Tardelli wants to take over from Trap

chughes

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/tardelli-eager-to-take-over-ireland-job-when-trap-steps-down-2621262.html

I see Marco Tardelli wants to manage Ireland after Trappatoni steps down from the job.

I'm in two minds about this but, on balance, I'd probably give him the job.

What do you guys think ?

PCPhoto

same methods .... same return

meh ... cant really do worse can he ? .... does he expect traps wages ??

grenache

Nooooo thanks! I've had enough of the rubbish football, playing not to lose and continually selecting second rate players while leaving the best ones on the bench or not in the squad at all!

Irishrossoblu

Respect to Trap as he has done a great job, but it may be time for a change. Tardelli is a very poor mans Trap.

Kinetic^

grenache wrote: »

playing not to lose

Yeah, playing to lose is what we want, good job buddy.

SantryRed

Irishrossoblu wrote: »

Respect to Trap as he has done a great job, but it may be time for a change. Tardelli is a very poor mans Trap.

No he hasn't.

Paparazzo

grenache wrote: »

Nooooo thanks! I've had enough of the rubbish football, playing not to lose and continually selecting second rate players while leaving the best ones on the bench or not in the squad at all!

Agreed. So many people aren't going to matches because they're so dire to watch

Kinetic^

Paparazzo wrote: »

Agreed. So many people aren't going to matches because they're so dire to watch

Ticket prices is the main issue.

That_Guy

I wouldn't particularly like that proposal. Would just be a step sideways in my opinion.

tonycascarino

No thanks!

YeatsCounty

Who would you have take over then? N/B: It has to be someone who would genuinely take the job if offered.

Trap's methods have a lot of question marks over them and rightly so but they're certainly more effective than his immediate predecessor's.

newballsplease

YeatsCounty wrote: »

Who would you have take over then? N/B: It has to be someone who would genuinely take the job if offered.

Trap's methods have a lot of question marks over them and rightly so but they're certainly more effective than his immediate predecessor's.

Would Martin O neill take it? maybe not.

TheDoc

chughes wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/tardelli-eager-to-take-over-ireland-job-when-trap-steps-down-2621262.html

I see Marco Tardelli wants to manage Ireland after Trappatoni steps down from the job.

I'm in two minds about this but, on balance, I'd probably give him the job.

What do you guys think ?

I'm in the " thanks but no thanks"

This administration of Italian input has been dire for the national team in my view.

Need a young coach willing to let players play some creative football, and ancourage creative play from our current crop of midfield axe murders.

Chris Houghton anyone?

I just want someone who will make it worth my while watching Irish football agian, I turn off every Ireland game after 45 minutes in the last couple of years, absolute dribble.

Fair enough if we were like a Chelsea in mourinho era being hard to beat, bit bland to look at but getting results, we on the other hand play bland dribble, with no rock solidness and concede goals and games to mugs : /

inforfun

The games are pretty awefull to watch but at least Ireland has been competitive to a certain degree.
Not sure if another manager with another style of playing the game would have had the same results.

Renn

Kinetic^ wrote: »

Ticket prices is the main issue.

Not really. Prices are not far off what they were years ago. I don't go any more because it's awful to watch

Paully D

That's that then - he has as good as got the job.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Hank_Jones

I would think Trap has done fairly well for the pool of players that we have.

As a country we seem to think that our players are better than they actually are.

We have no world class players at all.
It might not be attractive football, but compared to how squads have done under previous managers, I think we are doing alright.

Jack Charlton played shit football and we made 2 World Cups and a European Championship,
people will change their tune if trap gets us into a tournament.

However, no thanks Tardelli, don't really want an understudy as manager.

OhNoYouDidn't

I said it about a year ago and about 6 months ago again. Tardelli has the job, contract in back pocket.

OhNoYouDidn't

Hank_Jones wrote: »

However, no thanks Tardelli, don't really want an understudy as manager.

He has managed Inter and Bari, amongst others ffs.

craggles

TheDoc wrote: »

Need a young coach willing to let players play some creative football, and ancourage creative play from our current crop of midfield axe murders.

Chris Houghton anyone?

I just want someone who will make it worth my while watching Irish football agian, I turn off every Ireland game after 45 minutes in the last couple of years, absolute dribble.
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Opinions like this are incredible, you must have your head on the ****ing moon! We don't have the players to play the kind of football you want to see. If we tried to play like that it would look great for brief periods but we'd be losing most games 4-1 against any decent teams.

OhNoYouDidn't

craggles wrote: »

Opinions like this are incredible, you must have your head on the ****ing moon! We don't have the players to play the kind of football you want to see. If we tried to play like that it would look great for brief periods but we'd be losing most games 4-1 against any decent teams.

It intrigues me that the ole ole brigade lapped up route one football from Charlton with an incredible squad of players, but despise Trapp getting direct football from an absolutely awful squad.

What has changed?

SantryRed

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

It intrigues me that the ole ole brigade lapped up route one football from Charlton with an incredible squad of players, but despise Trapp getting direct football from an absolutely awful squad.

What has changed?

What was Charlton's famous line? ''Put them under pressure''.

I've no problem with direct football if done right. But Trap doesn't. His tactic is lump it long and wait for it to come back again.

CorkMan

Hopefully he can speak some english.

OhNoYouDidn't

SantryRed wrote: »

What was Charlton's famous line? ''Put them under pressure''.

I've no problem with direct football if done right. But Trap doesn't. His tactic is lump it long and wait for it to come back again.

