tesco (?) rush

Martron

work has started opposite the church. i read the site notice and it says its for a retail building with 181 car parking spaces with 2 dwellings and a road upgrade with traffic lights at thsoe juntions.

any one know any more about this?

i dont think it would necessarily be a bad thing. i have seen smaller tesco stores pop up and they seem to cause little impact to the surrounding area. ( visually i mean as i knwon financially they can make life tough sor small businesses)

the volume of traffic will obviously increase. but its good to see they will upgrade the road too.

anybody with any other thoughts on it? will it be a blessing or curse?

LeoB

This is Tesco Rush.

I am not so sure it will be a good thing for Rush irrespective of what Tesco say they purchase from local growers.

Its a good site and I wonder what contribution they will have to make to F.C.C and how they will be dealt with for their rates. Would someone like Tesco get a deal with all the shops they have? Will we ever know?

Corsendonk

I think its great for Rush:D(Tesco shareholder here) Downside is that there so successful in Ireland that Rush and other Irish towns now start to resemble West Britain with all these English highstreet names like Tesco, Boots, Debenhams popping upin the last 10 years.

LeoB

Ah we are not going to start disagreeing again;)

We are pretty much West British as it is with the huge influence of the stores already open, not to mention the football and other british sports a lot of us watch.

However I try not to be to much like the rest of the sheep and not get to influenced by them. It does not always work.

Corsendonk

LeoB wrote: »

Ah we are not going to start disagreeing again;)

We are pretty much West British as it is with the huge influence of the stores already open, not to mention the football and other british sports a lot of us watch.

However I try not to be to much like the rest of the sheep and not get to influenced by them. It does not always work.

Is there a noise restriction on that site? Since Tesco lorries deliver during the night, residents could easily be woke up at night by 40 foots dropping a delivery.

LeoB

Corsendonk wrote: »

Is there a noise restriction on that site? Since Tesco lorries deliver during the night, residents could easily be woke up at night by 40 foots dropping a delivery.

Thats interesting point. The houses in Old Rd Court and Brookford Park are very close to the site and assuming the public will enter off the Whitestown Rd or will the car park be off the Park Rd and goods come in from Whitestown Rd? There are quite a few very young families in this area. Dont know if there is a residence assoc YET!!!

Martron

well there is definately no res assoc in brookfrod park.

my main concern is not noise as i dont think there would be massive traffic. as in the site is on a road anyway so i dont think a couple more trucks will make a massive difference.

my current worries however are......
1. vibration from construction. i arrived home there to my mirror vibrating on my wall. so i will need to do something about that.

2. light pollution : will the shop have lights on 24/7 these i feel will effect the houses ore than the trucks.

3. final finish on the centre. as i what will it look like from the back of the houses will the house be lookinging on to a service yard? or will they plant trees or build fencing which will hide it ? ( as i said before tesco seem to have done agood job in other spots where a new store has been built, but i have not ever looked at it form the point of view of " would i like to live beside it?"

I am not a NIMBY but i think before work started a leaflet could have been posted through the door and that we should have been informed that work was starting.

All i hope for is that no radiation comes from the shop!!!

Corsendonk

Martron wrote: »

well there is definately no res assoc in brookfrod park.

my main concern is not noise as i dont think there would be massive traffic. as in the site is on a road anyway so i dont think a couple more trucks will make a massive difference. my current worries however are......

1. vibration from construction. i arrived home there to my mirror vibrating on my wall. so i will need to do something about that.

2. light pollution : will the shop have lights on 24/7 these i feel will effect the houses ore than the trucks.

3. final finish on the centre. as i what will it look like from the back of the houses will the house be lookinging on to a service yard? or will they plant trees or build fencing which will hide it ? ( as i said before tesco seem to have done agood job in other spots where a new store has been built, but i have not ever looked at it form the point of view of " would i like to live beside it?"

I am not a NIMBY but i think before work started a leaflet could have been posted through the door and that we should have been informed that work was starting.

All i hope for is that no radiation comes from the shop!!!

I don't think it be open 24 hour in Rush but if they do take deliveries in at night you will have alot of noise at 12-5 in the morning. They may have a loading bay on the plans which should shorten the delivery time but you will still have the noise from the trunk reversing. Then the bread men deliveries and the dairy truck also deliver into supermarkets early in the morn.

