Time to declare a State of Emergency

henryporter

So the Irish Government have their hands tied no matter which way they turn - ECB/IMF are insisting that we pay our way out of the mess created by poor Governance, cowboy banking practices and so on, and the cost of running the country is out of control with the Public Service on salaries that have not been subjected to reverse benchmarking, and the social welfare bill spiralling as unemployment figures continue to increase (albeit that emigration is slowing it at the moment). We have semi-state companies and banks being run by people who feel that they are entitled to stick their hands in the till, Judges who refuse to voluntarily reduce their salaries and so on. Someone wants to buy Quinn Insurance off us for nothing and we, the tax payers have to cover any debts on the company. And still the Government does nothing.

Is there not a very simple solution to this problem: declare a State of Emergency; declare all public service contracts null and void and unlease savage cuts on those earning in excess of €100K, recall all bank bonus payments subjecting those who do not pay voluntarily to immediate custodial sentences for acts of treason, declare all acts of the previous Government illegal, including the handover of the Corrib Gas field to a private company.

What's stopping this from happening?

Cork boy 55

henryporter wrote: »

So the Irish Government have their hands tied no matter which way they turn - ECB/IMF are insisting that we pay our way out of the mess created by poor Governance, cowboy banking practices and so on, and the cost of running the country is out of control with the Public Service on salaries that have not been subjected to reverse benchmarking, and the social welfare bill spiralling as unemployment figures continue to increase (albeit that emigration is slowing it at the moment). We have semi-state companies and banks being run by people who feel that they are entitled to stick their hands in the till, Judges who refuse to voluntarily reduce their salaries and so on. Someone wants to buy Quinn Insurance off us for nothing and we, the tax payers have to cover any debts on the company. And still the Government does nothing.

Is there not a very simple solution to this problem: declare a State of Emergency; declare all public service contracts null and void and unlease savage cuts on those earning in excess of €100K, recall all bank bonus payments subjecting those who do not pay voluntarily to immediate custodial sentences for acts of treason, declare all acts of the previous Government illegal, including the handover of the Corrib Gas field to a private company.

What's stopping this from happening?

The legal profession, a class of vultures which has sucked the life blood out of the Ireland for there own personnel enrichment.

P. Breathnach

henryporter wrote: »

... What's stopping this from happening?

The fact that we live in a functioning democracy with a working legal system.

beeftotheheels

henryporter wrote: »

Is there not a very simple solution to this problem: declare a State of Emergency; declare all public service contracts null and void and unlease savage cuts on those earning in excess of €100K, recall all bank bonus payments subjecting those who do not pay voluntarily to immediate custodial sentences for acts of treason, declare all acts of the previous Government illegal, including the handover of the Corrib Gas field to a private company.

What's stopping this from happening?

Bunracht na hÉireann could prove a bit of a nuisance for a start, it defines treason in a way which requires the raising of arms against the State. It also has lots of pesky little provisions about protecting rights.

If we could get through the hurdles created by Bunreacht, we'd then have to navigate lots of pesky judge made rules like the rules of natural justice.

And having made our way through those, we'd still be left to deal with the bl00dy Europeans who are always sticking their noses in. Both the ECJ, where our actions breached EC law, and the European Court of Human Rights.

Spot on about Corrib. I think we should all shout loudly and demand answers as to why are we, the Irish people, expected to subsidize the Dutch Royal family in this way????

jumpguy

We don't need a State of Emergency, we just need a Thatcher.

caseyann

jumpguy wrote: »

We don't need a State of Emergency, we just need a Thatcher.

Keep your thatcher ;)and give me Michael Collins:cool: should knock a few teeth and ten shades of **** out of them stupid gombeens that call themselves intelligent.
I could run this country standing on my head juggling cars before they could even get off their asses and walk around their desk.



Its called protecting their wages and pensions and let everyone else suffer.
Sheriff of Nottingham and prince john eat your hearts out,here is true meaning of corruption using the laws for their sides.

jumpguy

caseyann wrote: »

Keep your thatcher ;)and give me Michael Collins:cool: should knock a few teeth and ten shades of **** out of them stupid gombeens that call themselves intelligent.

Erm, did Michael Collins have any particular involvement in defeating public sector unions back in the early 20th century?

voter1983

No. But who'd argue with him.

PeakOutput

henryporter wrote: »

What's stopping this from happening?

Sanity

edit: oh and the fact that none of things you suggest come close to solving any of our problems

jumpguy

voter1983 wrote: »

No. But who'd argue with him.

De Valera?

PeterIanStaker

We need another T.K. Whitaker, never mind Thatcher.

henryporter

PeakOutput wrote: »

Sanity

edit: oh and the fact that none of things you suggest come close to solving any of our problems

And why not - have you any better suggestions or are you just content to allow this disgraceful slow death of a nation to continue - soundbites like yours certainly won't get us anywhere

Inverse to the power of one!

We just need to get off our h*les and put in the hard work needed to fix the damn country!

That comes from all of us! From reforms, to taking reductions in pay, to not expecting the govt to do everything for us, to not suing every time we cut a finger, to even moaning a little less.

It won't happen now, I'm just hoping the coming generations hold us in the contempt we deserve and bring in a new era of Irish society that drags us away from our sorry outlook.

PeakOutput

henryporter wrote: »

as unemployment figures continue to increase

Someone wants to buy Quinn Insurance off us for nothing and we, the tax payers have to cover any debts on the company.

While I dont necessarily agree with bailing out Quinn how many jobs would be lost if it was allowed go to the wall? the idea of saving the company is not to bail quinn and the 'fat cats' out it is to save those peoples jobs

Is there not a very simple solution to this problem:

no

unlease savage cuts on those earning in excess of €100K

do you know how many people in the public service earn over 100K and how much money would be saved by cutting their wages?

recall all bank bonus payments subjecting those who do not pay voluntarily to immediate custodial sentences for acts of treason

This is were you really lose ALL credibility

including the handover of the Corrib Gas field to a private company.

there was no handover, there was a purchase of rights for exploration and drilling and we are going to tax their profits somewhere around the order of of 30-40%. If that agreement is made null and void,as you suggest, there is no drilling, there is no gas and there is no profits to tax from the sale of that gas and in case you hadn't noticed, the country has no money to do the drilling itself

What's stopping this from happening?

As I said in my soundbite, Sanity

Firefox11

We could call ourselves the celtic north Korea.

beeftotheheels

PeakOutput wrote: »

there was no handover, there was a purchase of rights for exploration and drilling and we are going to tax their profits somewhere around the order of of 30-40%. If that agreement is made null and void,as you suggest, there is no drilling, there is no gas and there is no profits to tax from the sale of that gas and in case you hadn't noticed, the country has no money to do the drilling itself

You mean that we are not subsidizing the Dutch royal family???

Seriously though, 25-40% is the actual tax range depending on the profitability of the field. Of course if S2S stop them getting the gas on shore, then they won't make any profits, so we won't get to levy any tax.