Sorry But It Is Very Racist To Oppose Immigration

SharpshooterTom

I've been delving into some of these polls about immigration across Europe, and I'm particularly disturbed that virtually every european country supports some kind of restrictions on immigration (in Ireland it's 70% even before the recession).

I've always wondered why so many people support "restrictions" on immigration? Why? Why does it matter who or what lives next to you?

The world is getting smaller, the concept of nation states will disappear at some point and we'll probably merge together into single nation state. I also believe the world (or at least Europe and America) will be majority mixed race by sometime this century. I've never understood why people wont just live and let live.

We're all from the human race and we all share this planet god dammit. No one has a right to tell anyone else where to live. Tear down the borders and let humanity live together.

AhSureTisGrand

No.

Jesus Wept

ok

Manic Moran

The world is getting smaller, the concept of nation states will disappear at some point and we'll probably merge together into single nation state. I also believe the world (or at least Europe and America) will be majority mixed race by sometime this century. I've never understood why people wont just live and let live.

You're mixing up the concept of race, and nation-states.

Immigration policy generally isn't about racial purity, it's about the fact that a nation's government has as its primary obligation that nation's citizens. Unlimited immigration prospects are going to have a very definite effect on the standard of living of that nation's denizens, and the government's ability to provide for them.

You may be right that at some point we'll be all one big happy global population, but that's not going to happen until mankind has colonised a few dozen planets.

NTM

Dionysus

Gnobe wrote: »

I've been delving into some of these polls about immigration across Europe, and I'm particularly disturbed that virtually every european country supports some kind of restrictions on immigration (in Ireland it's 70% even before the recession).

I've always wondered why so many people support "restrictions" on immigration? Why? Why does it matter who or what lives next to you?

The world is getting smaller, the concept of nation states will disappear at some point and we'll probably merge together into single nation state. I also believe the world (or at least Europe and America) will be majority mixed race by sometime this century. I've never understood why people wont just live and let live.

We're all from the human race and we all share this planet god dammit. No one has a right to tell anyone else where to live. Tear down the borders and let humanity live together.

I agree. Let's just allow everybody in and share our social welfare and health systems with them. Perhaps we could start with flyers dropped over Nigeria: Move to Ireland, choose a home and get the state to pay 90% of the rent, avoid your local witchdoctor and get a medical card for free western medical treatment, enjoy a free education system for your children. ...

hondasam

No there should be tighter restrictions imo.

PAULWATSON

Gnobe wrote: »

I've been delving into some of these polls about immigration across Europe, and I'm particularly disturbed that virtually every european country supports some kind of restrictions on immigration (in Ireland it's 70% even before the recession).

I've always wondered why so many people support "restrictions" on immigration? Why? Why does it matter who or what lives next to you?

The world is getting smaller, the concept of nation states will disappear at some point and we'll probably merge together into single nation state. I also believe the world (or at least Europe and America) will be majority mixed race by sometime this century. I've never understood why people wont just live and let live.

We're all from the human race and we all share this planet god dammit. No one has a right to tell anyone else where to live. Tear down the borders and let humanity live together.

Could you confirm which NGO you work for?

double GG

Restrictions are there for a reason.

If there were no restrictions, Africa's population would halve. The Middle Easts population would dramatically drop, and the 'richer' Western World would have a massive increase in population.

They are there for a reason, not for racism.

Sonics2k

I do find it somewhat ironic how uppity the Irish get about Immigration, when you consider that for generations, the Irish themselves have been emigrating to various other countries, especially the U.S. and Australia.

But god forbid those job thieving Polski's should come here! Oh right.

tfitzgerald

Even if it is raciest I don't Care I oppose it

PAULWATSON

Sonics2k wrote: »

I do find it somewhat ironic how uppity the Irish get about Immigration, when you consider that for generations, the Irish themselves have been emigrating to various other countries, especially the U.S. and Australia.

But god forbid those job thieving Polski's should come here! Oh right.

Ever read much history??

Paddy went to work in the US and the UK. If Paddy did not work he lived on the street. No benefits in those days.

During the 1800's the US were crying out for immigrants to populate thee country and workers to build an infrastructure.



By the way, I strongly suspect this thread was started by a "change agent" working for one of a host of social organisations. The purpose is to get people talking and "raising awarenes"

richymcdermott

im sick of this word racist being thrown around all the time

SharpshooterTom

double GG wrote: »

Restrictions are there for a reason.

