanks for watching after the show ended from all the main characters throughout the years

alfaz

this was definitely the best stargate series that was made.

can't believe they've canceled, great ending though. hopefully someone picks it up.

Skerries

if you want to go down the suit route then he could just climb in the shuttle and that would buy him a few extra days

"This is Ripley, last surviving member of the Nostromo, signing off. ..."

docdolittle

Skerries wrote: »

if you want to go down the suit route then he could just climb in the shuttle and that would buy him a few extra days

"This is Ripley, last surviving member of the Nostromo, signing off. ..."

Yea, but an extra few days he couldn't of fixed the pod because he would be in a shuttle... Instead of in a suit beside it...

I'm also wondering if chloe could calculate jumps that close, why couldn't they jump right beside a star, go into it and fight from inside with the full power?

GSPfan

I think that was the best possible ending we could have hoped for when you factor in that the episode was shot before they got cancelled. Can you imagine last years finale being the last episode???? That would have been far worse.

I know there are a few hoping it will be back in the future but it surely won't. The main cast is too large to expect them all to still be available if it gets picked up by another channel. And to be honest the ratings are bad so why would they pick it up.

GSPfan

docdolittle wrote: »

I'm also wondering if chloe could calculate jumps that close, why couldn't they jump right beside a star, go into it and fight from inside with the full power?

I had the exact same thoughts. I suppose that helps the power issue thing but the food and water one would still remain.

RolandIRL

I'd say the sun's gravity would affect FTL jumps. remember the episode "Faith" about the planet that was built? you probably couldn't jump close to a star, because the gravity would knock you out before you'd get close

ixoy

Excellent end to the series. Now if it had been a season end I'd have felt differently but, as this gave an actual sense of closure to a degree, this worked perfectly. More poignant than SG1 or SGA's series finales. There was no need for a big action sequence here, IMO, because we needed to say goodbye to the people and not to a series of explosions.

Too soon, too soon.

Riamfada

Far too much rubbish emotion and sentimentality in this thread. It was a story without an ending. None of this parallel with how the show was cancelled rubbish, I dont care how the show was cancelled I watched the show for the story not the production and funding backstory. I wanted to know what happened to the crew.

The show should have ended with a step through the stargate not a lame flicker out and the pointless Ely storyline for the last five minutes, what did that serve?

Very dissapointed.

elekid

I was happy with it, I thought it was just about the nicest way it could have ended given how abruptly the show was cancelled. Even though the plot is unresolved, it still managed to bring about a feeling of closure and of saying goodbye, intentional or not. It was much better than a cliff hanger ending in the middle of a perilous action scene or a space battle, which is what I was dreading.

I'll really miss this show. It would be kinda cool if it somehow got resurrected in 2014 though

overshoot

crazyderk wrote: »

http://stanleydankoski.com/2011/03/07/sgu-stargate-universe-final-10-episodes-syfy/

anyone know what episode the pyramid shaped satellite weapons with sphereial cutouts are from? its at 1.05 i just cant think of them.

if it has to be the ending of sgu, its nice, a massive battle scene/cliffhanger like the mid season break would have really left a bad unfinished feeling to it.
who knows hopefully it will be picjed up again

TheKells

No more stargate

docdolittle

overshoot wrote: »

anyone know what episode the pyramid shaped satellite weapons with sphereial cutouts are from? its at 1.05 i just cant think of them.

Not quite sure, but wasn't that the episode the Harcesis comes to earth and shows Daniel what would happen with if he received his knowledge

Its called Absolute Power S4e17

Sudden Valley

Thought it was a little uneven episode. I think they really developed some interesting characters but were let down by the scripts. I may have been dozing thorugh the last few minutes of this episodes but I was confused that Young didn't sacrifice himself in place of eli- it was made pretty clear that eli didn't expect the person left to be able to fix the remaining pod- and isn't Eli the resident genius while Young contributes very little. Also they don't allow for the fact that in the intervening years that a solution may be found from Earth. It just seemed a very dumb plan to end the series with.

Richard Dower

red dave wrote: »

Such a poignant ending given the fact it got cancelled. Such a shame as I highly regarded this show

I thought it ended well, the right way and best possible way all things considered. Eli came into his own, admitted he was smarter then Rush, something i think even Rush would privately think to himself.

It wasn't the greatest finale but at least it didn't end like most cliffhangers do...thank god.

Richard Dower

Sudden Valley wrote: »

Thought it was a little uneven episode. I think they really developed some interesting characters but were let down by the scripts. I may have been dozing thorugh the last few minutes of this episodes but I was confused that Young didn't sacrifice himself in place of eli- it was made pretty clear that eli didn't expect the person left to be able to fix the remaining pod- and isn't Eli the resident genius while Young contributes very little. Also they don't allow for the fact that in the intervening years that a solution may be found from Earth. It just seemed a very dumb plan to end the series with.

I think the logic was that Destiny needed a commander and leader, Young was nesscary.

_Kaiser_

Thought it was another good episode after a string of them lately..

As others have said, although unintentional, it was a decent series end under the circumstances - I'm just very disappointed that we won't get to finish the story.

Sure it was a bit weird at the start seeing Stargate go all "serious", and sure the story took a while to get going and there was a lot of filler but I still think it was a hell of a lot better than what won out in the ratings (read: advertising revenue) war - more celebrity/reality ****e

Despite its flaws, I enjoyed this show and I think they assembled a group of actors and characters who were just starting to come good - I mean think back what TNG or DS9 was like in its first 2 seasons!

I'll miss it anyway...

hightower1

Another meh episode. Wasnt overly moving that you would imagine the end of stargate would be I mean if sg1 had ended like this it would have had a lot more emotional weight cause as a whole that series was just better. i still remember watching "all good things" from the next generation and "what you leave behind" from ds9 and feeling genuinely moved... thats what good story telling will do, this was middle of the road FILLER - I highlight that simply cause when I think back on SGU thats the only thing I will remember.

