Kingstar stoves?

lunacyfoundme

Anyone know anything or have a Kingstar high efficiency multi fuel inset stove. Im trying to decide between stove and open fire. I seen an 8kw Kingstar in action and theres serious heat out of it. The price I was quoted was about €1300 for the stove only. Is that dear for a stove of this type?

Im thinking Id probably make it back in a few years burning the cheap recycled firelogs which seem to burn really well in them.

Brandy1

Yes, I was considering doing the same thing. We are trying to heat our kitchen/TV room and seen these in the showroom and they throw out some serious heat but cannot find any reviews for them - do you know if they are new?

lunacyfoundme

As far as I know they are fairly new to the market. I wasn’t even going to get a stove because I thought they only came in the old country styles (which doesn’t suit my living room). Then I went to a guy who does fireplaces and he had one set up in his showroom. The 8kw Elm insert model seems to generate a serious amount of heat. I don’t like a very hot room myself and the heat produced was nearly unbearable so he had to turn it down. In fairness it was burning all day so it would have been quite hot but, he was burning very little fuel (a couple of recycled logs).

I think all the Kingstar stoves are multi fuel stoves but don’t quote me on that. I’ll probably only used the recycled logs though because they burn down to a fine cinder and can be cleaned out using an ash vac to save dirt and mess in the room (you can get these in Woodies or Dunnes for very little).

I emailed about 30 places that do the Elm and got replies from about 15. Almost all quoted €1,590 including VAT. I’m getting both the stove and a fireplace from the same guy (Gary Murphy, Dundalk) and its costing €2,500. He quoted me €1,250 for the fireplace on its own so I presume he’s doing the stove ex VAT.

It should be installed in the next week or two so if I remember I’ll update with a review of how it works out.

Luellen08

Hi Lunacyfoundme, just wondering how you are getting on with your stove? We are looking at the same stove King Star Elm 8kw for our sitting room (5m x 5m). Do you think the heat output would be too much for that size room? How do you find the heat control on it? Thanks.

lunacyfoundme

Forgot to update this thread when I got it installed. The stove is running great, only lit it a few times cause my house is very warm anyway. My living room is also 5m x 5m and the heat out of the stove is more than enough for the room in my opinion. Had it running at full pelt twice and had to turn it down as it was too hot for me.

The control is fairly good, its just one pull/pull slider but it works well and you can instantly turn the fire up and down.

Im only burning small sticks and recycled logs and they burn down to a fine ash which drops through the grate so I dont need to clean it out before relighting.

Have no qualms over the money spent on it and would get it again.

tdiman

Hi folks,

Recently had one of these 8kw inset stoves installed. Great heat using good dry sticks and coal, but can anyone help with one little problem we have. Every time we open the door to add coal or sticks, we get a puff of smoke out of it, that leaves the room very smokey. We've tried leaving it until the fire dies down, when it is going fairly lively, when the damper is open / closed - no joy. Any help from anyone using one?

lunacyfoundme

This may sound stupidly obvious but have you cleaned it out? Recently Ive started to get this happen on occasion, to the point where the smoke would nt go up the chimney at all and would billow out if I opened the door. When it happens I let it die down and ash vac hover out the whole thing. When I light it again it seems fine.

Im not sure if its burning the surrounding ash causing smoke or if theres not enough draw through it. If you figure it out let me know.

Al b

Hi lunacyfoundme, I am new to boards. Your fire looks lovely. Can you tell me if it burns much wood. Any pictures I see always appear to have a big flame, does this mean it burns wood alot quicker than a standard stove or open fire?

lunacyfoundme wrote: »

Forgot to update this thread when I got it installed. The stove is running great, only lit it a few times cause my house is very warm anyway. My living room is also 5m x 5m and the heat out of the stove is more than enough for the room in my opinion. Had it running at full pelt twice and had to turn it down as it was too hot for me.

The control is fairly good, its just one pull/pull slider but it works well and you can instantly turn the fire up and down.

Im only burning small sticks and recycled logs and they burn down to a fine ash which drops through the grate so I dont need to clean it out before relighting.

Have no qualms over the money spent on it and would get it again.