It's a duty for rich countries to help out the poorer nations. Many people in those countries dream of being over here. Why oppose? There's plenty of space here.

AhSureTisGrand

Gnobe wrote: »

It's a duty for rich countries to help out the poorer nations. Many people in those countries dream of being over here. Why oppose? There's plenty of space here.

No there isn't

PAULWATSON

Gnobe wrote: »

It's a duty for rich countries to help out the poorer nations. Many people in those countries dream of being over here. Why oppose? There's plenty of space here.

This is primary school stuff.

Mrmoe

Gnobe wrote: »

It's a duty for rich countries to help out the poorer nations. Many people in those countries dream of being over here. Why oppose? There's plenty of space here.

According to Whom? Shouldn't they have a responsibility to help themselves and their own country rather than holding out the begging bowl to countries that have pulled themselves up from the dirt through their own hard work and effort? There is no doubt that poorer countries would need a helping hand to help them improve, but to give them a carte blanche to their citizens to move anywhere they want their country of origin will never improve due to being hamstrung by their best being able to leave unhindered.

galwayrush

We can't even afford to look after our own FFS.

R0ot

Immigration is always going to be a touchy subject but unfortunately we need to be more concerned for our own citizens (regardless of race/colour/religion/etc.) before we start to reach out to help others in any way.

How many homeless people are there in Ireland? How many drug addicts that have gotten there due to hard times and just can't afford to climb out of the hole they are now in? How many people are probably going to lose their homes this year due to everything that is going on?

We have enough issues at home that we can worry about first.

doolox

I am very much in favour of retaining restrictions on who can come into my country until standards of living, political behaviour ( ours included ) improve so that most of the people in the world have similar standards of behaviour and there is less friction and reduction in our standards of living as a result.
Because of open borders I have seen jobs in my area of work go to foreign people who happen to be younger, probably faster, and cheaper to employ than I am.

I have moved to a sector that can only employ Irish people and my conditions of employment have improved immensely. I'd say the same applies to anyone in an exclusively Irish jobs market, for example those using the Irish language, legal and admin staff etc. or those using almost exclusively Irish cultural content in their line of work which would take a foreigner ages to learn........

My wife works in a sector which employs a lot of Asian staff. Since the recent pay-cuts and difficulties in that sector a lot of them have left and the policy is that they are not replaced. My wife and her colleagues are having to take up the slack on their own without replacement of departing colleagues. If Irish staff had been employed in the first place ( these were permanent jobs given to Non-Irish people!!) the chances are they would stay put during the hard times and the difficulty would be lessened. What hit them hard was the recent increases in taxes and the recent cancellation of all overtime as they were in Ireland to make the most money in the least time for return home.

It is not difficult to imagine that those people less affected by international competition see nothing wrong with unrestricted entry to all people while those at the cutting edge of competition, in the direct line of fire to be let go if cheaper foreign labour can be obtained, will object strongest. It is the governments job to adjudicate to correct level of admissions to allow and stick to it. So far my experiences with this "social experiment" have been mixed.

There should be strict levels of education, health and skill levels required for entry, just as applies to Irish people going to US,AUS,NZ,Canada etc.

Equally strict levels of character, criminal records etc should apply.

It can be observed that those non-nationals with a good standard of education get on well here and contribute well to certain sectors of the Irish economy (nurses and doctors ) while other sectors suffer as a result (language problems with serving staff in hotels and supermarkets ).

While Ireland should not be a closed country we should not be in any hurry to open our doors to the world yet.......

dvpower

double GG wrote: »

Restrictions are there for a reason.

If there were no restrictions, Africa's population would halve. The Middle Easts population would dramatically drop, and the 'richer' Western World would have a massive increase in population.

They are there for a reason, not for racism.

But its widely accepted that Europe needs more immigrents to pay for pensions of an ever ageing population. There needs to be some restrictions, but probably less than there are now.

KINGVictor

Dionysus wrote: »

I agree. Let's just allow everybody in and share our social welfare and health systems with them. Perhaps we could start with flyers dropped over Nigeria: Move to Ireland, choose a home and get the state to pay 90% of the rent, avoid your local witchdoctor and get a medical card for free western medical treatment, enjoy a free education system for your children. ...

