muntjac deer shot in wicklow

Spunk84

I actual didnt know realize how small these animal were:eek:

It wasn't me!

I wonder whether they're going to end up a credible hunting species or just going to be a blip on the radar. If the former, it would be very nice to have an established year round deer hunting species.

Spunk84

It wasn't me! wrote: »

I wonder whether they're going to end up a credible hunting species or just going to be a blip on the radar. If the former, it would be very nice to have an established year round deer hunting species.

1 lb of vension now thats interesting

BELOWaverageIQ

Id say youll need a 30-06 for that last one Spunk...............imagine, instant venison soup Mmmmmmmmmmmm:P

Spunk84

BELOWaverageIQ wrote: »

Id say youll need a 30-06 for that last one Spunk...............imagine, instant venison soup Mmmmmmmmmmmm:P

I was thinking on the lines of a shotgun deer slug:D you want to know it won't run off when you shoot it:rolleyes: venison cupa soup LOL maybe a deer pot noodle?

Tackleberrywho

Spunk84 wrote: »

I actual didnt know realize how small these animal were:eek:

I wish more pics would be posted, with that days Daily newspaper in the shot, just so we would know that it was actually Ireland (not questioning the pic Osama )

Spunk84

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I wish more pics would be posted, with that days Daily newspaper in the shot, just so we would know that it was actually Ireland (not questioning the pic Osama )

They should put it on a recent newspaper but then again I wouldn't put every fox I shot on one, just to prove it was shot in ireland if you know what I'm saying? I got the pic off the deer association of Ireland, so thought it would be okie dokie but you wouldn't know? Osama still lives !!

marlin vs

Look's like a rat with long legs,if you shot one of those you could tell everyone "my one is smaller than your's":D

FISMA

I wonder what they taste like.

jap gt

when was this shot

Spunk84

jap gt wrote: »

when was this shot

im not sure jap i just was browsing the irish deer society on FB and came across it. Didnt realize how miniature they where:eek: and thought i would throw it up. Very small, im surprised foxes haven't started to eat them instead of rabbits LOL

You could take one out with a sling shot;)

tfox

FISMA wrote: »

I wonder what they taste like.

Delicious Nicest of all venison, bugger all meat if you only shoot one though :rolleyes:

I have to wonder bout all these muntjac that are reported shot, I think the only one confirmed was one found run over in the wee north

doyle61

I was chatting to a friend of mine about muntjack the other day and he said his brothers friend shot one this year; when I asked where, he said an area which is close to where the lads said this one was shot and where they say they saw the others.

Spunk84

the muntjac deer look great to hunt , not alot of wastage for people who dont have big freezers;)

Grizzly 45

Spunk84 wrote: »

They should put it on a recent newspaper but then again I wouldn't put every fox I shot on one, just to prove it was shot in ireland if you know what I'm saying?

well, it would be one way to end the debate if somone does shoot one here in Ireland .Take a pic of it with a national Irish paper with the headline nice and clear and the date.If you are really brave ,throw in a local rag as well to give a clue as to where it was shot.;)

I got the pic off the deer association of Ireland, so thought it would be okie dokie but you wouldn't know? Osama still lives !!

Thought it was Guy Fawkes from the film " V"

Cran

Spunk84 wrote: »

They should put it on a recent newspaper but then again I wouldn't put every fox I shot on one, just to prove it was shot in ireland if you know what I'm saying? I got the pic off the deer association of Ireland, so thought it would be okie dokie but you wouldn't know? Osama still lives !!

Thats a Gain bag of dogfood in the pic, so good chance its Ireland:)

Hibrion

I did see a muntjac a few summers ago in South Wicklow. I was out with the 22 and had to look several times to believe my eyes. They really are tiny!

Jonty

doyle61 wrote: »

I was chatting to a friend of mine about muntjack the other day and he said his brothers friend shot one this year; when I asked where, he said an area which is close to where the lads said this one was shot and where they say they saw the others.

Yeah but where EXACTLY lol!!:D

doyle61

Jonty wrote: »

Yeah but where EXACTLY lol!!:D

Not my place to say where but they were both shot in areas close to each other;). Personally I doubted they were in the country but I have no reason to doubt what I was told in these cases

It wasn't me!