If you notice when your in Tesco late at night in the 24 hour stores they use very nosey metal cages to carry stock so they may have to load empties and crates back on the truck to clear the yard at night. Then the dairy has take back their dairy trollies and the bread men have get their bread trolley out of the back yard. Back yards dont make supermarkets money so much more consideration is given to the supermarket shopfloor layout and service yards are generally over crowded so their is a constant need to send back equipment as much as possible. I don't think Tesco does noise landscaping, they just build a big wall to stop people knicking the stock.

Maybe the council with its foresight of dealing with these issues imposed a delivery time restriction on Tesco as a condition of planning? I know noise levels from deliveries got so bad in certain parts of dublin near Tesco stores that even after paying for new windows for residents beside the stores the councils had to still keep delivery restrictions in place. Hopefully your a deep sleeper.

dan_d

If it's a small enough store, deliveries may not be during the night, but begin at 5.30am. There's a similar situation in Ridgewood in Swords, where there's a Tesco Extra with apartments on top and all around. There's signs all over the delivery areas about keeping quiet, and deliveries are not allowed before 5am (I think). Trucks are also not allowed to wait around in the yard before 5am with their engines idling.

Martron

@corsendonk.

very true about the loading yard. i have not seen the plans but i hope its enclosed and away from the majority of the houses.

even if there is a big wall around the yard it will make a big difference to the noise.

i wont be able to see the final tesco from my house but i am sure the people who can would not like a large concrete wall with barbwire on the top of it either.

it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

tesco are quite good with putting up hoarding with artistic representations of the final struture so i would imagine when the buildings are demolished and the hoarding goes up i am sure it wont be long until we see a representation of it.

dust will also be a big issue during this project. and there is enviromental limits they have to adhere to. so will see how the surrounding estates will react to it. ( mind you it will only be an issue if the contractor takes there eyes off the ball)

Bluetonic

dan_d wrote: »

If it's a small enough store, deliveries may not be during the night, but begin at 5.30am. There's a similar situation in Ridgewood in Swords, where there's a Tesco Extra with apartments on top and all around. There's signs all over the delivery areas about keeping quiet, and deliveries are not allowed before 5am (I think). Trucks are also not allowed to wait around in the yard before 5am with their engines idling.

Deliveries will permitted as follows:

Mon - Sat: 8am - 10pm.
Sun: 10am - 10pm

Christmas & Easter
Mon - Sat: 7am - 11pm
Sun: 9am - 9pm

Martron

^^^^ thats acceptable i would imagine.

where did you see this information?

Bluetonic

Martron wrote: »

where did you see this information?

In the planning permission grant order document.

Martron

very good. is this the document you can go into fingal offices to view?

Bluetonic

You'll get all the documents here, where you can see the layout of the site amongst everything else.

LeoB

Martron wrote: »

very good. is this the document you can go into fingal offices to view?

I have just had a look at the map and a row of houses in Brookford park will be very close to the yard. If I am reading the map correctly HGVs will enter behind 29 to 35.

The trollies they use are lighter than the ones we use in An Post and are noiser when pushed on concrete but with the conditions this should not be a major problem. But I would watch them like a hawk.

The map used, if its the same as was used in planning is a little misleading as it does not show Brookford Park and Brookford is just a building site and I wonder if this could have been used to Tesco's advantage? Me being cynical!!

Good work and info N.C.Ds very own Investigation branch Bluetonic and Corsendonk.

Corsendonk

dan_d wrote: »

If it's a small enough store, deliveries may not be during the night, but begin at 5.30am. There's a similar situation in Ridgewood in Swords, where there's a Tesco Extra with apartments on top and all around. There's signs all over the delivery areas about keeping quiet, and deliveries are not allowed before 5am (I think). Trucks are also not allowed to wait around in the yard before 5am with their engines idling.

Tesco Express in Ridgewood, the one in Balbriggan is an Extra. Express are just cornershops, Supermarket with 115 spaces that someone previouly mentioned would certainly have more deliveries than Ridgewood. Actually they would take in more stock in 2 days what Ridgewood would take in a week.

dan_d

Woops.My mistake, sorry! However the point about the delivery set-up in Ridgewood still stands.

Interesting to see that the map of the site in question (the photo) is old - there were no houses behind the site at that stage.....

Martron

got leaflet in the door today informing us of works and a layout of the site.

no too bad. looks like the service yard is backing on to the estate but the brder will be landscaped . so hopefully will be alright visual and eventually acoustically.

LeoB

So the are going to access that service yard from Park Rd, where the recently put up that green fense?

