suggest car in 40K

confuzed

Hi guys

Lucky to retain a job in this recession and last week boss told me that I am entitled to company car in my new role . They have approved 40K. I will have to choose a car worth or less than 40K (inclusive all extras) and they will get it for me on lease.

Please help me choosing one.

Cheers, I am already celebrating.

robtri

confuzed wrote: »

Hi guys

Lucky to retain a job in this recession and last week boss told me that I am entitled to company car in my new role . They have approved 40K. I will have to choose a car worth or less than 40K (inclusive all extras) and they will get it for me on lease.

Please help me choosing one.

Cheers, I am already celebrating.

any stipulations, 4 doors? diesel?, some companys have funny issues lke that

confuzed

No strings attached.

Just convertibles not allowed.

VolvoMan

Top spec SE Lux with auto for 38.9k: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S60/D3-SE-LU/201112201710185/advert?channel=CARS

mickdw

The figure is a bit of a killer as it appears to knock out all the larger execs 5 series, E class or Audi A6.

seanybiker

mickdw wrote: »

The figure is a bit of a killer as it appears to knock out all the larger execs 5 series, E class or Audi A6.

Jaysus 40k is a fairly alright figure in my books. There's loads of deadly cars available to him

confuzed

mickdw wrote: »

The figure is a bit of a killer as it appears to knock out all the larger execs 5 series, E class or Audi A6.

I know its delibrate. I was told as these cars depreciate quickly, thier lease would be higher.

Oh_Noes

Any jobs going where you work?

copacetic

confuzed wrote: »

I know its delibrate. I was told as these cars depreciate quickly, thier lease would be higher.

40k could get you a nice a4 avant with a few options. Something like this one, which is just over your budget

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201113201852444

Personally I'd lean toward a Subaru outback
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201033199265441

Although they are both a bit overpriced, just not as crazily as the Volvo

-Corkie-

VolvoMan wrote: »

Top spec SE Lux with auto for 38.9k: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S60/D3-SE-LU/201112201710185/advert?channel=CARS

I actually seen one of these in the flesh last week. They are a very impressive car.

James2693

Your probably looking at a nice little micra or a little fiesta. Cheap parts and not too heavy on fuel. Insurance will be good aswell because a 1L would do you:)

BrianD3

You haven't said what sort of car you want. If you want a big barge and are not too pushed about performance, the Saab 9-5 comes in at under 40k

OTOH if you want something smaller and a lot faster the RenaultSport Megane can probably be got for under 40 new. Here is a used 2010 one for 32k.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Renault/Megane/COUPE-RS/201042199976723/advert?channel=CARS

VolvoMan

-Corkie- wrote: »

I actually seen one of these in the flesh last week. They are a very impressive car.

I actually think that one in particular is very good value. You couldn't ask for more spec at that price.

Tragedy

copacetic wrote: »

40k could get you a nice a4 avant with a few options. Something like this one, which is just over your budget

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201113201852444

Personally I'd lean toward a Subaru outback
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201033199265441

Although they are both a bit overpriced, just not as crazily as the Volvo

While I don't like the S60 without the R-Design bodykit:
How is a 42k Audi A4 Avant without even Leather seats/xenons/rain sensors 'less crazily overpriced' than the Volvo?

The exterior of the car is lovely, the interior is muck.

johnos1984

I'd have an Alfa Romeo of some sort.

Something you wouldn't buy with your own money is what you want

PaulKK

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A4/Technik-/201037199517901/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/C-Class/Was-%E2%82%AC387/201037199503756/advert?channel=CARS (I know I know.. manual)

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/318d--Sa/201108201389131/advert?channel=CARS

VolvoMan

copacetic wrote: »

Although they are both a bit overpriced, just not as crazily as the Volvo

Just saw this now.

How is 38.5k for a five cylinder diesel engined compact exec with leather, auto, bluetooth and Bi-Xenon headlights overpriced?

Testament1

Does the car have to be new OP? If not then i'd go for an Audi A5. Beautiful looking car IMO and I'm sure you'd find a good specced one within your budget if you're not too fussy about having an 11 reg.

PaulKK

Testament1 wrote: »

Does the car have to be new OP? If not then i'd go for an Audi A5. Beautiful looking car IMO and I'm sure you'd find a good specced one within your budget if you're not too fussy about having an 11 reg.

