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Why I Want Schalke to Win the CL

  • 26-04-2011 7:07pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭


    You might not know it, but Schalke are the best supported German club. They are debt free, playing in a fabulous stadium paid for sensibly, with a team paid for in a wage controlled league with a spine of locally developed players.

    German football is the template all leagues should follow.

    - all clubs are 51% fan owned
    - they take risks on young players, whereas other leagues buy in all their talent to play it 'safe'
    - terracing is allowed as the fans behave themselves, even with beer
    - tickets are made affordable by law, as little as 12e for Bundesliga games
    - you never hear of German players, or non-Germans playing in the Bundesliga shagging each others wives, buying leopardskin Bentleys or pouring champagne on the floor of nightclubs.

    Its a breath of fresh air when their rival leagues are involved in 'financial doping' and oil billionaires inflating wages to farcical levels and see players who have never played a first team game are millionaires.

    In short, the prudential, community based approach deserves success at expense of the soap opera that is England or the crippling debt levels that are Spain or Italy.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Why aren't you watching them then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    So you might say that Germany is a "SuperPower" of sorts..:pac:
    Thats pretty contro


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    Fromvert wrote: »
    Why aren't you watching them then?

    I am....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    I like the timing:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    First result from a google of 'Schalke finances'
    If Schalke were a bank, clients would be queuing in the street to close their accounts and the wheelbarrows would be out en masse. Over the past year, total debts have increased 30 per cent to £136.5million, annual profits have collapsed (£11.5m to just £0.45m) and cash flow has slowed to a trickle, so much so that, according to former general manager Rudi Assauer – and he should know – the club are not paying wages on time...which is a capital offence in these parts....

    http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/schalke_are_walking_a_financial_tightrope_writes_nick_bidwell_features_290089.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't



    When was that....?

    Around the time they built their new ground maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    When was that....?

    Around the time they built their new ground maybe?

    I'm not disagreeing with your wider points on the German league, but Schalke have been in the headlines due to their precarious finances for the past few years now. Perhaps things have changed since in their favour but i doubt it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    - you never hear of German players, or non-Germans playing in the Bundesliga shagging each others wives, buying leopardskin Bentleys or pouring champagne on the floor of nightclubs.


    That's because they are too busy banging underage prostitutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    That's because they are too busy banging underage prostitutes.

    That would have been when they were on international duty, so somewhat irrelevant to the point I am making...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Schalke debt free, brilliant.

    and about the wives...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Some of your points aren't correct, but I understand what you're saying.

    German football is exactly what I want English football to be.

    Cheap tickets, fantastic atmospheres, very competitive leagues. It's fantastic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Epic thread.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    they are going out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Paully D wrote: »
    Some of your points aren't correct, but I understand what you're saying.

    German football is exactly what I want English football to be.

    Cheap tickets, fantastic atmospheres, very competitive leagues. It's fantastic.

    going by their first half performance there's no need to be missing out, you can get similar in your local park any sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    they are going out

    No way Man U will keep that level of intensity up.

    But the game thread is elsewhere, I'm more interested in the sustainability of German football and its community and fan based culture versus other large European leagues. In the interest of sporting fairness I hope Schalke can do it with the rest of whats there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    I had a thread based on an article in the Guardian last year on how well ran German clubs were, a bit related to this thread.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65360616


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,951 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    The Muppet wrote: »
    going by their first half performance there's no need to be missing out, you can get similar in your local park any sunday.
    Oh jesus, be quiet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    - you never hear of German players, or non-Germans playing in the Bundesliga shagging each others wives, buying leopardskin Bentleys or pouring champagne on the floor of nightclubs.

    That you would say that shows how little you know about German football.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Because they really aren't a decent team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    The Muppet wrote: »
    going by their first half performance there's no need to be missing out, you can get similar in your local park any sunday.

    They've been well beaten by one of the best teams on the planet. There's no shame in that.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    The Muppet wrote: »
    going by their first half performance there's no need to be missing out, you can get similar in your local park any sunday.

    Even by the standards of this forum, that's a remarkably ignorant and disrepectful comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    The OP's wish was not granted though. Never mind, I don't like either of the two teams ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    dfx- wrote: »
    Even by the standards of this forum, that's a remarkably ignorant and disrepectful comment.

    Or just a well timed joke as no doubt it was intended,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,951 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Or just a well timed joke as no doubt it was intended,
    If you had left out the well timed or any indication that the joke was anything other than crap, you may have had some kind of point.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Curse of the OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    - you never hear of German players, or non-Germans playing in the Bundesliga shagging each others wives, buying leopardskin Bentleys or pouring champagne on the floor of nightclubs.

    Quiet you, nothing wrong with that

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    1232230308_dgqmf9.gif

    Football needs more Balotelli's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    dfx- wrote: »
    Even by the standards of this forum, that's a remarkably ignorant and disrepectful comment.


    Boo ****ing HOO,they were just as **** second half if it's any consolation to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Boo ****ing HOO,they were just as **** second half if it's any consolation to you.

    Top retort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    stovelid wrote: »
    Top retort.

    Perhaps not but an accurate one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    Curse of the OP? I think not, there's no mistake that Schalke were ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    It's a pity it's come to this. I thoroughly enjoyed them beating Inter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Schalke are a big team from a decent league: they had a bad night and got turned over by one of the best teams in the world. It happens. Saying they are a park team isn't very gracious.

    If they weren't playing United, I too would like to see have seen them progress because of the attractiveness of the Bundesliga and Schalke's support but also just to shake up the usual cartel of CL clubs a bit.


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