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Fifa to review rules over player nationality

  • 05-05-2011 10:52am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/9475788.stm

    Fifa will consider a proposal to relax the rules on the naturalisation of players at its annual Congress.

    Personally, I think they are too relaxed as it is and far too many players jumping through loopholes for the sake of their careers than trying to represent the country that they feel they are from.

    Other alarming intentions from FIFA is the passing of the rule that allows them to change referee's for any match they deem the referee "not qualified" enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,734 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Dempsey wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/9475788.stm

    Fifa will consider a proposal to relax the rules on the naturalisation of players at its annual Congress.

    Personally, I think they are too relaxed as it is and far too many players jumping through loopholes for the sake of their careers than trying to represent the country that they feel they are from.

    Other alarming intentions from FIFA is the passing of the rule that allows them to change referee's for any match they deem the referee "not qualified" enough.

    As always it looks like this has a lot to do with money and opening up new markets for FIFA

    Making it easier to represent a country helps the cash rich countries like Qatar build a team of foreigners and thus be more competitive on the international stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    This will have relatively little effect, as you generally need to be resident 5 years in a country to gain citizenship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Football's governing body will consider a suggestion that a player over the age of 18 need only live in a new country for three rather than the current five years before he can play for its national team.

    Wow! Just in time for the 2014 World Cup! What an unbelievable coincidence!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    you might see Jermane Pennant moving to Qatar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,734 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    This will have relatively little effect, as you generally need to be resident 5 years in a country to gain citizenship.

    Not necessarily, a country can always fast track these things or waive the rules when the 'right' applicant come along.

    A bit like Ireland gave passports for cash in 90s


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    It will hardly affect the Irish set up would it?

    no players playing here are called up to the national team under Trappatoni anyway.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So international football becomes club football for billionaires to play with? Well done FIFA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    So international football becomes club football for billionaires to play with? Well done FIFA.

    Essentially. Mix money with anything and you'll eventually see its soul ripped out.

    Next logical step is for players to be permitted limitless transfers from country to country, all in the interest of acknowledging the rapid diversification of contemporary society or some such lark.

    Kolo, Yaya and Adebayor lining up for Qatar some day - don't for one second rule it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    I believe in the 5 year residency rule but they really have to get rid of the granny rule. Its too open to abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    So international football becomes club football for billionaires to play with? Well done FIFA.

    So why did they bring in the rules to stop billionaires (Quatar) dishing out passports in the first place?

    Like it or not, a player who has lived in a country for 2 or 5 years and has a passport has far more moral right to play for their adoptive country than somone who has never even been to their new country and qualifies through a bloodline they were unaware they had.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Essentially. Mix money with anything and you'll eventually see its soul ripped out.

    Next logical step is for players to be permitted limitless transfers from country to country, all in the interest of acknowledging the rapid diversification of contemporary society or some such lark.

    Kolo, Yaya and Adebayor lining up for Qatar some day - don't for one second rule it out.



    So you think Kolo, Yaya and Adebayor would be happy to play in the Qatar league for 3 years just so they can line up for Qatar at the world cup?:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Kolo, Yaya and Adebayor lining up for Qatar some day - don't for one second rule it out.

    But FIFA moved away from the passport only rule specifically to stop Quatar playing Ailton and a raft of Brazilians.

    They are tinkering round the edges of that rule now.

    This is one conspiracy theory too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    So you think Kolo, Yaya and Adebayor would be happy to play in the Qatar league for 3 years just so they can line up for Qatar at the world cup?:pac:

    Yup. If the money is right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Neil3030 wrote: »

    Kolo, Yaya and Adebayor lining up for Qatar some day - don't for one second rule it out.

    apart from the fact that theyve already been capped for another international team? i only skimmed the article, but there was no mention of changing the rules to let competitively capped players switch nation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭eoin2nc


    Pauleta wrote: »
    I believe in the 5 year residency rule but they really have to get rid of the granny rule. Its too open to abuse.

    Irish constitution guarantees citizenship to anyone that has a grnadparent with an Irish passport, its a legal right. Would it be fair or resonable to deny someone who has citizenship from playing for their country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Helix wrote: »
    apart from the fact that theyve already been capped for another international team? i only skimmed the article, but there was no mention of changing the rules to let competitively capped players switch nation?

    Read all my post, dude:
    Next logical step is for players to be permitted limitless transfers from country to country, all in the interest of acknowledging the rapid diversification of contemporary society or some such lark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    eoin2nc wrote: »
    Irish constitution guarantees citizenship to anyone that has a grnadparent with an Irish passport, its a legal right. Would it be fair or resonable to deny someone who has citizenship from playing for their country?

    Yes, because it was abused by Quatar handing out 11 passports to Brazilians.

    Its a well established principal as a result of that affair that to play for a country you must have two sets of boxes ticked:

    1: Citizenship of that country
    2: Comply with FIFA requirements.

    Those requirements are currently that you either have had to live in that country 5 uninterrupted years, have a parent, grandparent or spouse from that country.

    At the moment its very possible to have 1 or 2 ticked and not the other.

    All FIFA are doing is tinkering round the edges of 2. It really isn't a big deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭smokedeels


    International football is in a sorry state.


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