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car lube engine oil

  • 25-04-2011 2:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11


    hi there! does anyone know much about car lube engine oil??? seems to be considerably cheaper than others makes!:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I always thought it was cheap/crap oil. They do have a fair bit of sponsorship boards up around uk racing circuits and racing teams but tbh that wouldnt convince me either.
    Dont know alot about it tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭charlieharper


    I work in a motor factors & it's the finest of oil. Some people complain about it because it's a British oil. It's like any oil, you sell the right spec then no problems!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    Used it loads of times. As the previous poster has said. Use right spec and bob's your uncle.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I work in a motor factors & it's the finest of oil.

    Up there with Mobil 1 is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭couldntthink


    "I work in a motor factors & it's the finest of oil. Some people complain about it because it's a British oil. It's like any oil, you sell the right spec then no problems!!!"

    I deal with lots and lots of Motorfactors and around 75% of staff haven't a clue about the stuff they sell, especially oils. They usually just vomit back the crap the sales rep told them. Not saying you know nothing, you may be in the 25%. But I spent 2 weeks of phase four just learning about oils. It's not something to scrimp on. High quality costs money.

    It's tempting to buy the cheap stuff. But like everything in life, "If you buy sh*t, you get sh*t." With oil, you may not notice the damage you're doing until it's quite a long way down the line and by then it's usually too late.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭charlieharper


    In reply to the above I'm happy to tell you I'm in the 25%!! Carlube develop one of the best oils on the market in the Hi-Mileage 60+ oil. It has an additive in it which helps reduce the amount of oil a car is burning & little or none of our customers are aware of it!!

    Rep's do talk a lot of waffle & less experienced motor factor employees or one's who will buy & sell cheap will repeat their waffle for sure. I reiterate again that Carlube is the finest of an oil but maybe not as high spec for Evo's or Type R Civic's but other than that if it's the correct "spec" than your every day car should be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭charlieharper


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Up there with Mobil 1 is it?

    Mobil 1 is ridiculously overpriced & is no better than the marginally less priced Castrol and the more price friendly up & coming Liqui Moli.

    As I said in the other post unless your using oil in a Evo, Type R, Impreza then Carlube is fine!


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't agree that Mobil 1 is no better than Castrol, I won't persuade you of that and neither will you persuade me it is. Also the point I made when you said Carlube was the fineist of stuff was was it up there with Mobil 1? Since you have now clarified that there are certain applications you wouldn't recommmed Carlube for can we deduce that you think Mobil 1 is a superior product.

    .........It has an additive in it which helps reduce the amount of oil a car is burning.........

    Sounds like rep waffle to me, every oil has stuff like that in the blend of the high mileage product they sell :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Mobil 1 synthetic is fully synthetic, unlike Castrol. It's why I pay €9 per litre rather than €4.

    However, as long as the oil corresponds to the viscosity and ACEA spec recommended for your car, you cant go wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Lads you are saying that one brand is better then the other etc, thats like saying that VW is better then Ford....but is a VW Lupo better then a Ford GT?

    As has been said it is the spec and additives that make the oil better or worse for certian applications. If tested a mobil 1 10w40 may be better then a castrol 10w40, but a castol 5w30 might be better then the equivilent mobil 1.
    It also depends on which type of a particular brands oil you are going to use, a 5w30 castrol edge will perform differently to a 5w30 castrol GTX or a 5w30 castol magnatec.

    For the best protection and thermal stability, you need an ester based synthetic oil. But it simply isn't required for most normal engines and most peoples driving style.

    If the carlube oil had the same additives and specs as a mobil1 oil then it would be just as good. but the fact is, that you get what you pay for, and the development and technology involved in fully synthetic oils is not cheap so you can't expect to get the same thing for cheap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Mobil 1 is ridiculously overpriced & is no better than the marginally less priced Castrol and the more price friendly up & coming Liqui Moli.

    As I said in the other post unless your using oil in a Evo, Type R, Impreza then Carlube is fine!

    Its Liqui Moly and I wouldnt call it up and coming either. They have been around for a long time in other markets at least and would be a very good oil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    If you visit the website of any oil maker they will convince you that their oil is the best.

    With regards to liqui moly, It was said once by a major engine builder in the UK, who was testing several brands of oil for the Nissan 200sx owners club, that if you melted down the liqui moly bottle, you'd have a better quality of liquid then the substance that came in the bottle!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭charlieharper


    Ha ha there's just no point arguing with some of ye cause ye'll debate to the death. In the end I have 14 years experience with oil & have seen brands come & go, seen them tested including Liqui Moly(excuse my spelling mistake mr perfect speller), heard the feedback & listened - listened is the key word there - not forming an opinion on a brand because of a mis-diagnosis of spec or one bad experience.

    After all the posts nobody even bothered to ask the man what vehicle it was for.

    No once again.....use the correct spec for your car, according to 2 or 3 oil brands to make sure or your owners handbook & you can't go wrong.

    I HAVE SPOKEN......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Experience selling oils over a counter and experience using oils when building and using engines with clearances matched to oil specs etc are two VERY different things.

    But do, please, speak on...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    I'll continue to use the oil that my engine builder recommends for the crossflow.

    As for the "ordinary" cars, we (me, my father & me grandfather) have being using Castrol for lubricants since time immortal, and we never had a problem. We have ran some of the engines to intergalactic mileages, but always with O/E, Crossland or Mann filters...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Stacks Mad


    I have two 5 gallon drums of castrol 10w 40 oil that I got handy for a truck engine but never used them . would it be safe for petrol engines as they use the same 10w 40 oil?

    In halfords they have gallon cans of oil that says Petrol/diesel .
    So I'm thinking it might be ok for ordinery cars ??

    Any ideas?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Buying oil today is certainly different to the time when all you had to say "gis a gallon a' oil dere, Jack" and run it in your tractor, your Cortina and the stove at home.
    Consult the handbook that came with the car, it will tell you what viscosity and spec the oil for that car needs to be.
    The right viscosity alone is not good enough and an oil meant for diesel will have different additives than an oil of the same viscosity meant for petrol.
    And if you have the right viscosity and it's for the right fuel type, it still might not be the right spec.
    So, viscosity, fuel type and spec. That way you can't go wrong.
    Or you could just walk in and buy the most expensive oil (because a lot of people will simply think most expensive is always best) and not know it's the wrong viscosity, fuel type and spec.
    And then you might as well put in salad oil for all the good it does.
    When buying oil for my Focus I did end up with Liquid Moly and have been running it for the last 60000 km with no problems whatsoever, the car has 180000 km on it now, starts well, runs well, pulls great and emits exactly zero smoke.
    A lot of other cars of the same age (06) that I see and driven by people who couldn't give a toss about it and just chuck in half a litre of any auld crap a month without even consulting the dipstick smoke like a 1958 Massy Fergusson.
    First have the right oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    To be honest it's all about meeting manufacturers requirements. Lots of petrols and diesels use the same oil, its all about being manufacturer approved. VW 507 goes in any modern VW as far as I know. As long as it says that on the can then you need look no further.


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