Pfreeman

I am considering installing an insert stove and I am following with interest this thread. I am concerned about smoke when opening door. Can anyone advise if the stove is suitable for burning turf.

lunacyfoundme

As far as I know it burns everything even coal. I just used the recycled wood logs because you can easily rake the ash into the tray. Saves constant cleaning out. The smoke thing I think only happens when the ash tray gets full. Probably bad air flow.

kjoyce

Hi, just got the elm stove installed. Used it for the first time today (used some sticks, firelighters and flamers) and the whole interior got black :eek:
Not sure what I did wrong. I tried to wipe it clean with a damp cloth but it doesn't really come off. I'm really dissapointed with this. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

lunacyfoundme

That happens at the start. You need to break the stove in a bit. Dont bother wiping the soot off, just keep lighting the fire. Once the air gets circulating properly and the fire starts lighting up it will burn away all the black soot. Make sure the flu is fully open and burn clean burning stuff like sticks and firelogs.

kjoyce

lunacyfoundme, Thank you so much. I couldn't find that info anywhere. I am so relieved! Thank you again!

gjc

Loving this thread some great ideas

Robbie.G

kjoyce wrote: »

Hi, just got the elm stove installed. Used it for the first time today (used some sticks, firelighters and flamers) and the whole interior got black :eek:
Not sure what I did wrong. I tried to wipe it clean with a damp cloth but it doesn't really come off. I'm really dissapointed with this. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Make sure there is a permanent open air vent in the room and also make sure you have a carbon monoxide alarm fitted

lunacyfoundme

Forgot to say, the first few times you light it make sure you leave windows open as there will be some fumes coming off the stove until it gets burned off.

runamile

Hello all...I'll post something on this soon, after I get more experience with using it. One point though, the person in Athlone who installed it for us and the (poor) user manual are very explicit about NOT using coal. It's apparently not necessary and could possibly be dangerous: too hot.

lunacyfoundme

Some stoves are wood burning only and some are multi fuel. Mine is multi fuel so I can burn coal if I want, but I've found that recycled wood logs are cheap and effective. If I burn two consecutively the room is so hot I have to open a window.

celiam

lunacyfoundme wrote: »

This may sound stupidly obvious but have you cleaned it out? Recently Ive started to get this happen on occasion, to the point where the smoke would nt go up the chimney at all and would billow out if I opened the door. When it happens I let it die down and ash vac hover out the whole thing. When I light it again it seems fine.

Im not sure if its burning the surrounding ash causing smoke or if theres not enough draw through it. If you figure it out let me know.

I wish my ash vac worked as well as yours. Only used mine twice since i got it 2 years ago. gets clogged up after 2 seconds use

lunacyfoundme

You need to clean it out regularly or the smoke wont escape. As you say Im not sure if if a circulation problem or burning the ash but depending on the size of your ash tray Id clean it ever 2 or 3 times its been lit.

Slipshaney

Great thread guys. Just a few questions:

I'm thinking of getting the Holly stove, has anyone got this and what do they think?

Will the prices be reduced after Xmas?

Do I need to line the chimney? I live in a semi detached house, around 6 years old

lunacyfoundme

Have never heard of the Holly stove but i think whether you have to line it or not depends on the chimney and the stove. Best bet is contact an installer and get their advice to be sure.

Slipshaney

Thanks for that. Will have a serious look after Xmas

hollyandtobers

Brandy1 wrote: »

Yes, I was considering doing the same thing. We are trying to heat our kitchen/TV room and seen these in the showroom and they throw out some serious heat but cannot find any reviews for them - do you know if they are new?

i also viewed this inset ,however i decided against it as it does not have convection. My fitter advised me to make sure to install an insert that had an inbuilt convection system for safety .

JOSman

Hi all,

How are you all getting on with your wood burners and any advice for somebody thinking of getting one? Are they worth the expense of installing and cost of running?

Thanks

pbk

Hello, I have an Kingstar Elm, great machine, To stop the smoke when opening door, just open little, wait a few seconds and open fully, that will sort smoke problem,, I bought my ELM for €1000

pbk

Hello, I have an Kingstar Elm, great machine, To stop the smoke when opening door, just open little, wait a few seconds and open fully, that will sort smoke problem,, I bought my ELM for €1000

lunacyfoundme wrote: »

Anyone know anything or have a Kingstar high efficiency multi fuel inset stove. Im trying to decide between stove and open fire. I seen an 8kw Kingstar in action and theres serious heat out of it. The price I was quoted was about €1300 for the stove only. Is that dear for a stove of this type?

Im thinking Id probably make it back in a few years burning the cheap recycled firelogs which seem to burn really well in them.

eeieonl

Hi Pbk,

Where did you buy your Kingstar ELM? We are looking at getting one but they are 1600 euro.

hifiman087

Greetings all!