This is a bit tangential to the topic but why did you have to use Nigeria as an example? It is becoming very convenient and acceptable to disrespect Nigeria/Nigerians.

In the same vein, using your analogy there would be significant drop in population in Ireland if flyers were dropped indicating unrestricted immigration to Canada/USA.

@ topic, I personally feel it is naive to think that it is racist to oppose immigration. In a recent study done in the UK, it found that Black British and Asians are increasingly supporting policies to restrict further immigration, would they be racist to their own too?:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361163/Asians-likely-anti-immigration-white-Britons.html

The reality is that countries cannot just open their doors to everyone, that would be ridiculous and the borderline of insanity however idealistic such an idea is.

dvpower

Mrmoe wrote: »

According to Whom? Shouldn't they have a responsibility to help themselves and their own country rather than holding out the begging bowl to countries that have pulled themselves up from the dirt through their own hard work and effort? There is no doubt that poorer countries would need a helping hand to help them improve, but to give them a carte blanche to their citizens to move anywhere they want their country of origin will never improve due to being hamstrung by their best being able to leave unhindered.

Only a very small minority of our immigrants are holding out the begging bowl. Most who come have already availed of expensive education services in their own countries, are young and healthy, don't tend to use the social welfare system and work hard.
Overall, the only losers are their countries of origin.

Bodhidharma

Gnobe wrote: »

It's a duty for rich countries to help out the poorer nations. Many people in those countries dream of being over here. Why oppose? There's plenty of space here.

From my reading of history I would say the opposite, it is the duty of rich countries to steal from and exploit poorer nations. People and governments oppose letting everyone in because for a caste system, which is essentially what the world is, to work there needs to be poor people to exploit. Its unfortunate but true.

Sonics2k

PAULWATSON wrote: »

Ever read much history??

Paddy went to work in the US and the UK. If Paddy did not work he lived on the street. No benefits in those days.

During the 1800's the US were crying out for immigrants to populate thee country and workers to build an infrastructure.

A surprisingly large amount.

The main reason for the Irish to move on to the U.S. during the 1800 was due to the issues affecting Ireland, huge parts were still reeling from the affects of the Famine, there was little prospect of employment, and others simply heard of this wonderful Land of Opportunity they wanted to be part of.

But my point is that, over a hundred years later, the Irish are still going to the U.S. when times get hard and get new jobs there.

How is that any different from people (let's go with Poland, its an easy example), coming to Ireland to seek work, get away from their Countries issues and seek a new life?

Don't get me wrong, my personal belief is that if you move to another country, you work, learn the language and pay tax, and not leech around.

Well I have to say this article gave me pause for thought:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938

dvpower

doolox wrote: »

Because of open borders I have seen jobs in my area of work go to foreign people who happen to be younger, probably faster, and cheaper to employ than I am.

This is a good thing, no? Improved competivness is good for the economy as a whole, creating more net wealth.
Everyone wins (except for the people who can't compete).

Sonics2k

bluewolf wrote: »

Well I have to say this article gave me pause for thought:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938

Seemed very sensationalist don't you think, and quite a bit of hearsay.

Like it could of been written by an Evangelist from Idaho on the topic of Mexicans.

I've been to Sweden, have quite a lot of Swedish friends, I've mostly met through gaming, and even went out with a Swedish girl, but personally didn't think there was a huge amount of Muslims around while I was there. It was no London for example.

Edit:
The article also complains about Swedens Army. Sweden is a neutral country, it does not need a large army, just like Ireland has a small Army.

dvpower

bluewolf wrote: »

Well I have to say this article gave me pause for thought:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938

A bit of a rant tbh.

KINGVictor

bluewolf wrote: »

Well I have to say this article gave me pause for thought:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938

Are you aware that the article was written 5 years ago (2006) and since then the Swedish welfare system has not collapsed. I would advise that we learn to differentiate between propaganda and the truthful account of a particular issue.

dvpower

dvpower wrote: »

A bit of a rant tbh.

Yeah, I wonder how much of the stats or quotes are true. Scary if they are

KINGVictor wrote: »

Are you aware that the article was written 5 years ago (2006) and since then the Swedish welfare system has not collapsed. I would advise that we learn to differentiate between propaganda and the truthful account of a particular issue.