Corsendonk

Martron wrote: »

got leaflet in the door today informing us of works and a layout of the site.

no too bad. looks like the service yard is backing on to the estate but the brder will be landscaped . so hopefully will be alright visual and eventually acoustically.

Could a 40ft drive in and swing about in the service yard? Or would they have to back in from the road?

Martron

judging by the picture the entrance into the whole complex is thrgh a road which will be located where the existing gate into that old yard is now.

i tried scanning the picture but my scanner has not got enough resolution to pick it up.

anyway its hard to tell fro the scale of it but to give you a rough idea the service yard is about 50% the size of the finished building so i would imagine there is plenty of room to manuever a truck in and out without having to reverse in.

( besides from my experience of construction and purpose built building is that they will try and design it that un safe practices like reversing a truck in off a road is negated by safe design and proper traffic management. )

judging from the picture again there is not vivible scale on it but from what i can make out from the car park size etc etc its not bigger than the aldi in balbriggan. ( or if anyone know the teso in kinnegad i would imagine its a very similar size to that)

Bluetonic

The complete drawings, dimensions etc.., are all in the planning link I posted. No need for guess work!

Bluetonic

I did this mock up for you to scale to compare it to Lidl in Balbriggan, show Lidl, the site in Rush, and the plans overlaid the site all to the same approx scale (the site plans are a tiny bit larger)

Looks like plenty of parking space and a well laid out site.

jackiexx

Does anybody know when they will be starting to interview for jobs,Its just down the road from us and my boyfriend is interested in applying?

LeoB

jackiexx wrote: »

Does anybody know when they will be starting to interview for jobs,Its just down the road from us and my boyfriend is interested in applying?

They are due to open in Mid November this year so I would say phone their H.R Dept and they should be able to give you details

TangyZizzle

jackiexx wrote: »

Does anybody know when they will be starting to interview for jobs,Its just down the road from us and my boyfriend is interested in applying?

Ring Tesco to try and learn about the shop opening down the road and you're wired through to some fella in India.. I did it.

I asked for the number for the HR, he wouldn't give me it and asked if he could help me. I asked when they would begin recruiting for the shop, he said 6 weeks before opening. So I assume Novemberish.

rpurfield

theyll set up a recruitment office somewhere thats what they did in balbriggan

rubberdiddies

I'm not very familiar with Rush and the type and quantity of shops there currently. If this is not a Tesco express then I would expect several current shops to close down over the next 2 to 5 years as a direct result of this store.

Whilst initially a good thing for consumers, it will have a negative impact on other traders in the town which will eventually lead to empty units etc.

Obviously this is all just my opinion but based on what I've seen in other towns when a tesco has opened up, albeit a large tesco

GGirl2010

When does it open. They hiring .

LeoB

rubberdiddies wrote: »

I'm not very familiar with Rush and the type and quantity of shops there currently. If this is not a Tesco express then I would expect several current shops to close down over the next 2 to 5 years as a direct result of this store.

Whilst initially a good thing for consumers, it will have a negative impact on other traders in the town which will eventually lead to empty units etc.

Obviously this is all just my opinion but based on what I've seen in other towns when a tesco has opened up, albeit a large tesco

I Think your bang on there. Centra IS going late October from what I hear and I have heard another large store will not be re newing the lease. This could lead to a right mess when it opens unless they provide proper jobs for locals and dont exploit cheap labour.

Two things come to mind
1) People have a choice whether they shop there or not.
2) Will people be prepared to picket for jobs to stay local?

I see they have signs up in fields around Rush saying this crop is being grown for Tesco and they are supporting local growers, as someone said to me "at what fckn price"

TangyZizzle

Ask the Fermers.

TangyZizzle

There's a sign that says 'your local tesco will be opening in 10 weeks' up now

Corsendonk

Should be interesting in the mornings

AA Roadwatch

ROADWORKS* * Chapel Green Rd onto Whitestown Rd in Rush will close to facilitate construction works until Wed 19th Oct. Alternative routes will be available. * Park Lane is closed onto Upper Main St in Rush for works until Mon 7th Nov. Alternative routes are available via Hayestown Rd, Old Rd, Millbank and Whitestown Rd.

Martron

well the park road diversion would work fine if people just waited for the traffic lights.

other than that that diversion is not too bad.... however its probably the only choice for that road without having to drive halway to skerries.

Khannie

rubberdiddies wrote: »

I'm not very familiar with Rush and the type and quantity of shops there currently. If this is not a Tesco express then I would expect several current shops to close down over the next 2 to 5 years as a direct result of this store.

