bulgarian training bag

newby.204

anyone got one or make one? is it any use as a conditioning tool, for someone who is not a combat athlete or is it a gimmick?

Remmy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il8rU0H-9ps

Remmy

Remmy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il8rU0H-9ps

I should add that I have never used one before but I might try making one in the next few weeks.The look like a good way to train rotational strength.

+ I love building new gym/exercise gear.

newby.204

im injured at the minute so as i am im doing a lot of readin and ive come across a few new things i want to try, this being one of them. ive been spendin alot of time on rosstraining.com, im still gona go back to SS(to make up for lost strentgh as quickly as possible), then madcow, but i want to include some conditioning/metcons as cardio has long since bored the pants off me!!!

Barry.Oglesby

Rotational strength eh.

Every day's a schoolday I guess.

Remmy

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Rotational strength eh.

Every day's a schoolday I guess.

I dunno if they would be tbh It just looks like a good way to train rotational strength.What do you reckon?You've probablly forgotten more about this kinda stuff than I know.

Hanley

Remmy wrote: »

I dunno if they would be tbh It just looks like a good way to train rotational strength.What do you reckon?You've probablly forgotten more about this kinda stuff than I know.

You want anti-extension and anti-rotation (ie the ability to resist those forces, not create them)

Remmy

Hanley wrote: »

You want anti-extension and anti-rotation (ie the ability to resist those forces, not create them)

Ah right thanks for that Hanley.What would be an example of anti extension and anti rotation movements?

Hanley

Remmy wrote: »

Ah right thanks for that Hanley.What would be an example of anti extension and anti rotation movements?

Anti extenstion: ab roll outs & planks, basically anything that makes you brace your core in the sagittal/front to back plane

Anti rotation: pallof press, halos, tornado ball swings, woodchoppers etc etc

EDIT: turny-around type movements in that vids are anti-rotation, the swings/slams are anti extension, broadly speaking.

sharky86

Any ideas where to get an inner tube big enough?

amazingemmet

Here's one I'm bringing out: Irish Potato Sack Swinging does everything, strength of a culchie, charming good looks of D4 socialite and six pack like a six pack of dutch gold. Its Epic

newby.204

im gona try motor factors theres a few in my area

arybvtcw0eolkf

We're spoilt in work, so guess what we have - Bulgarian bags :P

Depending on what you use them for, I guess they can be a good addition to your kit.

I use them as they replicate (somewhat) the power I need to move someone around the judo mat (and break their balance) - of course this is best done with a partner, in a judo jacket - on a judo mat!.. But since I don't have access to all that in work I use the Bulgarian bag, but in conjunction with all the other training I do and not to replace any of it.

Would I buy one - probably not, unless I needed to swing something about the place.

newby.204

well honestly i was just going to use it for conditioning, in say a circuit or as part of a metcon or a tabata interval, but im going to make it im fooked if im paying for it.

aFlabbyPanda

I bought one in Feb from here, http://www.buykettlebelldublin.com/products/bulgarian-bags

I got the 17kg one and find it great. So far its held up to a load of abuse. There is a video at the end of that page of yer man using one which shows some of the routine you can use it for. Mostly I use it for squats, good mornings, military press, shoulder press, etc and grip strength for BJJ. I was going to make my own but my DIY skills aren't the best to be honest.

I would highly recommend it. The come with a handy dvd which shows you all the circuits.

David Jones

I bought one last year, but made two this year at a fraction of the cost.

Got the inner tubes from here
http://www.camskill.co.uk/

zip ties, some tape and play sand from argos and sorted.

Nice for squats, swings, running etc.

arybvtcw0eolkf

BrianjG wrote: »

Mostly I use it for squats, good mornings, military press, shoulder press, etc and grip strength for BJJ.

Just as an aside, a better suggestion for working on your grip strength for BJJ would be to do chins/pull up's with either a towel or a Judo Gi - I recommend the Judo Gi as the collar and material is thicker and rougher than the BJJ Gi as I can't see how a Bulgarian bag would benefit Gi grip strength.

aFlabbyPanda

Stefan Wet Mirage wrote: »

I can't see how a Bulgarian bag would benefit Gi grip strength.

i've found doing the swings (overhead and around the world) to be excellent at building grip strength. the handles are thicker than the Gi obviously but you need a tight grip to stop the thing flying away.

arybvtcw0eolkf

BrianjG wrote: »

i've found doing the swings (overhead and around the world) to be excellent at building grip strength. the handles are thicker than the Gi obviously but you need a tight grip to stop the thing flying away.

Ok.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Sweet mother of Jesus, just checked out the prices from THIS SITE you'd want to have a hole in your head to pay that kinda money, madness.

sharky86

Stefan Wet Mirage wrote: »

Sweet mother of Jesus, just checked out the prices from THIS SITE you'd want to have a hole in your head to pay that kinda money, madness.