Which is based on the fact we have no central midfielders capable of mixing with the top sides.

Now as it happens I wouldnt pick the midfield he does, but substantively he is right. We have a poor squad and tactics have to match that.

TheDoc

craggles wrote: »

Opinions like this are incredible, you must have your head on the ****ing moon! We don't have the players to play the kind of football you want to see. If we tried to play like that it would look great for brief periods but we'd be losing most games 4-1 against any decent teams.

In various other threads I've pointed out as to WHY we dont have these sorts of players.

But it doesnt help when the players are available that they are not played.

If your telling me there is no more creative quality midfielders for Ireland then Whelan and the other shower of hatchet men, then I'd query whose head is in the moon tbh : /

OhNoYouDidn't

TheDoc wrote: »

In various other threads I've pointed out as to WHY we dont have these sorts of players.

But it doesnt help when the players are available that they are not played.

If your telling me there is no more creative quality midfielders for Ireland then Whelan and the other shower of hatchet men, then I'd query whose head is in the moon tbh : /

Ok, I will bite. Who are better holding midfielders who are fit and available_

TheDoc

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Ok, I will bite. Who are better holding midfielders who are fit and available_

I said I've outlined it on numerous different threads. The reason why there is such a small pool to pick from.

I'm not doubting the fact that midfield selection we have to make from is utterly piss poor, I think you compliment them too much as holding midfielders, they are just clueless midfielders.

But I've no doubt there is more expressive talented footballers knocking around that could do a better job but probably wont get a look in, there are guys here who follow irish footballers more then I do who maybe can provide some insight.

But surely there are better options then

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And where ever that other moron is playing with. I'm not about bringing back the dead, but surely we have some options worth exploring.

Having a holding midfielder yeah, rather neccesity in the modern conservative game on the international front, but having two, kinda hopeless? ugh.

Atleast Gibson has a bit of forward drive I'll give him that, Whelan, Andrews and that other red haired lad we had for two games...away to the pastures please

But I'll agree on your point that in terms of "High profile" fit and available players, there are none. But then we dont have any high profile midfielders at the moment. Thats not to say we have high quality and high potential knocking about.

Hank_Jones

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

He has managed Inter and Bari, amongst others ffs.

From wikipedia:

led Tardelli to became the manager of Internazionale for the 2000–01 season. His tenure with the Nerazzurri would be short, following a string of embarrassing defeats especially a 6–0 defeat to local rivals AC Milan, Tardelli was fired in June 2001.

OhNoYouDidn't

TheDoc wrote: »

I said I've outlined it on numerous different threads. The reason why there is such a small pool to pick from.

I'm not doubting the fact that midfield selection we have to make from is utterly piss poor, I think you compliment them too much as holding midfielders, they are just clueless midfielders.

But I've no doubt there is more expressive talented footballers knocking around that could do a better job but probably wont get a look in, there are guys here who follow irish footballers more then I do who maybe can provide some insight.

But surely there are better options then

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And where ever that other moron is playing with. I'm not about bringing back the dead, but surely we have some options worth exploring.

Having a holding midfielder yeah, rather neccesity in the modern conservative game on the international front, but having two, kinda hopeless? ugh.

Atleast Gibson has a bit of forward drive I'll give him that, Whelan, Andrews and that other red haired lad we had for two games...away to the pastures please

But I'll agree on your point that in terms of "High profile" fit and available players, there are none. But then we dont have any high profile midfielders at the moment. Thats not to say we have high quality and high potential knocking about.

So thats nobody then...

When I see people whine about Andrews and Whelan, I dont necessarily disagree that they are poor, but who else?

McCarthy and Meyler arent ready for it quite yet

TheDoc

My point is that surely there are other avenues that havnt been explored.

Being poor and playing poor should pave the way for other players to come in and prove themselves

I find it hard to belief that we are ment to sit and stomach those lads in the midfield for the next 5-10 years.

I'm assuming there is understudies on the bench, or players flagged as potential first team starters.

Its about time they got their chance, we have all seen our current midfield crop and what they can and more pressingly CAN'T do.

Our setup is built on being solid defensively, which we are definitly not, and trying to nick the odd goal, problem being that our attacking force isnt as great as most might think.

I would imagine there is someone better, probably in the under 21 setup or maybe sitting on the bench, but its about time they got thrown inthe mix.

And Jamie O Hara imo is someone the FAI should be making more of an approached effort to sway into the green shirt, I really like what he does on the pitch. And for him saying he'd prefer to play for England, I'd say he wants to play international football, and beggers cant be choosers.

Pinturicchio

He's basically a failed manager. He never lasted much more than a year anywhere and his biggest achievement in management is promotion from Serie C1 to Serie B.

Eire-Dearg

Some disgrace that we played bad football alright, that Irish squad is so full of attacking flair, goals and creativity. Damn you Trap.

grenache

Kinetic^ wrote: »

Yeah, playing to lose is what we want, good job buddy.

You knew exactly what i meant. If you're not going to add anything constructive to the conversation, then why bother posting.

Renn

I really wish more Irish players/managers went to countries other than England/Scotland...International team could really do with that.

Renn

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Some disgrace that we played bad football alright, that Irish squad is so full of attacking flair, goals and creativity. Damn you Trap.

I like your sarcasm but we really don't know how creative the team is since they're restricted by the manager so much to actually create

CorkMan

I wonder if RTÉ pays for Trappatoni's translator?