Sorry, it was the quotes and assault rates I was interested in - I don't care about the welfare

Sonics2k

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah, I wonder how much of the stats or quotes are true. Scary if they are

This'd be one of those rare times I'd like to see his sources for his claims.

You can't just throw out "90% of robberies were by gangs" and not back it up.

kuntboy

Sonics2k wrote: »

I've been to Sweden, have quite a lot of Swedish friends, I've mostly met through gaming, and even went out with a Swedish girl, but personally didn't think there was a huge amount of Muslims around while I was there. It was no London for example.

Well having been to Sweden and having Swedish friends and even "thinking" there wasn't a huge amount, you obviously know everything about the place.

The article also complains about Swedens Army. Sweden is a neutral country, it does not need a large army, just like Ireland has a small Army.

The naivety of this statement is staggering.

Sonics2k

kuntboy wrote: »

Well having been to Sweden and having Swedish friends and even "thinking" there wasn't a huge amount, you obviously know everything about the place.

Now you're just trying to be smart. All I did was point out a personal view from my own visits to the country.

kuntboy wrote: »

The naivety of this statement is staggering.

Back up your statement please.

The Article in question is over 5 years old, was inaccurate on various counts and yes, complains about the number of people in a neutral countries army, which was also incorrect.

dxhound2005

This is what the OP wrote in another thread recently. I think he is a bit mad.

We need a one world government. I like a lot of other Irish people are sick and tired of the concept of having nation states. I personally don't consider myself Irish, just human. It means I have to buy into the idea of a nationality otherwise.

A one world government is our only hope to tackle problems together such as overpopulation, prevention of wars, climate change etc. It needs to happen for the exsistance of the human race to continue IMO.

I also think Europe and Ireland in particular is too white, racial wise. I agree with Gerry Adams in that Ireland needs more black people, preferably a couple of million of them or so and then pass a law something for Irish marry someone of a different ethnicity (although that might be quite extreme) but we do need to enure a mixed race society at some point for tolerance. Preferably quite quickly because thats the way the world IS going after all.

tallus

Sonics2k wrote: »

Seemed very sensationalist don't you think, and quite a bit of hearsay.

Like it could of been written by an Evangelist from Idaho on the topic of Mexicans.

I've been to Sweden, have quite a lot of Swedish friends, I've mostly met through gaming, and even went out with a Swedish girl, but personally didn't think there was a huge amount of Muslims around while I was there. It was no London for example.

Edit:
The article also complains about Swedens Army. Sweden is a neutral country, it does not need a large army, just like Ireland has a small Army.

I have been to Sweden several times, and around 10 years back Malmo was overflowing with muslims. You must have been wearing a blindfold ?

galwayrush

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This is what the OP wrote in another thread recently. I think he is a bit mad.



We need a one world government. I like a lot of other Irish people are sick and tired of the concept of having nation states. I personally don't consider myself Irish, just human. It means I have to buy into the idea of a nationality otherwise.

A one world government is our only hope to tackle problems together such as overpopulation, prevention of wars, climate change etc. It needs to happen for the exsistance of the human race to continue IMO.

I also think Europe and Ireland in particular is too white, racial wise. I agree with Gerry Adams in that Ireland needs more black people, preferably a couple of million of them or so and then pass a law something for Irish marry someone of a different ethnicity (although that might be quite extreme) but we do need to enure a mixed race society at some point for tolerance. Preferably quite quickly because thats the way the world IS going after all.

Good grief, must have been one of his days away from the asylum...:pac::pac:

Sonics2k

tallus wrote: »

I have been to Sweden several times, and around 10 years back Malmo was overflowing with muslims. You must have been wearing a blindfold ?

Sorry I should of clarified what parts I was in, was mostly around Skövde, Gothenburg and Stockholm, and a few other towns. And it wasn't 10 years ago.

Now all I said was that the Muslim population did not seem that large to me, and at no point did any of my Swedish friends point out a large population.

Like I said in another post, it was a personal observation.

tallus

Sonics2k wrote: »

Sorry I should of clarified what parts I was in, was mostly around Skövde, Gothenburg and Stockholm, and a few other towns. And it wasn't 10 years ago.

Now all I said was that the Muslim population did not seem that large to me, and at no point did any of my Swedish friends point out a large population.