The whole fiasco became horribly clear a after the first season break that it was going to be 1 good episode for every 3 /4 filler ones.. the whole point being the writers wanted to drag out the story under the guise of "character driver sci fi" but in reality all they bloody wanted was a stable pay check for as long as possible during a recession. So drag it out was the name of the game. The series suffered for it and they couldnt find a middle ground between draggin the a**e out of it and keeping fans interested. If a show is good enough no matter what time slot its put into it WILL shine and prevail so while SyFy scheduling didnt help the show itself was doomed from the beginning due to the writing staff.

Glad to see the back of it and its patronizing writing style and hope that ts given a serious chance as a franchise if its ever picked back up.

_Kaiser_

All the people giving out that it was a poor ending to the series need to remember that it wasn't written as the end to the series - just the season ender.

Judging it on that basis it was a decent end to a series of good episodes and would have set up Season 3 with any number of possible outcomes - do they all make it? Do they wake up early, on time or much later? Does Eli survive etc etc

(spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen it yet) SG1's (series) ending was no better in my opinion what with the big Reset Button being pressed for everyone except Teal'C and Atlantis, while it had lots of s'plosions didn't really resolve anything either!

@hightower1: In reference to All Good Things and What You Leave Behind, you have to judge those as endings to 7 year series where the characters and actors had grown (particularly in DS9) immesurably from the first 2 seasons.

(spoiler again for obvious reasons) As for DS9's finale... it could really have ended in the first hour - the 2nd was pretty poor by comparison with only the last 10 minutes or so being really necessary to tie things up, and the montage sequence was very over-indulgent I think, plus a bit silly without Jadzia (although I know this was for legal/contract reasons, but she WAS in it for 6 years after all!)

RolandIRL

Riamfada wrote: »

Far too much rubbish emotion and sentimentality in this thread. It was a story without an ending. None of this parallel with how the show was cancelled rubbish, I dont care how the show was cancelled I watched the show for the story not the production and funding backstory. I wanted to know what happened to the crew.

The show should have ended with a step through the stargate not a lame flicker out and the pointless Ely storyline for the last five minutes, what did that serve?

Very dissapointed.

i think given that this ending was written on the basis that it was going to be continued on, it could have been a damn sight worse! also felt that this series was more about the characters than the stargate itself. yes that was a bit of a flaw in that they should have used the stargate more often, but i still think it was a good ending even if destiny's story had been told.

Volvagia

I liked it.

It was an interesting episode, I was afraid that they spend the 2nd half of the episode agonising over which 8 would stay out of the pods.

The decoy suicide shuttle was a nice move too.

I know it was written as a season finale, and I'm very glad it wasn't the Atlantis style - Oh No, that factory just exploded, possibly killing all the major cast members, now wait 6 months to find out what ridiculous way they all survived.

As a show finale, it wasn't the worst way to go out. Good development of characters and a nice open ending that hopefully will be continued in some form one day.

So long for now Stargate, come back soon.

astrofool

It reminded me of the SG1 episode "Within the Serpent's Grasp" with everything being shut down (I think SG1 was going through it's own cancellation issues at the time).

Not a bad ending considering it wasn't planned, just a pity we won't get to see what happens next (on screen anyway), so much potential there with the descendents, the advanced race, the supply line planet.

tallaghtmick

no more lt.boobs

Riamfada

Where was the closure? Did they survive? What was the point of the Lucian attack other than to introduce one minor character? What was the point of the whole message from God lark? No answers to any of the questions raised in the story.

Anita Blow

Riamfada wrote: »

Where was the closure? Did they survive? What was the point of the Lucian attack other than to introduce one minor character? What was the point of the whole message from God lark? No answers to any of the questions raised in the story.

Questions I'm sure would've been answered if it didn't get cancelled

sutty

Its been said a number of times, this wasn't a Series final but rather a Season final. Theres a big difference, they never have clouser in a Season Final. Why would they.

I thought it was great. I would have liked to see a story along the lines of Eli not getting the pod repaired but finding a way to get more power outa the ship and having enough to keep minum life support for the 3 years the others slept. So when they wake up he had aged 3 years and none of them had.

Something like that would have made Eli a much different person and see him having issues interacting with the crew when they come back.

But other than that there was a load of options for the show. I'm still hoping there is a option for the show somewhere. But who knows if Syfy will keep the rights closed. But stranger things have happened. Looked at what happened when SG1 got canned in its first few sesaons. It got picked up again.

CiDeRmAn

Very pissed off at the ending, not because I didn't enjoy the show, I thought it was fantastic, but because it's being replaced by wrestling!
SGU was a brave attempt to take the franchise into uncharted waters, the place few shows have tried to go before, that is to produce original stories without being mere reheats of Star Trek eps or revisions of SG1, we didn't have to suffer they way I did with 80% of SG:A, where it was cliche after cliche.
And now we have nothing but Fringe to look forward to in the autumn, do we really think anything else is going to last past the mid season? That time travelling dino/Lost in space effort? It has cancellation written all over it and it has yet to be aired....

SirenX

I thought it was a really depressing ending. it made me sad that I'd never get to know what the future holds for the characters

5starpool

This was my favourite of all the Stargate shows for a number of reasons, although SG1 is close in different ways. Stupid SyFy.

Will the last person out of the forum turn off the lights please.

I thought it was the perfect ending for the series and that it ended up on a high-note, having actually been good towards the end. Eli looking out over the ship at the end was a great touch, I think most of us here could imaging the same sense of wonder if we were in the same situation!

I reckon Stargate might be due a reboot in the years to come, hopefully before I'm drawing a pension.