I'd say when its a company car it will need to be new because it will be leased...

Tragedy

Opel Insignia Elite 2.0CDTI ecoFLEX 160PS Hatchback

€34,280

Add:
Pearlescent Paint
Ergonomic Leather Sports Seats
Flexride
OPC Styling Pack
Embedded Mobile Phone System with Bluetooth
Upgraded CD500 system with Satnav
Premium Sound System

€40,002

Would be my choice

Tea 1000

The Giulietta 1750 TBI Cloverleaf, in Competizione red... with a few extra's thrown in!
Not many beautiful and different cars with 235bhp for less than 40k new out there!

mickdw

confuzed wrote: »

I know its delibrate. I was told as these cars depreciate quickly, thier lease would be higher.

Id say the lease on a cheaper car specced to the last just to reach 40k is not going to be pretty either. Still I realise this is the way companies work.

Your boss might be also keeping you out of his league just to keep you in your place:D

johnthemull

PAY MORE TAX

lomb

320D coupe,might be one or two over budget, and then remap it to around 200bhp.

Sikie

Seriously before you "splash out" 40k make sure you understand the tax implications of the car

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaflets/benefit-in-kind/private-use-cars.html

R.O.R

OP - what's important to you in a car?

Space
Pace
Luxury
Looks
Badge
Value for Money
Low BIK

If you go for the full 40k it's going to cost you around €450 a month out of your pocket in BIK (presuming less than 24,000 business km per annum). If you think about the running costs of a car that value, it's not bad, but you could go for something cheaper to keep the BIK low. Also, don't even bother looking at something with emissions over 155g/km - will cost you more in BIK and the boss probably won't sign off as the lease costs would be too high.

Personally, I'd be looking at an S60 D3 SE LUX, or a Superb Combi 170 Elegance. Skoda gives more for the money, but the S60 is fantastic to drive (and MY12 upgrades should improve on that further).

Mc Love

FOCUS RS?

lomb

VolvoMan wrote: »

Just saw this now.

How is 38.5k for a five cylinder diesel engined compact exec with leather, auto, bluetooth and Bi-Xenon headlights overpriced?

Probably a very heavy depreciator which means little desirability from the masses.

vectra

Agree with R.O.R 100%

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Superb/2.0-TDI-/201102200890714/advert?channel=CARS

Zonda999

Thats some Skoda to be fair, probably as nice a Skoda that has ever been imported to this country (i doubt very much anyone ever got a 3.6 V6 FSi one). Something like that definitely deserves some very serious consideration indeed, even if the likes of the A4 and 3 series are on the list

VolvoMan

lomb wrote: »

Probably a very heavy depreciator which means little desirability from the masses.

It's a company car, so depreciation will not be an issue.

Anyway, you'll find that all cars depreciate. Realistically, you're always going to lose your shirt after three years if you buy a car new.

Tea 1000

€40k on a friggin Skoda Superb Estate? You'd want to be soft in the skull. Typical boards suggestion. If you want a saloon, then the 508 is where you should look.

R.O.R

VolvoMan wrote: »

It's a company car, so depreciation will not be an issue.

Anyway, you'll find that all cars depreciate. Realistically, you're always going to lose your shirt after three years if you buy a car new.

It's being leased - depreciation is a huge factor as it's that and interest that make up the monthly payments (on the finance part).

But, due to the huge fleet discount available, the S60 depreciate's less than than a similar retail price A4 (well, in my eye's anyway).

lomb

VolvoMan wrote: »

It's a company car, so depreciation will not be an issue.

Anyway, you'll find that all cars depreciate. Realistically, you're always going to lose your shirt after three years if you buy a car new.

Whats wrong with a 320D coupe or saloon? Looks the part, desirable, BMW handling and drivability. All it needs is a bhp increase via a remap.
In a few years the phone will ring off the hook for the right colour/spec, and price will reflect that. If I was buying a new car thats what I would get anyway. Easily saleable in a few years at a known depreciation cost.

confuzed

Just to update.

Tax paid by company.
Forgot to mention- Lease amount <€1000/m
Depriciation not a problem for me but these car have more lease amount so it will not be covered.

My preference:

Up to 2 Lt diesel.
Will go for fully loaded lower class than Audi, BMW without any extras.
Would love cruise control, automatic or tiptronic, leather, xenon lights if possible.