Like I said in another post, it was a personal observation.

So was mine... a personal observation I mean.

I didn't find Stockholm to be anything like Malmo, ie: I didn't notice large numbers of any minority, but Malmo was totally different, and with time I would imagine that the numbers have grown considerably in the ten years or so since I was last there.

The Hill Billy

Gnobe wrote: »

It's a duty for rich countries to help out the poorer nations. Many people in those countries dream of being over here. Why oppose? There's plenty of space here.

That really is a ridiculously simplistic argument to put forward. So I shall respond in a simple manner that I hope you will understand:

There's plenty of space in Antarctica & Siberia. But do people from less developed countries want to move there? No. They want to move to what are perceived as richer countries as they feel that the opportunities available there will allow them a better standard of living.

That better standard of living comes at a cost. It is funded by the hard work & taxes of the people who work there already. The standard of living in Ireland is dropping due to our economic situation. There are less jobs for both natives & immigrants.

If work travel restrictions were removed & free immigration were allowed & people from 'poorer' nations moved here in there droves - what would happen? There'd be feck all jobs, they'd end up having to rely on state benefits & already overstretched state services & we'd all be royally screwed.

You are correct though that 'rich' countries should help out 'poor' countries. However, this should be done by supporting poorer local economies through investment & closer cultural & economic ties - not by taking ferry-loads of natives back home.

But back to your original statement in the thread title - "...It Is Very Racist To Oppose Immigration." Why is it racist? I don't think that you actually understand the meaning of the word if you put it in that context.

I oppose a free-for-all immigration policy in Ireland. My opposition is based on simple economics & sustainability (see above). My opposition is not based on me considering that every non-Irish person is genetically or culturally inferior to me & other Irish people.

sollar

If we do not want to end up like the UK or sweden then we need to be very careful with immigration. They have alot of different cultures that have not integrated well with british or swedish society at all.

Other nationalities are welcome here if they intrgrate well. If they want to come in and stick to themselves then go home is my opinion.

Also we should be aiming for a secular society. Peoples religion should a private matter at all times. No laws or ways we do things should change out of fear of insulting others religious beliefs.

If their sensibilities are insulted by what they see here.... move on.

Bloody Nipples

tallus wrote: »

So was mine... a personal observation I mean.

I didn't find Stockholm to be anything like Malmo, ie: I didn't notice large numbers of any minority, but Malmo was totally different, and with time I would imagine that the numbers have grown considerably in the ten years or so since I was last there.

One town with a Muslim-population that is apparently disproportionate to the rest of the country is a poor example. It's like using Gort as an example of the Brazilian population and their impact in Ireland.

On the OP's question it's only racist to oppose immigration if the grounds for this opposition are merely the fact that the person comes from another country.

Amhran Nua

dxhound2005 wrote: »

This is what the OP wrote in another thread recently. I think he is a bit mad.

I've spotted a few almost exactly similar threads recently as well, so probably a re-reg/multiple account. Someone is very determinedly pushing a particularly demented agenda.

Also, the OP is a blatant racist: "I also think Europe and Ireland in particular is too white, racial wise."

dvpower

sollar wrote: »

If we do not want to end up like the UK or sweden then we need to be very careful with immigration. They have alot of different cultures that have not integrated well with british or swedish society at all.

I'd have thought that Britain, while not without problems, is reasonably well integrated.
But God forbid Ireland would ever end up like Sweeden:rolleyes:

sollar

dvpower wrote: »

I'd have thought that Britain, while not without problems, is reasonably well integrated.

The UK is having major problems with integration and many think immigration has gone to far.

Why would i want to be like sweden. Is sweden some kind of utopia?

MIN2511

There are two groups of immigrants in Ireland; the highly skilled and the asylum seekers. When i refer to immigrants here I mean - Non EU.

The highly skilled immigrants are subjected to a very strict application process; similar to Australia, Canada and the UK. If successful, majority of these people do their best to integrate, they are high earners so can afford to live in the good areas, they raise their children accordingly.

The biggest problem with immigrants in Ireland is the segregation; some have integrated while others stick to their own communities. The reason for this is because of the constant begrudgery and racism which is slowly increasing with the current economic climate.

Immigrants are not the cause of the recession; most of them do not own houses as they are what we call 'economic' immigrants, they will need to be on a different stamp to acquire a mortgage (even when the banks were throwing mortgages at every Tom, Dick and Harry) and are subjected to stricter rules.

