USA: 10 year old boy shoots Neo-Nazi father dead

JupiterKid

Personally, I think he did the world a favour by ridding the planet of another white supremacist slimebag.

But the child must have gone through some sort of trauma or abuse to resort to intentionally shooting his father - who was a prominant neo-Nazi in California.

Being America, the child was brought into court and charged wearing handcuffs.:(:mad: I wonder if prosecutors will look for the death penalty?

A sad story...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/boy-10-shoots-dead-neo-nazi-father-075358848.html

Paparazzo

"slimebag"? Hannibal, is that you?

landsleaving

There is just nothing happy about that story. The poor child, he'll probably never recover mentally. Although I could probably have said the same had his father raised him to maturity.

Dyr

I hope this kid was called Kyle. I really do.

seanybiker

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A 10-year-old boy has been charged with murdering his neo-Nazi father after he was gunned down at his home in California.
Jeff Hall, 32, died early on Sunday from a single gunshot wound in the house he shared with his five children.
His son appeared at Riverside County juvenile court on Wednesday and was charged with murder involving the use of a gun.
Authorities in southern California claim the boy, who has not been named because of his age, intentionally shot his father, but have not given any motive.
The 10-year-old was handcuffed when he appeared for the brief court hearing. He entered no plea and his detention hearing was postponed to May 18.
He is being kept in juvenile custody. His four siblings have now been taken into protective custody.
The Riverside Press-Enterprise reported police were called at 4.04am on Sunday to the family's home, which overlooks the University of California.
Riverside police spokesman Ed Blevins said the shooting was 'an intentional act' but would not release any more details.
Mr Hall was a regional leader of the National Socialist Movement, which promotes white separatism.
He lost a bid last November to replace incumbent Tom Evans of the Western Riverside Municipal Water District board.
The National Socialist Movement spokesman Charles Wilson refused to comment on his death.
A neighbour told the Press-Enterprise Mr Hall had been an intimidating presence in the neighbourhood.
Juan Trejo described a Halloween party last year when he flew a swastika flag from the house and guests wore KKK hoods.
"Honestly, I feel like it's over," said Mr Trejo, who lives across the street from Mr Hall's home.
"It was scary here. Hopefully we'll never see any of them again."

Camackaze

Did the world a favour tbf

joshrogan

Poor kid.

Ghandee

Good God!

The poor kid, keep an eye on this thread to see how the dad's condition is.

landsleaving

Ghandee wrote: »

Good God!

The poor kid, keep an eye on this thread to see how the dad's condition is.

He's dead Jim.

PeterIanStaker

I feel sorry for this child as he was a product of his environment, and we can nearly assume he didn't have anything resembling a normal home, probably was indoctrinated with American History X style Nazi bullshit.

RichieC

Ghandee wrote: »

Good God!

The poor kid, keep an eye on this thread to see how the dad's condition is.

Dead.

Ghandee

landsleaving wrote: »

He's dead Jim.

But not as we know it :eek:

ejmaztec

RichieC wrote: »

Dead.

He was probably dead from the neck up to start with.

ascanbe

Maybe he was pissed-off that his dad lost the basketball game for control of the court.

jive

He's a murderer. I think it's safe to say that a 10 year old doesn't understand white supremacy or neo-nazism, he's 10. He might have inadvertently done the world a favour but he really shot himself in the foot and is a slimeball himself.

RichieC

I think anyone who walks around worshiping the nazis with their heads held high wouldn't have a problem raping their or other peoples children

punchdrunk

ah well,Nevermind.

PeterIanStaker

RichieC wrote: »

I think anyone who walks around worshiping the nazis with their heads held high wouldn't have a problem raping their or other peoples children

Q: What do you call a Nazi in a pointy hat?

A: Your Holiness

baldbear

Sad story but got me thinking what a quality film American History X was!!!!

Biggins

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Q: What do you call a Nazi in a pointy hat?

A: Your Holiness

Ouch!

ejmaztec

jive wrote: »

He's a murderer. I think it's safe to say that a 10 year old doesn't understand white supremacy or neo-nazism, he's 10. He might have inadvertently done the world a favour but he really shot himself in the foot and is a slimeball himself.

