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Can I make bread out of this ?

  • 09-05-2011 1:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭


    I was watching Huge Infrnal Whitlessall on the telly last night making bread - and I have to admit I was pretty damn tempted to go out and buy a loafer and tear into it after and I am still thinking about it.

    Anyway that got me to thinking.

    I often blend porridge oats, wheat bran, flax seed and hazelnuts to make a kinda flour which I add to protein and berries with water as a quick breakfast shake.

    according to HFW all you need to make bread is flour, yeast , salt and water.

    Anyway - my q is, would my blend of porridge oats, wheat bran, flax seed and hazelnuts (flour) make any sort of bread? Would the above react differently to ordinary flour or something - I don't know the chemistry of making bread sorry.

    I know I should just go and try it but I am trying to decide whether I should go buy yeast on the way home or buy a nice fresh loaf and go nuts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Kewreeuss


    No, not with those ingredients alone, you may get a solid indigestible brick.
    You need wheat flour as a base.
    When you buy your yeast get a bag of odlums strong flour too.
    There is usually a simple recipe on the back, follow that for your first attempt.
    Then next time try substituting a handful of flour with porridge and throw in the other stuff as well and see what happens.
    This could open up a whole other world for you:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Kewreeuss


    Hey, try this bomb, although there may be too much sugar in it.
    2 cups of nuts, almond, pistacchio, hazel walnuts pinenuts
    1 cup dried chopped fruit apricots, figs prunes dates.
    1/4 cup raisins, 1/4 cup sultanas.
    zest of one orange and one lemon.
    4 tspsn bread soda.
    big pinch of cinamon, nutmeg and cloves, little pinch of salt.
    1 3/4 cups water, 1 cup strongly flavoured honey
    3/4 cup sugar.
    2 tblspns dark rum
    3 cups of flour.

    combine the nuts, fruit and zest in a big bowl.
    add in the bread soda and spices.
    put the water, honey sugar rum in a saucepan, bring to the boil and then take it off the heat.
    pour the liquid over the fruit and nuts and stir gently. leave to rest for 5 mins.
    then add the flour, mix just until the flour is wet and rest it for another couple of minutes. it will be all lumpy.
    Put the mixture in a loaf tin and bake for about 65-75 mins or until a skewer comes out just dry, it doesn't matter if the tip is a tiny bit sticky.
    let it rest in the tin for 5 mins then take it out to cool.

    As I said, you might not make this because it's full of sugar but its lovely and you can add other spices too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    You could make bread out of that, but not yeast bread. If you used baking soda and buttermilk as your raising agent, you'd get a denser bread, but still edible. Also a lot less work. Having made yeast bread by hand, I can tell you there's a hell of a lot of kneading and proving and kneading again before you get to bake. Honestly, home-made bread smells wonderful but for the amount of time and effort you put into it, I'm not sure it's worth it.

    Soda bread on the other hand, is a piece of piss to make. Two cups of flour or whatever flour substitute you are using, one cup of butter milk, a half teaspoon of baking soda (bicarb, NOT baking powder) and a little salt. Everything else is optional. Mix till it comes together, knead very briefly, shape as desired, and bake for about 20 minutes in a 200c oven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭Dotcomdolly


    Here's a recipe for flaxseed bread I really enjoy.


    250g flaxseed .The aldi bag is the exact 250 g
    100g of butter
    2 tsp of baking powder
    5 eggs
    6 tsp of mixed herbs
    2 table spoons of parmasan cheese

    Mix all the dry ingredients together in a bowl well .

    Melt the butter and add to this the 5 eggs .

    Add the butter and eggs to the dry mix in the bowl and mix together well .

    Place in a greased loaf tin and put in the oven for 20 mins at 170 Celsius . Place on a wire tray to cool .

    I cut this in half and put half in the freezer the other half should be kept in the fridge .A great alternative to bread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    Here's a recipe for flaxseed bread I really enjoy.


    250g flaxseed .The aldi bag is the exact 250 g
    100g of butter
    2 tsp of baking powder
    5 eggs
    6 tsp of mixed herbs
    2 table spoons of parmasan cheese

    Mix all the dry ingredients together in a bowl well .

    Melt the butter and add to this the 5 eggs .

    Add the butter and eggs to the dry mix in the bowl and mix together well .

    Place in a greased loaf tin and put in the oven for 20 mins at 170 Celsius . Place on a wire tray to cool .

    I cut this in half and put half in the freezer the other half should be kept in the fridge .A great alternative to bread

    thanks - I have made this loads of times and its lovely.

    but as stated - I don't understand the chemistry of baking that's why I cannot figure out why I can't make a lovely crusty loaf from the above ingredients ( think vienna loaf but healthy and probably darker ). - sorry if this seems obvious to some but I am just not getting it, is there something in flour thats not in my mixture to make it rise ? Is that not what the yeast does ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    It's all to do with gluten, which wheat flour contains lots of, and other flours contain very little. Gluten acts as a sort of glue when you bake it with yeast, and give you lovely light fluffy bread, with lots of air holes and a nice crust. Without the gluten, you get a sort of edible cement.

    Yeast plus sugar plus water plus white flour gives the lightest bread.

    Yeast plus sugar plus water plus wheat brown flour gives a denser bread. Other flours give a dense bread.

    Sodium bicarbonate plus buttermilk (or yogurt or other acid) will also cause bread to rise, but not as dramatically as yeast and gluten rich flour.


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