Klitschko-Haye in doubt yet again, Press conferences cancelled....

richierichballs

From the Guardian.

David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko have cancelled press conferences in Hamburg and London next week because "there are still issues to be resolved" – although a Haye source says the world heavyweight unification fight set for 2 July is "not in jeopardy".

Texts from Hayemaker Promotions late on Saturday afternoon to Sky and their own operatives advising of the cancellation spread mild panic in the business, given the tortuous history between the two champions.

Adam Booth, Haye's trainer and manager, did not return calls but the fighter's press officer, Elliott Worsell, said he doubted the contest would be called off.

The fighters, who genuinely loathe each other, attended a press conference in New York on Tuesday and there were hints that the biggest heavyweight fight in nearly a decade still relied on a lot of mutual goodwill.

Klitschko, who holds the WBO and IBF versions of the title, said: "He signed the contract ... again," said Klitschko – a reference to Haye's withdrawing through injury from their first scheduled encounter nearly 18 months ago. "I will not believe the fight will happen until I see David Haye in the corner across from me. Thank God he's coming into the ring first."

Haye, the WBA champion, then criticized Klitschko for twice pulling out of defences against Dereck Chisora. "I'm as worried about whether he's going to show up as he is about whether I'm going to show up," Haye said.

But there was no indication that this amounted to anything more than pre-fight hype. A layer of mystery has been added to the melodrama now, whatever the assurances of the Haye camp.

Knew this fight was too good to be true, David Haye is such a fag seriously.

Rob113

From David Hayes twitter 3 hours ago -

david haye (@mrdavidhaye)
30/04/2011 22:23
The press conferences "pencilled" in for this week are now "penned" in for next week!!! - the fight is 100% ON!!!!

ebbsy

It will go ahead. Too much money involved.

clubwelly

I think this is over ticket allocation now. It's def one of these fights I won't believe it will happen until both reach the ring.

gene_tunney

It's happening folks.

Haye pulled out last time so the fight would be more hyped this time I think. Anyone else going?

WAR WLAD!

Headshot

lol

what a press conference

CorkMan

I think it will be some fight. I've a feeling some people think Wladimir will be KO'd by the great David Haye, he has a weak chin and has fought weak opposition, has not proved himself, etc.

But I think the 2 fighters will really test each other and it will be the flip of a coin to decide the winner. Both 2 good fighters at their peaks.

Kaneda_

Off topic but i didnt want to start a new thread...

Would you reckon david haye drinks alcohol or not?

Random question i know!

cowzerp

Kaneda_ wrote: »

Off topic but i didnt want to start a new thread...

Would you reckon david haye drinks alcohol or not?

Random question i know!

Out of training camps Id say he has a drink, doubt he's a heavy drinker though, ps. This is not a 50-50 fight, Haye was scared to go at Harrison! so what will he be like with wlad, punchers chance is all I give him.

Remmy

This is one of them anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjmyityrZi4

The Davestator

cowzerp wrote: »

Out of training camps Id say he has a drink, doubt he's a heavy drinker though, ps. This is not a 50-50 fight, Haye was scared to go at Harrison! so what will he be like with wlad, punchers chance is all I give him.

Ill put a sneaky 20 on a Haye knockout with ya Paul... well?

cowzerp

The Davestator wrote: »

Ill put a sneaky 20 on a Haye knockout with ya Paul... well?

Done, and ya better pay up!!

Boooourns

This is a real hard one to call but there's decent odds on Haye to win by K.O(2/1) and Wlad to win on points (10/3).

Ash.J.Williams

klitchko was entertaining in that clip of the press conference!!

Dempsey

If Haye really thought he was a fraud, I think he would have been more disrespectful when Wlad was interacting with him.

Daroxtar

cowzerp wrote: »

Out of training camps Id say he has a drink, doubt he's a heavy drinker though, ps. This is not a 50-50 fight, Haye was scared to go at Harrison! so what will he be like with wlad, punchers chance is all I give him.

I heard him say before that he's a teetotaller.

Jayob10

Christ, Haye isn't half as brash when Wladimir is in his face is he?

That press conference was quite strange, this isn't the version of Wlad that Haye had built up in his head, witty, cocky, and dying to take the piss out of him.

Haye was hoping for the cold approach by Wlad, and already Haye looks a little rattled going by that display

Frank Bullitt

Klitschko is great in these press conferences, can see him just jabbing all night and stopping him late on.

Boooourns

Anyone else think that Wlad looks like a complete tool in these, he hasn't a funny bone in his body. He's like an embarrassing Dad when he tries to be funny.
I'm not saying Haye is funny but watching Wlad is pretty cringy.

colly10

Boooourns wrote: »

Anyone else think that Wlad looks like a complete tool in these, he hasn't a funny bone in his body. He's like an embarrassing Dad when he tries to be funny.
I'm not saying Haye is funny but watching Wlad is pretty cringy.

I actually find him fairly entertaining, I like how relaxed he comes across and I think it's getting to haye that he's not getting wound up. He knows that once he steps foot in the ring, the rubbish talked before won't matter. He has said Haye is a talented boxer and will be training like he's fighting a top fighter

Kess73

I'm just waiting for Haye to hurt his back or one of his hands in training.