He was a lousy shot, his foot had a lucky escape.

landsleaving

jive wrote: »

He's a murderer. I think it's safe to say that a 10 year old doesn't understand white supremacy or neo-nazism, he's 10. He might have inadvertently done the world a favour but he really shot himself in the foot and is a slimeball himself.

He may have been acting in self-defense, he may have been abused, he was certainly poorly raised and in an environment where he could access a weapon. I'd find it very hard to blame a ten year old for murder unless I knew for sure that his father was a wonderful person, and in this case that would be stretching the truth a little too far.

citizen_p

His father must of (obviously was) a pr*ck... simple as, I don't think many people will be missing him.

I would say the only trouble mind in this case is the fathers...

jive

landsleaving wrote: »

He may have been acting in self-defense, he may have been abused, he was certainly poorly raised and in an environment where he could access a weapon. I'd find it very hard to blame a ten year old for murder unless I knew for sure that his father was a wonderful person, and in this case that would be stretching the truth a little too far.

I agree with you but he's still a murderer. Do I blame him? Nope, it's got to do with nurture imo.

TheDukeOfEarl

Society is interesting.

JupiterKid

I just wonder what drove a child of 10 to fatally shoot his own father?

His household must have been a pretty grim place growing up.:(

@jive - you're very quick to judge others, aren't you?

Capt'n Midnight

just exactly how old were the parents ?

www.imdb.com/title/tt0077269

Show Time

Strange things happen out the west coast.

jive

jive wrote: »

He's a murderer. I think it's safe to say that a 10 year old doesn't understand white supremacy or neo-nazism, he's 10. He might have inadvertently done the world a favour but he really shot himself in the foot and is a slimeball himself.

So you're calling a ten year old kid a murderous slimeball? Classy.

When I was 10, thanks to Indiana Jones I knew all Nazis deserve death. But I didn't know the consequences of being a killer (and it wasn't WWII, and I hadn't free access to guns....)

I can understand how this could happen. Kid is regularly abused by father, wants to break away, father won't let him, kid has inkling that father is Bad Man, so has less incentive not to pull trigger.

Killer Pigeon

"The child should be hung, drawn and quartered - his remains should be placed on pikes in front of his school to remind other children of what happens when you break the law."

Rabies

Ghandee wrote: »

Good God!

The poor kid, keep an eye on this thread to see how the dad's condition is.

If im not mistaken it's rapidly getting worse

Rabies

Rabies wrote: »

If im not mistaken it's rapidly getting worse

You are, actually.

His condition is stable, with nil chance of his condition worsening.

Capt'n Midnight

Using violence to get his own way, his father would have been proud.

Mahatma coat

what makes people think that the Father was Abusive????

People hear the term 'White supremacist' and imedeatley presume the worst, the Father could have been a model parent, and the kid shot him because he was a little bollix who didnt want to clean his room.

but no its so much easier to cherry pick details and then fill in the blanks with your own bias and presumptions.

longshanks

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

"The child should be hung, drawn and quartered - his remains should be placed on pikes in front of his school to remind other children of what happens when you break the law."

Break the law where? Medieval times?

Mike 1972

Mahatma coat wrote: »

what makes people think that the Father was Abusive????

Because he almost certainly would have been attempting to indoctrinate his offspring with white supremacist ideology which alone would have constituted child abuse.

RichieC

Mahatma coat wrote: »

People hear the term 'White supremacist' and imedeatley presume the worst,

:rolleyes:

Mahatma coat

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Because he almost certainly would have been attempting to indoctrinate his offspring with white supremacist ideology which alone would have constituted child abuse.

Really?????????

what about the people who fill their childrens heads with nonsense about some fella in the sky who watches everything you do.

theres nothing wrong with trying to instil a sense of pride in a Child, opening their eyes to the inequalities of the world.

RichieC

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Really?????????

what about the people who fill their childrens heads with nonsense about some fella in the sky who watches everything you do.

theres nothing wrong with trying to instil a sense of pride in a Child, opening their eyes to the inequalities of the world.