I'll be happier when I've a couple of them hanging in the shed now.

Spunk84

Jonty wrote: »

Yeah but where EXACTLY lol!!:D

doyle61 wrote: »

Not my place to say where but they were both shot in areas close to each other;). Personally I doubted they were in the country but I have no reason to doubt what I was told in these cases

id be very surprised if someone would tell you where they shot them, similar to asking for good pheasant spots in a gun club;) theyll send you the opposite directions:D im not sure if it was shot in Ireland or not but the person claims it was

doyle61

Spunk84 wrote: »

id be very surprised if someone would tell you where they shot them, similar to asking for good pheasant spots in a gun club;) theyll send you the opposite directions:D im not sure if it was shot in Ireland or not but the person claims it was

I've no reason to doubt either claim and it's for this exact reason why I'm not saying where I heard they were shot; it's someone else's hunting ground and if the shoe was on the other foot I wouldn't like lads landing into my spots;).

Dusty87

It wasn't me! wrote: »

it would be very nice to have an established year round deer hunting species.

And you, as a deer hunter, is supposed to eradicate them........nice

It wasn't me!

Dusty87 wrote: »

And you, as a deer hunter, is supposed to eradicate them........nice

It's something of a conflict alright. It's been said before that their nature is such that by the time you're seeing them, they're too well established to be eradicated. Then there's the question of their real environmental impact and which species they compete with to the detriment of native wildlife (There was something posted on that which I recall being interesting but can't remember where to even look now). Personally, if I see them, I'll shoot them, but I'm not going to make a crusade of it either, and if I start seeing them regularly, I'll start shooting them regularly, but if I never wipe them out, well, so be it. I'm not going to lose sleep. They'll just be another animal to fit into the management plan, and I'll consult resources in England and figure out how best to do it.

Dusty87

It wasn't me! wrote: »

It's something of a conflict alright. It's been said before that their nature is such that by the time you're seeing them, they're too well established to be eradicated. Then there's the question of their real environmental impact and which species they compete with to the detriment of native wildlife (There was something posted on that which I recall being interesting but can't remember where to even look now). Personally, if I see them, I'll shoot them, but I'm not going to make a crusade of it either, and if I start seeing them regularly, I'll start shooting them regularly, but if I never wipe them out, well, so be it. I'm not going to lose sleep. They'll just be another animal to fit into the management plan, and I'll consult resources in England and figure out how best to do it.

Fair enough IWM,
Just a fair amount of deer shooters wouldnt mind having them here, as an "all round species". I find this funny as they are the only ones allowed shoot them, when the NPWS want them gone. Do ya understand where im coming from?

It wasn't me!

Dusty87 wrote: »

Fair enough IWM,
Just a fair amount of deer shooters wouldnt mind having them here, as an "all round species". I find this funny as they are the only ones allowed shoot them, when the NPWS want them gone. Do ya understand where im coming from?

Oh I get it, but it's a legislative issue, and when there are guys with deer licences there, they can shoot them, while it would require scheduled Dail debate time and the drafting of an amendment to the wildlife act to allow for the shooting of muntjac by people without a deer licence. Obviously, that's not the highest priority in the world these days, so it's not happening. That's my interpretation from the year round season anyway. It's as much as they can do without involving the legislature (and we're all painfully familiar with how efficient that is). As to whether they're a good idea, I personally don't have the expertise to say. Now, I know that if I see one, and provided it's a buck or a heavily pregnant doe, in accordance with best practice, I'm going to shoot it and keep a sharp eye out for others, which will follow suit, but I'm a recreational hunter. I'm not industrially culling the well established native deer species we do have, so certainly amn't going to be much of an asset to any sort of eradication policy except in an incidental capacity, because I don't have time for it. You could go too far the other way. If you remove their protected status then you'd have lads taking cracks at them with shotguns and .22 rimfires and the like and a lot of wounded deer. Much smarter would be to allow the use of .22 centrefires which produce 1000 ft/lbs, as in England for these small deer species (and, while you're at it, up the minimum for our normal deer species to a 6mm, but that's another argument) and that lets the lads with dedicated foxing rifles get in on it as well.