Boooourns

colly10 wrote: »

I actually find him fairly entertaining, I like how relaxed he comes across and I think it's getting to haye that he's not getting wound up. He knows that once he steps foot in the ring, the rubbish talked before won't matter. He has said Haye is a talented boxer and will be training like he's fighting a top fighter

Yeah i'm always entertained by him but in a car crash television kind of way. Was it Wlad that had the entrance with the footage of himself and Ali before his last fight? and then you have the woeful rock bands that play music for them.
The Klitchkos are pure entertainment for me but for the wrong reason, they're the boxing version of the Eurovision contest, although i wouldn't say it to their face.

nacho libre

colly10 wrote: »

I actually find him fairly entertaining, I like how relaxed he comes across and I think it's getting to haye that he's not getting wound up. He knows that once he steps foot in the ring, the rubbish talked before won't matter. He has said Haye is a talented boxer and will be training like he's fighting a top fighter

Yes he's far too wise to let Haye's mind games unsettle him. As you say Klitschko seems the more naturally of ease of the two.
I think Haye hopes by trying to wind up Klitschko, about being boring, that he'll abandon his usual fighting style. Perhaps, for all the trash talk, Haye knows deep down if Klitschko fights in the usual way that he's really up against it.

nacho libre

Kess73 wrote: »

I'm just waiting for Haye to hurt his back or one of his hands in training.

The same. I won't believe this fight is really happening till the two of them are actually in the ring.

gene_tunney

IMO Wladimir has come across very well in these press conferences. He's actually pretty funny and comes across as a very likeable guy in a lot of these new interviews. It's also pretty clear that he's a gentleman who respects his opponents and doesn't feel the need to slur them prior to fights, unlike Haye.

Wlad has broken up with his girlfriend, Hayden Panetteire, citing that it was too hard to maintain a long distance relationship as the reason. Apparently they remain friends. Hopefully this won't affect Wlad's performance.

Wlad KO9 Haye

cowzerp

So far Wlad totally owns Haye!!

His iq is just on a different level..

walshb

Haye is playing the bad guy, and Wlad, the good guy, and Wlad IMO is pulling it off better. He seems the more calm and confident guy. Haye is just trying too hard I feel.

Johner

Haye is an absolute tool, slagging Wlad saying he sounds like Borat on ringside.:rolleyes: How many languages can you speak Haye. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to see Haye get sparked out.

Kerrydude1981

Klitschko seems very relaxed and enjoying the build up to the fight,"Shake the magic hand"

Cork24

press conference was sh**ty him self at that press conference, I hope Klitschko does some damage to him, he is like a machine when hes fighting now stop attack attack.

he is by far the most Down to Earth Boxer i ever seen, but you dont want to f((k with him i say he kill you with 1 punch

gene_tunney

Hopefully Wlad shatters Haye's fragile mandible in devastating fashion.

Spazdarn

For the sake of the division I need Haye to win, but every moral fibre in my body says Haye is a tosser and should get smashed.

Boooourns

ToiletFusion wrote: »

For the sake of the division I need Haye to win, but every moral fibre in my body says Haye is a tosser and should get smashed.

Yep totally agree, Haye is a twat but he's great for the division and he's bringing the athleticisim back into the weight.
If Wlad wins the division is dead for a few more years, it needs fresh blood badly! Although in saying that, isn't Haye looking to retire in October, personally i think that's bull and he'll get bigger payout when he fights again.
Wlad is not good to watch, his tactic of throwing a jab and then stepping back to avoid getting hit ridiculously frustrating as he has the power especially in the right to finish fights earlier. In his last fight even Steward was in his corner pleading him to throw the right to finish the fight, round after round Steward would nearly scream at him to get the job done as Wlad was stinking the place out.

corny

Boooourns wrote: »

Yep totally agree, Haye is a twat but he's great for the division and he's bringing the athleticisim back into the weight.
If Wlad wins the division is dead for a few more years, it needs fresh blood badly! Although in saying that, isn't Haye looking to retire in October, personally i think that's bull and he'll get bigger payout when he fights again.
Wlad is not good to watch, his tactic of throwing a jab and then stepping back to avoid getting hit ridiculously frustrating as he has the power especially in the right to finish fights earlier. In his last fight even Steward was in his corner pleading him to throw the right to finish the fight, round after round Steward would nearly scream at him to get the job done as Wlad was stinking the place out.

His conservative style makes me think Wlad on points 100/30 is a huge price.

Hate all this nonsense build up with the forced animosity.

gene_tunney

How is Haye winning good for the division if he's retiring at the end of the year?

I appreciate that Wlad is boring but I enjoy his fights. I enjoy any god technical boxers, Wlad has a beautiful jab, defends well, and has a right hand like an ESB pole.

I'd prefer to see Wlad win, clean out Chisora, then maybe have 1 or 2 fights and retire.

Spazdarn

That's if you believe he's going to retire I suppose. I think If he beat Wlad he'd surely take a crack at Vitali after, and he'd probably retire after that, though a fight with Adamek would bring in serious money by then I'd imagine.

