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Video without permission

  • 22-04-2011 8:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭


    I have been requested to delete a video/Picture montage of a party that I attended as one of the persons in the Video/Pictures did not like this. I have now deleted the video which was only posted on a private page on a public site You Tube, with no-one able to view this video without an authorisation key from me, and have deleted all files from my computer. This person now wants me to sign a statement stating why I done the video, names of who received the video and the names of the people who viewed it as well as the original files.
    The person is claiming that he asked through a third party, his brother in law whose party is was, for these files and that the family has now split because he did not receive them.
    Do I have to write this statement as the brother in law in question does not want me to name him as the only receiver of the Video file in which he now is no longer able to view either as it has been deleted from the server. I am being accused of splitting the family but I know there were problems before that as well. I am being threatened with legal action because of this video which now no longer exists.

    Regards Hugh


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    Did you have permission to record video at the time? Did anyone object at that point in time to be recorded?

    Did the party holder (or whoever invited you) give you permission to record?

    I certainly wouldn't be providing any information to anyone with a request like that.

    Threatened with legal actions on what grounds? I think it's all a bluff and they have no legal basis for their claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Where was the party held?
    Were other people taking pictures?

    The legal action is IMO is BS, you've removed the video which is enough. Don't sign or write anything, it's a family mater so stay out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭DonalK1981


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Where was the party held?
    Were other people taking pictures?

    The legal action is IMO is BS, you've removed the video which is enough. Don't sign or write anything, it's a family mater so stay out.

    To be fair I think he has no right to get you to remove anything legally. You own the video, you recorded it. It is up to you what you do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭hughowen


    The Party was in Venice attended by 5 males, all 5 took video and pictures.
    Nobody objected to photos or video. They knew I have my own webpage and that I have video and photos on there. It is a private video so no-one else can view. I was given permission to do a video montage as rememberance of the week we had by the person whose party it was and invited all of us.

    This person works for a solicitor or so I am led to believe and he is very dangerous and can cause a lot of heartache. I am not able to fight this as I have a lot of other and more important things like house repossession, health and work duties and also trying to keep my wife out of it as she can do without more stress.
    Thanks for replies, cannot afford solicitor at this time so would anyone know for fact that if the video is removed and files deleted will that be the end as far as legal cases go

    Regards Hugh Owen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    If the party was held in his house or a premises owned by him then he might have some case on the basis of privacy. If he attended a party in Venice then he must have been aware on the night that people were taking photos and videos, that was the time to declare an objection, not after the event. He has no right to assert a privacy claim just because he doesn't like the photos.

    This guy is throwing his weight around, tell him you have removed the files and that as far as you are concerned that is the end of the matter. Do not provide any written statement, that is just bluff. He has no case against you since (1) the host asked you to do video/photos and (2) on the night it was obvious to everyone that photos and videos were being taken.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    The general rule is in venues is that if you are video taping or recording people attending the venue then you must put up a notice an the entrances to say so.

    Gets a bit woolly for a private event at a private location.

    I don't think you have any legal obligations to sign anything or reveal what you have done with the images. If you are happy that you've taken the steps to remove them all then just tell them so and let them employ the expensive solicitors.

    I know you've said it was hosted on a private YouTube page but once the video has been online or distributed to anybody else then are absolutely no guarantees that you can give that there is not a copy out there somewhere.

    It's normal Irish behaviour to threaten the law at any opportunity (despite our daily disregard for the rule of law)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    hughowen wrote: »
    I have been requested to delete a video/Picture montage of a party that I attended as one of the persons in the Video/Pictures did not like this. I have now deleted the video which was only posted on a private page on a public site You Tube, with no-one able to view this video without an authorisation key from me, and have deleted all files from my computer. This person now wants me to sign a statement stating why I done the video, names of who received the video and the names of the people who viewed it as well as the original files.
    The person is claiming that he asked through a third party, his brother in law whose party is was, for these files and that the family has now split because he did not receive them.
    Do I have to write this statement as the brother in law in question does not want me to name him as the only receiver of the Video file in which he now is no longer able to view either as it has been deleted from the server. I am being accused of splitting the family but I know there were problems before that as well. I am being threatened with legal action because of this video which now no longer exists.

    Regards Hugh

    there must have been some serious goings on in the video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    hughowen wrote: »
    The Party was in Venice attended by 5 males, all 5 took video and pictures.
    Nobody objected to photos or video. They knew I have my own webpage and that I have video and photos on there. It is a private video so no-one else can view. I was given permission to do a video montage as rememberance of the week we had by the person whose party it was and invited all of us.

    This person works for a solicitor or so I am led to believe and he is very dangerous and can cause a lot of heartache. I am not able to fight this as I have a lot of other and more important things like house repossession, health and work duties and also trying to keep my wife out of it as she can do without more stress.
    Thanks for replies, cannot afford solicitor at this time so would anyone know for fact that if the video is removed and files deleted will that be the end as far as legal cases go

    Regards Hugh Owen
    Sounds like empty threats. Him working for a solicitor is probably irrelevant unless he is a solicitor. Working in a solicitor's office you might still have no knowledge of the law at all, his employer might net even deal in this area. Also, him employer would probably not act for him as there could be a conflict of interest so it's not like they would give him free representation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Even if he was a solicitor I still would not be worried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭hughowen


    Just to clarify a bit, the video and pictures were taken in public places like Venice bridges and streets around Verona and the outside the apartment that we were staying at. There was nothing went on other than 5 guys being drunk, on our own, not even in a pub, outside our apartment late at night sitting and having a laugh trying to pour drink from a 10litre Keg thing you can buy at Tescos and a few pictures maybe 50 in all (with him on his own in only 1 having a pint). He was in 8 pictures in total and mostly he was waving at the camera with others. I think his issue was that when he saw it he thought that it was on Youtube and that the world can see it, and that has festered in his devious mind and become a problem.

    I can also guarantee for fact that only one person received the key to open the Video and he did not send it to anyone else.

    Again thanks
    Hugh Owen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Public place eh? I'd tell him to take a running jump at his demands and his public self-inflicted embarrassment (assuming Italian law permits).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    Tell him that it's been deleted and you have no intention to embarass him.

    If he want's a solicitor to confirm it then ask him to pay for one.


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