Whilst initially a good thing for consumers, it will have a negative impact on other traders in the town which will eventually lead to empty units etc.

Obviously this is all just my opinion but based on what I've seen in other towns when a tesco has opened up, albeit a large tesco

This is standard for large stores in smaller towns all around the world. Large company comes in and runs at a loss for a while, wipe out the competition, then prices go up. Wal-Mart are infamous for it.

GGirl2010

Hi anyone know the contact number to this new tesco and how to apply for job opening, is it a case of drop down and submit cv, or online, hard to find online links.?? Thank you.

Ggirl2010

TangyZizzle

Drop down where? The building isn't near complete

Either ring Tesco and get the details or drive by and take note of the details that are posted on the boards around the site.

Corsendonk

Khannie wrote: »

This is standard for large stores in smaller towns all around the world. Large company comes in and runs at a loss for a while, wipe out the competition, then prices go up. Wal-Mart are infamous for it.

How come it got planning then?

ToyotaCorolla

Corsendonk , did you really ask how come they got planning? Im not saying I agree totally with Khannies point but seriously cop on.

Many local people have been refused the opportunity to build a house on their own land or alter their existing home by the council while at the same time developers where given carte blanche to build hundreds of homes half of which sit derelict as we speak -Golden Ridge prime example. When it comes to planning Fingal Council are cowboys

Corsendonk

ToyotaCorolla wrote: »

Corsendonk , did you really ask how come they got planning? Im not saying I agree totally with Khannies point but seriously cop on.

Many local people have been refused the opportunity to build a house on their own land or alter their existing home by the council while at the same time developers where given carte blanche to build hundreds of homes half of which sit derelict as we speak -Golden Ridge prime example. When it comes to planning Fingal Council are cowboys

Yes I did, if you have a problem with people asking fair questions move to Syria. My point is people complain about how these supermarket developments wipe out town centres but the planning authorities give them permission all around the world. Why? Are they all corrupt and stupid? Some may be but its because the citizens who complain about them will be found queuing outside Tesco when it opens because they offer what the customer wants. So less of the slander against FCC unless you have some actual information about cowboy practices then I suggest you go to the proper authorities.

ToyotaCorolla

Work in the council do we Corsedonk :rolleyes:

From reading your previous posts in other threads, Id say if Fingal Council allowed a nuclear power station to be erected in Rush you'd be on here defending the proposal to the hilt and telling everyone to stop standing in the way of progress

LeoB

Corsendonk wrote: »

How come it got planning then?

Good question. Surely the people in Fingal who live among us, (I think) would know the effect its going to have on the community. They were hardly driven by the fees from road opening licences?

Corsendonk wrote: »

Yes I did, if you have a problem with people asking fair questions move to Syria. .

I tried to ask someone in Fingal about this and got fobbed off, my fault for getting fobbed off..

Corsendonk wrote: »

My point is people complain about how these supermarket developments wipe out town centres but the planning authorities give them permission all around the world. Why? Are they all corrupt and stupid? Some may be but its because the citizens who complain about them will be found queuing outside Tesco when it opens because they offer what the customer wants. So less of the slander against FCC unless you have some actual information about cowboy practices then I suggest you go to the proper authorities.

While I would not call Fingal corrupt I would question their wisdom in giving planning for this. I really fear for Rush in 5 years time. Khannie I think could be bang on re the Wallmart style of operating and I would worry for the growers who are supplying them at present as to how they will be treated in the long run.

Fully agree with Corsondonk some of the people complaining about them now will be first in the line for special offers. I hope I never have to go in. My wife does the shopping and hopefully she wont go in either!! We dont subscribe to the Syrian way of life so she will decide where she shops!! Once my slippers, paper and dinner are ready for 5.43 every evening!!!!! Thats a joke before you ladies hammer me on here.

Corsendonk

ToyotaCorolla wrote: »

Work in the council do we Corsedonk :rolleyes:

From reading your previous posts in other threads, Id say if Fingal Council allowed a nuclear power station to be erected in Rush you'd be on here defending the proposal to the hilt and telling everyone to stop standing in the way of progress

Think whatever you want if you wish to continue the childish personal attacks since it proves you haven't an ounce of proof about your wild accusations.:rolleyes: If you would like to open your mind BBC Radio is running an interesting documentary at the moment about how its so easy for people to be so cynical about politics and how the internet has bred a generation of haters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0150mt8/In_Defence_of_Politics_Episode_1/

martinn123

Tesco are percieved throughout UK, and |Ireland as a predatory co, in the way they conduct business.