Ha! Understatement of the year! Remind me not to use that site

Hanley

Stefan Wet Mirage wrote: »

Sweet mother of Jesus, just checked out the prices from THIS SITE you'd want to have a hole in your head to pay that kinda money, madness.

251 for a 22kg bag?? F*ck. My. Life.

SanoVitae

Stefan Wet Mirage wrote: »

Sweet mother of Jesus, just checked out the prices from THIS SITE you'd want to have a hole in your head to pay that kinda money, madness.

I suppose it depends on who is buying it.

If I wanted to get one for SanoVitae, it would be the gym paying for it so it would simply be a matter of demonstrating its worth to the gym e.g. could we use if for something like a Strongman Class, which would either make money directly or inspire people to join our gym.

If I was building a home gym, on the other hand, I'd definitely make one myself. I might give it a go actually!

Remmy

Hanley wrote: »

251 for a 22kg bag?? F*ck. My. Life.

Jesus thats crazy alright.Especiallly if you consider the raw materials cost less than about 25 euro.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I'm thinking that making a bulgarian bag might be a good idea, whats to lose I guess.

arybvtcw0eolkf

SanoVitae wrote: »

I suppose it depends on who is buying it.

If I wanted to get one for SanoVitae, it would be the gym paying for it so it would simply be a matter of demonstrating its worth to the gym e.g. could we use if for something like a Strongman Class, which would either make money directly or inspire people to join our gym.

If I was building a home gym, on the other hand, I'd definitely make one myself. I might give it a go actually!

I agree absolutely, I was thinking more about an individual buying one.

Like I said, we have them in work. Along with power bags, kettlebells and all the usual gym gear - what we do have, and I really have to get around to including them in my training are rings.. Not sure the proper name, but they're rings suspended from the ceiling on nylon ropes/straps.

Barry.Oglesby

They're either just rings or blast straps. Great tool.

I think bulgarian bags look good for variety, like power bags, sandbags etc. but the price is just crazy. It's hard to justify paying out for something like that. Per kilo that makes it about the most expensive piece of kit around.

Rovi

Stefan Wet Mirage wrote: »

Along with power bags, kettlebells and all the usual gym gear - what we do have, and I really have to get around to including them in my training are rings.. Not sure the proper name, but they're rings suspended from the ceiling on nylon ropes/straps.

Gymnastic rings
Solid barstewards of yokes, but wonderful in their own way.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

They're either just rings or blast straps. Great tool.

Cheers, I tried using them once or twice & felt like I was about to be hung, drawn & quartered

sharky86

Can anyone tell me where to get an inner tube in Ireland? I can not find anywhere that sells them.... I can not find them on the site mentioned above

David Jones

Just rechecked camskill, yeah they seem to have disappeared. I guess most tyres are tubeless so the market is limited.

This would do
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16-INCH-INNER-TUBE-205-215-75-16-CAR-TYRE-VAN-4X4-/320686069577?pt=UK_Cars_Tyres_RL&hash=item4aaa611749

newby.204

figured id post this seen as i started it

made the bag today, haven't weighed it yet, two cable ties, 16" truck tube and duck tape, will post pics and weight later, had a bit of a mess about with it when i made it, naturally, cant wait to use it and sure ill let yee know how it goes

jive

I think I'm going to make one of these and a prowler just as something to do this summer. I'll post up pics if/when I get the time to do it. A combination of the 2 of them would be a tough but fun workout on a sunny day

Mellor

newby.204 wrote: »

figured id post this seen as i started it

made the bag today, haven't weighed it yet, two cable ties, 16" truck tube and duck tape, will post pics and weight later, had a bit of a mess about with it when i made it, naturally, cant wait to use it and sure ill let yee know how it goes

Could you post total weight, and rough cost please

Wollwead

jive wrote: »

I think I'm going to make one of these and a prowler just as something to do this summer. I'll post up pics if/when I get the time to do it. A combination of the 2 of them would be a tough but fun workout on a sunny day

Let us know how you get on making the prowler buddy, would absolutely love one of those badboys, i have pretty much everything else kettlebell sandbag weighted vest gym rings! The prowler would complete the torture!

sharky86

Mellor wrote: »

Could you post total weight, and rough cost please

I have just made a 15kg bag.. Cost in total €12.95
Argos sand 4 euro and inner tube the rest

jive

Wollwead wrote: »

Let us know how you get on making the prowler buddy, would absolutely love one of those badboys, i have pretty much everything else kettlebell sandbag weighted vest gym rings! The prowler would complete the torture!

Will do Probably won't get time to research + do it until the end of June/early July. I'll post up pics/advice (i.e. what I did wrong :P) when I get round to it!

Hanley

sharky86 wrote: »

I have just made a 15kg bag.. Cost in total €12.95
Argos sand 4 euro and inner tube the rest

Where'd you pick up the inner tube?