Now the asylum seekers; there are some genuine cases for seeking asylum and others have and are milking the system. Most asylum seekers are put in state accommodation until their cases are heard; if successful they are then placed in permanent accommodation and receive state benefits.

During the Celtic tiger, Ireland could afford to foot the bill - now we can't. My biggest problem with the asylum system in Ireland is the fact that there was no real incentive for integration, education and progression.

As human beings, constant improvement should be our priority - How to better ourselves. These asylum seekers are being given money to survive, no real system to allow them work/seek employment, self improvement e.t.c.
There should be a overhaul of the current process to change things for the better, this does not seem to be priority in the current governments’ agenda.

In 2006; the Polish people in Ireland sent over 1billion Euro to Poland. One of the reasons why AIB set up in Poland...
When the going was good we welcomed immigrants; we were happy for them to do jobs we couldn’t do and now when things are bad we want them to leave. It doesn’t work that way; what we all need to do is stop looking for people to blame and work towards bringing Ireland out of the mess we’re in. Our future, our generation’s future is at risk here and the sooner we work towards a better Ireland the earlier we pay off the €85bn to the IMF


I should also add; it’s not racist to oppose immigration.

Biggins

Gnobe wrote: »

I've been delving into some of these polls about immigration across Europe, and I'm particularly disturbed that virtually every european country supports some kind of restrictions on immigration (in Ireland it's 70% even before the recession).

I've always wondered why so many people support "restrictions" on immigration? Why? Why does it matter who or what lives next to you?

The world is getting smaller, the concept of nation states will disappear at some point and we'll probably merge together into single nation state. I also believe the world (or at least Europe and America) will be majority mixed race by sometime this century. I've never understood why people wont just live and let live.

We're all from the human race and we all share this planet god dammit. No one has a right to tell anyone else where to live. Tear down the borders and let humanity live together.

I don't know where to start ...but others have made good points already!

dvpower

sollar wrote: »

The UK is having major problems with integration and many think immigration has gone to far.

Its probably true that attitudes in the UK are currently hardening, but they have a long and largely sucessful history of immigration.

sollar wrote: »

Why would i want to be like sweden. Is sweden some kind of utopia?

In comparision to Ireland 2011, yes.

dj jarvis

richymcdermott wrote: »

im sick of this word racist being thrown around all the time

indeed

not wanting "others" coming 2 your country is not racist unless you single out a RACE
not wanting anyone coming and ( hopefully) taking our women is plain
old xenophobia

never the twain shall meet

( i have always found racism in Ireland is actually color based and not really on race - the irish dont seem to mind the white races that much ,
but by god a "dark fella" comes along and watch them shout " feckin Nigerians " and the poor fella probably comes from Gabon :eek: )

mikemac

Your employment situation is going to affect your viewpoint.

If you have a secure job or maybe use Irish language for some State body or have a particularly good job you might not see the issue at all with immigration.

But if you live in Gort and looking for a laboring job or a job in a meat factory you may be wondering why you are competing with thousands of Brazilians. Same in the hotel industry all over Ireland.

Easy to wonder what the fuss is about immigration when you are in your good job on 50k a year.
But the man in Gort who wonders out loud what happened here is racist according to the OP

Of course you read a lot of boards that Irish people reckoned they were too good for these jobs. But who did them before? And with the education system in Ireland it's pretty normal people will try to move on, I did hotel work for years and moved onto something else.
The way JLC rates are being undercut doesn't help either

Amhran Nua

dj jarvis wrote: »

( i have always found racism in Ireland is actually color based and not really on race - the irish dont seem to mind the white races that much ,
but by god a "dark fella" comes along and watch them shout " feckin Nigerians " and the poor fella probably comes from Gabon :eek: )

Where have you found that? In my experience the only people shouting abuse are the same ones that would be shouting abuse no matter who comes along. There is zero evidence for widespread anti immigrant attitudes in Ireland. Certainly compared to say the UK.

SharpshooterTom

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Also, the OP is a blatant racist: "I also think Europe and Ireland in particular is too white, racial wise."

What? I think europe is too homogenous and is not racially diverse enough? What's wrong with that?

I would like it more racially diverse? And you're saying that's racist?