Compared two of my collegues who got last year.
One got BMW 5 series base model and other one Insignia Elite. Loved later over BMW as it got nothing extra.

No one has mentioned top range Passat. Are they so bad.

Tea 1000

confuzed wrote: »

Just to update.

Tax paid by company.
Forgot to mention- Lease amount <€1000/m
Depriciation not a problem for me but these car have more lease amount so it will not be covered.

My preference:

Up to 2 Lt diesel.
Will go for fully loaded lower class than Audi, BMW without any extras.
Would love cruise control, automatic or tiptronic, leather, xenon lights if possible.

Compared two of my collegues who got last year.
One got BMW 5 series base model and other one Insignia Elite. Loved later over BMW as it got nothing extra.

No one has mentioned top range Passat. Are they so bad.

I take it by that post that the fab looking Giulietta is out. Would a 159 also be out? That being the case, I'd go for the 508. The Passat is actually quite good as you ask, but boards folk seem to hate it for some reason and yet think it's sister car the Superb is the best car of all time. Why? Cause you get more extras for the same money.
Still, go test drive the 508 first.

VolvoMan

R.O.R wrote: »

It's being leased - depreciation is a huge factor as it's that and interest that make up the monthly payments (on the finance part).

In this case it doesn't make a difference, as it fits the OP's criteria and he won't be paying the lease.

Tragedy

I discount the Passat because of it's drab interior.
The Passat CC would come in under budget, but the interior is just plain and boring.

R.O.R

Tea 1000 wrote: »

€40k on a friggin Skoda Superb Estate? You'd want to be soft in the skull. Typical boards suggestion. If you want a saloon, then the 508 is where you should look.

Sorry about that - just trying to use my years of experience and depth of knowledge on the subject in question, but obviously, your knowledge is soo much better :rolleyes:

Out of interest, what (in your expert opinion) makes the 508 better than the Superb? I take it you have a lot of experience driving the both to be able to shell out your sage advice? Would like to hear as the 508 left me a bit meh. Didn't even bother bringing it home for the bank holiday weekend.

VolvoMan wrote: »

In this case it doesn't make a difference, as it fits the OP's criteria and he won't be paying the lease.

Still has to come in under a budget. High depreciation will put it over that budget.

confuzed wrote: »

Just to update.

Tax paid by company.
Forgot to mention- Lease amount <€1000/m
Depriciation not a problem for me but these car have more lease amount so it will not be covered.

My preference:

Up to 2 Lt diesel.
Will go for fully loaded lower class than Audi, BMW without any extras.
Would love cruise control, automatic or tiptronic, leather, xenon lights if possible.

Compared two of my collegues who got last year.
One got BMW 5 series base model and other one Insignia Elite. Loved later over BMW as it got nothing extra.

No one has mentioned top range Passat. Are they so bad.

Passat Highline DSG 170 isn't soo bad, but (except for the gearbox) it's not that great either. Personally, I'd prefer the CC with a media pack - lease costs would be similar for the 2 - but, there is a delay on the DSG box. Realistically, if ordered now you'd be lucky to see if before October and at that stage, you might as well hold off for 2012.

Auto box on the Insignia now comes inside the 155g threshold. If you can get a test drive in an auto ecoFLEX version, see what it's like. I've only ever driven a pre-ecoFLEX auto model and that was very good, but so were the manuals. The ecoFLEX manuals are pretty horrible to drive but the auto box may hide the big hole in the torque.

CO2 on the Superb Hatch is just inside the 155 threshold for BIK, but the Combi is just over If you can put up with the looks of the hatch then it fits your requirements (all the toys on the Elegance). Combi is a better looker, but would cost you a lot more in BIK.

Still think I'd end up going for an S60 myself, and foregoing the Auto. SE LUX or R-Design with the upgraded radio would be the big decision though.

VolvoMan

R.O.R wrote: »

Still has to come in under a budget. High depreciation will put it over that budget.

Skoda's have pretty high depreciation as well.

I'm not denying that the Superb Combi isn't a great car though. I'd certainly consider one within that budget.

So OP, you haven't commented on our suggestions so far; what do you think?

pburns

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I take it by that post that the fab looking Giulietta is out. Would a 159 also be out? That being the case, I'd go for the 508. The Passat is actually quite good as you ask, but boards folk seem to hate it for some reason and yet think it's sister car the Superb is the best car of all time. Why? Cause you get more extras for the same money.
Still, go test drive the 508 first.