I agree they will open, force smaller shops to close, and them increase prices.

This week they announced a BIG PRICE DROP, claiming an investment of 500M STG

http://www.kamcity.com/namnews/asp/newsarticle.asp?newsid=61736&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+namnews-kamcity+%28NamNews+-+Latest+Grocery+Retail+News%29

in reality they are changing the value of Bonus Points, reducing by 50%, so giving with one hand, taking away with the other.

All Local authorities have rolled over in Planning Applications, thats not to say they are all corrupt, but Development Charges, Fees, donations to local charities and Residents Groups usually carry the day.

Local Managment in Ireland are said to be in turmoil, over business practises, every decision is imposed from UK, ask any supplier who invested, and then lost the business how they work,
last Xmas they cut the price of Sprouts for xmas by 50%, how .....by taking 50% off the grower, so the biggest market, Xmas , for sprouts was wiped out for growers.
Ask Dublin/Meath Suppiers who invested heavily, only to loose the Veg Contract, overnight.

And yes, shoppers will queue for bargains, more's the pity.

Ask anyone in Retail what they think of Tesco, and stand well back.

ToyotaCorolla

Wild accusations !! Im stating something very obvious im hardly breaking an enron style scandal here!

I notice you didnt answer my question about working for the council or having a vested interest:)

Corsendonk

ToyotaCorolla wrote: »

Corsendonk , did you really ask how come they got planning? Im not saying I agree totally with Khannies point but seriously cop on.

Many local people have been refused the opportunity to build a house on their own land or alter their existing home by the council while at the same time developers where given carte blanche to build hundreds of homes half of which sit derelict as we speak -Golden Ridge prime example. When it comes to planning Fingal Council are cowboys

Proof? Contacted your elected officials with your proof/concerns or the garda? Guess not only pub talk and gossip.

ToyotaCorolla wrote: »

Work in the council do we Corsedonk :rolleyes:

From reading your previous posts in other threads, Id say if Fingal Council allowed a nuclear power station to be erected in Rush you'd be on here defending the proposal to the hilt and telling everyone to stop standing in the way of progress

You obviously never read my thread on FCC "where did all the money go" Why if I worked in the council would I start a thread titled that and I also was accused in that thread of being too harsh on the council. Come on must try harder or are you working on the principle of slinging enough mud and it might stick ? You do know there is a conspiracey theory forum here perhaps you should move your talents to there.

Wild accusations !! Im stating something very obvious im hardly breaking an enron style scandal here!

I notice you didnt answer my question about working for the council or having a vested interest

Your accusing FFC planning of being cowboys. So no one else was responsible for Goldenridge? I might add whilst not of the value of the Enron scandal its a quite substantial sum of money involved in that site when you add the land price and house prices together. If cowboy practices allegedly happened there it should be the result of an investigation?

What is a vested interest to you? I did earlier state in this thread I did own some Tesco shares but anyone of us that have a pension could be accussed of having a vested interest in companies like Tesco or Shell etc

The Hill Billy

Hi folks - can I just ask for a bit of restraint here. A couple of posts have been a bit heated. Stick to the facts & don't let it get personal. Attack the post - not the poster.

Thanks,

tHB

martinn123

GGirl2010 wrote: »

Hi anyone know the contact number to this new tesco and how to apply for job opening, is it a case of drop down and submit cv, or online, hard to find online links.?? Thank you.

Ggirl2010

There is an email address on the hoarding facing the church, to submit CV's. Passed it today,

SpatialPlanner

martinn123 wrote: »

There is an email address on the hoarding facing the church, to submit CV's. Passed it today,

This is a press release I got by email. It might be helpful.

News release…..

Date: 29th September 2011


Recruitment open for new Tesco Rush Store

Tesco today announced that its recruitment centre in Rush, North County Dublin is open to applications, with approximately 70 positions to be filled prior to the opening of the new store later this year.

The 70 positions will be based across the store operations and will include General Assistant, Customer Assistant and Team Leader positions. The application process is open to anyone aged 16 or over and will close on October 14th.

The recruitment centre is based in the Community Centre, Main Street, Rush. For further details please contact Tesco Rush Recruitment Centre on 089 4112654 or at tesco.rush@tesco.ie

Ends

premdelap11

I sent my CV a couple of days ago and I was shocked to get a call back yesterday,The lady on the line asked what hours would suit me and all she also said someone would get back to me.Could this mean that I'm being considered for the job?!