We have just taken delivery and installation of our new Kingstar Elm stove from O Callaghan Fireplace's in Ballinhassig, Cork. First of all, the fitters were exceptional. Before that started the work, the fitter, Alun furnished me with his insurance certificate, which mentions that he is fully insured to fit a stove like this - properly!
He did a excellent job. He used a vacuum cleaner next to the drill when he had to drill the concrete. All in all, very tidy and truly professional.

Moving on…
Using the stove- we lit small fires with just kindling to begin. This is called the "bedding in" process.
After three nights, we were lighting fine proper fires. It gives out marvelous heat and heats all the ground floor of the house. I think that is because- we have two double doors off this room, one to the hall and the other to the kitchen.
The total cost was 2.5k, including a new black granite hearth and insert. All advice given by O' Callaghan's was professional and most helpful. Highly recommended!

bauderline

Any folks who installed this stove how do you find it a few years on, still happy with it ?

BR Peter.

lunacyfoundme

Everything still working fine. Had no problems with it at all. Have it about 3 years.

Luellen08

We have ours nearly 3 yes now ( kingstar elm) and the heat from it is fantastic, nearly too hot sometimes! Would definitely recommend it.
We've gotten used to cleaning the glass after every use, only takes a minute with damp non abrasive cloth and buff with newspaper. If we leave it uncleaned for few uses, its very difficult to clean.
Always pull out damper fully before u open door and you won't get smoke billowing out.

Enjoy!

JOSman wrote: »

Hi all,

How are you all getting on with your wood burners and any advice for somebody thinking of getting one? Are they worth the expense of installing and cost of running?

Thanks

Sanchez83

King star buy the Elm from Thorma/Kratki in Poland to the best of my knowledge.
I think it says Valencja on the back of the Elm stove.
So if you are in the market for the Elm you would probably be better off buying the Thorma/Kratki as cutting out the middle man makes the same product cheaper.

gooseygander

anybody using this stove with an external air supply fitted, and how do they perform with mhrv, any info would be great, dealers say they suit airtight houses but they would tell me that anyway I suppose. many thanks

Ionut

Hi... I am interested installing the Elm stove as well... do U know the price+installation?

youngblood

Currently debating the 4-12kw Elm stove Vs Henley Apollo 7kw

Any recommendations above the other?
Double doors to kitchen & door to hall off sitting room 6m x 4m

49801

Any Elm owners any regrets?

Looking to convert our fire place to insert stove in a 5x5m room with double doors to hallway. Large windows in room too.

Primarily burning wood.

Like the look of it and has a larger firebox to take bigger logs than most stoves.

Putting deposit down shortly

Regards
49801

hero25

Hi ... have ELM in 2 years now in an open area with vaulted ceiling ... 5 x 5 opening into 6x7 ...effectively 1 large room. Very happy with the Elm's heat output. Your other heat source is also of course a factor in its performance. we have UFH so, often while the fire is on in the Elm, it's just for its effect and the atmosphere an "open" fire generates.

49801

Thanks
We have 1 big double radiator in room. In fairness it is well able to heat room too.

shambob12

Hi

Thinking of getting a kingstar elm stove, but the shop says I don't need an external vent. But every other shop we've been to is saying we need one at the back of the stove. This shop is saying its all done through the chimney? I've no idea.

Other shop has contura stove, Swedish, and does fit an external stove.

We just preferred the fireplace at the shop with the kingstar stove.

Any advice, recommendations greatly received. Thanks.

Forge83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182765#Comment_118182765

If your house is a new build it will require an external air connection. The Elm will not be suitable.

Contura are possibly the number 1 stove brand in the world, there is no comparison between the two brands. Fireplace designs are generally widely available in most shops, just bring a picture of it.

SUGS

Just looking for some advice...have narrowed the choices(and boy is there some choice) to two:

Elm stove - 2 year warranty which was disappointing however I really like the large glass and heat output however did note that the two on display had cracked thermal bricks(okay these can be replaced) and also rust on the bar which prevents logs falling out. Is this unusual?

Vitae 9 - have yet to see one in operation - good warranty at 5years. Anyone using this?

Thanks.

49801

Noticed ours not drafting well lately and looking for any tips of what to check.

will Check top fireproof board 1st.

will admit to cleaning out weekly rather than each use. Was thinking possibly ash built up underneath but not seeing anything with a torch. Not sure how to access open either.

Not swept the chimney this year but honestly not a bit in it last time round and only burn proper dry wood.