I'd echo most of that. The 159 though is very long in the tooth at this stage and TBH, I drove one and found it pretty ordinary. Also much heavier than the current breed of lighter, more CO2 friendly cars. Looks great inside and out though, good diesel engine and despite what some might say it's pretty reliable by all accounts.

It's more desirable than a bloody Skoda Superb, that's for sure. If you want the max extras for your money or have inadequacies in the trouser dept and need a car that covers the biggest sq footage fire ahead. Unless you have a family or need lots of space I'd pass tho TBH.

I'm not usually a Peugeot fan but I think the 508 is their best car in ages. looks great, drives great according to reviews. Check this out:
http://thenextgear.com/?s=508

The Passat? Again NextGear give an Irish relevant perspective:
http://thenextgear.com/2011/03/15/vw-passat-2010-highline-review/
It's OK but a bit boring. and every farmer i know has one (or a Skoda).

A slightly left-of-centre choice would be this:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201024198432877
Great diesel engine, all-wheel drive. Needs the 18'' wheels, leather can be speced with dealer.

I think the S60 would be hard to beat though for both decent extras and a non-mainstream badge for under 40k.

confuzed

confuzed wrote: »

Just to update.

Tax paid by company.

Just out of interest, what do you mean by that? You somehow don't get stung for BIK or something?

Guy:Incognito

The bext thing for the OP to do is drive as many cars as he can and pick the one he likes the best. Things like depreciation, reliability, resale are of no interest so it just comes down to the car he wants.

Way left of centre btw: http://www.renault.ie/renault-range/passenger-vehicles/laguna/laguna-coupe/overview/


http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201112201712679



A high spec hydropneumatic C5 would be way up my list too.

Drummerboy08

The S60 would probably do it for me, closely followed by a specced up Insignia Elite.

There's a massive leadtime on new Passats, so if you want to wait 16-20 weeks for your new car then be my guest.....

Possibly get a decent A4 Sline for your money too, don't discount that out. I supplied a gorgeous A4 Avant Sline last week for for similar money, everyone said the car looked the part.

EPM

I've been a passenger in a 508 this weekend. I'd definitely take a look at one. Especially if you're not paying. Have a look at a titanium x spec Mondeo too. A 163 diesel with the powershift gearbox would be very nice.

Squall19

Lads are right, buy something you wouldn't dare buy.

Dont bother with Skoda octavia, passat etc.

Peugetot RCZ 2.0 HDI 163bhp.



HONDA CR-Z 1.5I HYBRID GT



VOLKSWAGEN SCIROCCO 2.0 TDI 170BHP DSG SPORT



I would class them all as hatchbacks's, so coupe rule doesn't apply

Mc Love

yeah forget the boring cars

Drummerboy08

New RS Can't be ordered anymore AFAIK.

Car has to be new for VAT and VRT purposes if its going on Contract Hire.

Scirocco diesel is a special order from the factory, which means your looking at 16 week lead time.

I know of one VRS Octavia available in Silver with Xenon's. After that they're fresh orders too.

I was thinking about this again, I think a Passat CC is worth a look in too. I wouldn't rate the 508 as you'd want a 2.0HDi, and when you think you could have a VW, Audi, Volvo, etc etc etc, why would you settle for a Peugeot?

Mc Love

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

New RS Can't be ordered anymore AFAIK.

Drummerboy08

Mc Love wrote: »

I think it's the case anyhow. They built as many as they were planning to a good while back, and with the new Focus now here I'd imagine they can't be.

Tea 1000

R.O.R wrote: »

Sorry about that - just trying to use my years of experience and depth of knowledge on the subject in question, but obviously, your knowledge is soo much better :rolleyes:

Out of interest, what (in your expert opinion) makes the 508 better than the Superb? I take it you have a lot of experience driving the both to be able to shell out your sage advice? Would like to hear as the 508 left me a bit meh. Didn't even bother bringing it home for the bank holiday weekend.

Years of experience and depth of knowledge? For someone all knowledgeable you may realise that the Superb is not a fine handling car. The 508 has better handling, nicer interior, nicer exterior and more exclusive. But if that makes it worse, then fair enough.
Some people just like big boots and an extra feature or two.