What? you're comparing religion to neo nazism now?

jesus and I thought I was hardcore atheist.

what's your stormfront username btw?

ElasticMan

What's wrong with white supremecy anyway? Black people are allowed to be proud of their race /they even have a black history month/ so why can't we?

I'm white and I like to be around other white people. Problem?

steddyeddy

Mahatma coat wrote: »

what makes people think that the Father was Abusive????

People hear the term 'White supremacist' and imedeatley presume the worst, the Father could have been a model parent, and the kid shot him because he was a little bollix who didnt want to clean his room.

but no its so much easier to cherry pick details and then fill in the blanks with your own bias and presumptions.

Sorry but a father who thinks one race should have supremacy over another may not be an abusive dad but he certainly isnt a model parent or dad of the year exposing his kid to such regressive behaviour.

ricero

R.I.P NEO - NAZI FATHER

Mahatma coat

RichieC wrote: »

What? you're comparing religion to neo nazism now?

jesus and I thought I was hardcore atheist.
what's your stormfront username btw?

The point was about the indoctrination of children with the Beliefs and Ideas of the parents, who are you to decide whats right and wrong?

whether or not I'm a Sustaining Member of SF is none of your business

AhSureTisGrand

ElasticMan wrote: »

What's wrong with white supremecy anyway? Black people are allowed to be proud of their race /they even have a black history month/ so why can't we?

The term "black history month" suggests that the other 11 months are "white history" months. If we only claimed one specific month, then I suppose the remaining 10 months could be claimed by, I dunno, the Asians?

K-9

American History X was a great show.

jive

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're calling a ten year old kid a murderous slimeball? Classy.

Ok he's a stand-up citizen I take it back. He was right to shoot another human in the head.

ALL HAIL 10 YEAR OLD FREEDOM FIGHTER, WE ARE NOT WORTHY TO BREATHE THE SAME AIR AS YOU

etc.

CommuterIE

JupiterKid wrote: »

Personally, I think he did the world a favour by ridding the planet of another white supremacist slimebag.

But the child must have gone through some sort of trauma or abuse to resort to intentionally shooting his father - who was a prominant neo-Nazi in California.

Being America, the child was brought into court and charged wearing handcuffs.:(:mad: I wonder if prosecutors will look for the death penalty?

A sad story...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/boy-10-shoots-dead-neo-nazi-father-075358848.html

What bull****, if it was in Ireland the result would've been the same

orourkeda

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Really?????????

what about the people who fill their childrens heads with nonsense about some fella in the sky who watches everything you do.

theres nothing wrong with trying to instil a sense of pride in a Child, opening their eyes to the inequalities of the world.

Why are you trying to equate a faith or religious doctrine with Neo-Nazism. What faith a parent chooses to raise their child in is no concern of yours.

Instiling a sense of pride in a child is one thing. Instiling a hatred of people who look and act differently is another matter entirely.

orourkeda

JupiterKid wrote: »

Personally, I think he did the world a favour by ridding the planet of another white supremacist slimebag.

But the child must have gone through some sort of trauma or abuse to resort to intentionally shooting his father - who was a prominant neo-Nazi in California.

Being America, the child was brought into court and charged wearing handcuffs.:(:mad: I wonder if prosecutors will look for the death penalty?

A sad story...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/boy-10-shoots-dead-neo-nazi-father-075358848.html

White supremacy may not be to your taste. Frankly nobody has the right to tell someone else how to raise their children.

"white supremacy" as an ideology or belief system may be something you dont approve of but telling someone else to raise their children is a no no as far as I can see

R P McMurphy

If I was the neighbour I would be checking over my shoulder, what did he want to go on record for

Chuck Stone

ElasticMan wrote: »

What's wrong with white supremecy anyway? Black people are allowed to be proud of their race /they even have a black history month/ so why can't we?

I'm white and I like to be around other white people. Problem?

Are you saying that you'd rather not be around people who aren't white?

I kept the question simple for you....