Wlad definitely worries about his chin, I don't think he was half as conservative in his early fights.

walshb

I agree with gene. I don't see how Haye winning will change much. He has yet to impress me at heavyweight. Who has he beat? Looked very ordinary against a past it and already terrible John Ruiz. Haye isn't some young "Mike Tyson" exploding onto the scene and destroying everyone. He is one of the current crop of very ordinary heavyweights. I mean ordinary in the sense
that none are great heavies.

whaaames

walshb wrote: »

I agree with gene. I don't see how Haye winning will change much. He has yet to impress me at heavyweight. Who has he beat? Looked very ordinary against a past it and already terrible John Ruiz. Haye isn't some young "Mike Tyson" exploding onto the scene and destroying everyone. He is one of the current crop of very ordinary heavyweights. I mean ordinary in the sense
that none are great heavies.

+1

They're very good fighters but they're not great, Haye, Wlad & Vitali are the best of whats about and should rightly hold the belts if nobody can take them away, but NONE are close to great...

Boooourns

I think Vitali would have been a possible great if there was other good fighters around. If Lewis is considered a great (and he was), Vitali gave him a massive scare in their fight until his cut eye got too bad and his other loss was because of a shoulder injury. Brilliant chin and very strong, he's only starting to look vunerable now at 39 and beats his Brother 10 out of 10 times.
There's a good reason Haye avoids him like the plague.

Boooourns

ToiletFusion wrote: »

That's if you believe he's going to retire I suppose. I think If he beat Wlad he'd surely take a crack at Vitali after, and he'd probably retire after that, though a fight with Adamek would bring in serious money by then I'd imagine..

Yeah i agree, i don't believe Haye when he mentions retirement. I think he's using what Mayweather does, that people offer him more money to fight again.

walshb

Boooourns wrote: »

I think Vitali would have been a possible great if there was other good fighters around. If Lewis is considered a great (and he was), Vitali gave him a massive scare in their fight until his cut eye got too bad and his other loss was because of a shoulder injury. Brilliant chin and very strong, he's only starting to look vunerable now at 39 and beats his Brother 10 out of 10 times.
There's a good reason Haye avoids him like the plague.

Lewis was a few years past his best days when Vitali met him

But, Vitali is a very good fighter, or was. Big, tough, strong and durable. Yes, he could make it in other eras possibly.

Boooourns

walshb wrote: »

Lewis was a few years past his best days when Vitali met him

But, Vitali is a very good fighter, or was. Big, tough, strong and durable. Yes, he could make it in other eras possibly.

Yeah Lewis was at his heaviest as well so it's a pity Vitali didn't win that as Lewis always came back in great shape to avenge his losses. Vitali was winning on all the scorecards.

Frank Bullitt

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/13357472.stm

How can you not like this guy?

Boooourns

Gintonious wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/13357472.stm

How can you not like this guy?

Have you seen him box?

Actually what he's doing is clever enough, he's come across as the nice guy and making Haye look like a tool in his own country.

Dempsey

Looks like Haye wants to talk Klitschko out of his usual style rather than say play your normal style and you'll get beat. Klitschko seems to have more confidence in his style of boxing than Haye does in his. I'm not convinced that Haye believes what he is saying to the media is true. Thats the vibe I'm getting from these press conferences.

colly10

I'm starting to get a little worried by these press conferences to be honest.

I've been sitting back waiting for the Sky Sports hype machine to tell anyone who'll listen that Haye is one of the greatest ever so i'll get great odds on Wlad closer to the fight, so far it's just not happening and i'm not seeing real confidence in Haye.

Before the Audley fight I was going for 9/1 ko in the second, third and 4th but didn't get to the bookies on time, some people on here even believed Audley had a good shot after watching the build up

Frank Bullitt

Boooourns wrote: »

Have you seen him box?

Actually what he's doing is clever enough, he's come across as the nice guy and making Haye look like a tool in his own country.

I have nothing against how he boxes, its a thinking mans sport, all this crap of Haye wanting to be "ferocious" and all that, he is a business man.

Kiltcshko doesn't care how people see him box, he is too disciplined for that and far too intelligent to get dragged into a war of words. He plays the strategy game, does what he has to do, the days of a "Tyson-esque" display are well gone in the HW division, that was probably the only time it was truly exciting.

Hatchet89

Does anybody know anything about tickets for the fight? Are they still available and if so at what the price range? Would make a great birthday present!

jester77

Hatchet89 wrote: »

Does anybody know anything about tickets for the fight? Are they still available and if so at what the price range? Would make a great birthday present!

Tickets still available here.

Tickets from here will be mostly Klitschko fans. The €130 tickets or anything over should give a decent view although slime pickings now.

I don't know where Haye's tickets are being promoted so you may get a better selection from his promoters.

Jayob10

cracking HBO face off here. Haye's bullsh*t is wearing thin on Wlad and uncharacteristically he is genuinely looking pretty p*ssed off.

Boooourns

I think Haye done a great job there, he's wound Wlad up no end.