Keeping a vehicle for offroad purposes only.

Quattroste

I did and offroad day last week and have a bit of a bug for more. However, I only did the green laning in my Range Rover and although the car could manage well, both myself and the wife were a bit too worried about damaging it to really enjoy every moment. (And the kids kept calling me a chicken for not driving the intermediate obstacles :mad:)

I'm looking to pick up an old Defender 90 or similar to continue this but I don't want to have to pay road tax or NCT or anything like that. I'd trailor it too and from the forests/events.

Is this legal if I don't use it on the roads at all?
If I buy a UK one will I have to pay duty to re-register?

_Conrad_

if you want to EVER use it on a public road you will have to pay to register it, and to get it tested and pay tax. but if you never take it on a road and simply trailer it everywhere just take the plates off it so you don't get attention while you're towing it (in case some nosy gard or customs fella thinks you're just after importing it and wants to talk to you, its happened to me). Also make it look very offroad-ish, leave it dirty and have some stickers etc on it, like those white "number board" stickers. That way anyone with half a brain will assume it's being used for some kind of non road based activity

101sean

I'm sure it's OK, lot's of lads trailer old Suzukis and the like to events, there's no way some of them would pass a test (they're not unsafe, just not road legal).

There are some events though that do require road work between stages if you really get in to it. Keep an eye on Donedeal, been some extreme machines on there recently, some good, some downright awful :rolleyes:

Not sure the cage on this meets competition regs but looks fun http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/commercials/2000835

Quattroste

101sean wrote: »

Not sure the cage on this meets competition regs but looks fun http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/commercials/2000835

I'm not sure I'd do it for competition and I did see that one, tempting. I'd like a back seat though(kids) and I do love the shape of a Defender 90.

101sean

D90s do come up for sale here now and then, more choice in the UK. An old Series 88" can be fun as well, one with V8 and parabolic springs sold on DoneDeal a couple of days ago http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/2056303

Quattroste

B@ll@x, and V8 too. Where would you keep an eye out for a 88 or 90? Donedeal, Gumtree, Autotrader......

WestWicklow1

It's completely legal to have a vehicle without nct/doe and road tax provided it is never on a public road. That's how my 70 series landcruiser is and goes to and from the forest on a trailer.

Save yourself heartache and money with a landcruiser instead!!

PM sent on your other query.

101sean

Interesting Land Rovers will appear on the the Ireland Section of Land Rover Addicts http://www.landroveraddict.com/smf/index.php?board=41.0 as well as DD and Gumtree.

Ignore that heathen WW1, stick with us true believers!

If you do want to go the heretics route, there is a 'cruiser forum here www.lcoc.ie There's other options as well, battered Suzukis and Dahatsus are very capable and can be had very cheap.

Quattroste

Ah the old Rover v's Cruiser one.

Thanks for the info gents!

Del2005

Quattroste wrote: »

I did and offroad day last week and have a bit of a bug for more. However, I only did the green laning in my Range Rover and although the car could manage well, both myself and the wife were a bit too worried about damaging it to really enjoy every moment. (And the kids kept calling me a chicken for not driving the intermediate obstacles :mad:)

I'm looking to pick up an old Defender 90 or similar to continue this but I don't want to have to pay road tax or NCT or anything like that. I'd trailor it too and from the forests/events.

Is this legal if I don't use it on the roads at all?
If I buy a UK one will I have to pay duty to re-register?

Have you got an EB or any E+ licence? You want to make sure you're legally allowed to tow the 4x4 on a trailer. as no mater what way you try and calculate it a 4x4 towing a 4x4 on a trailer is going to exceed the B towing limit.

Quattroste

I've been thinking about a different method to have a Land Rover for off road and it's the Classic Car route.

This way I can insure and tax it for road use.

If I go for a Series III will I be able to use one of these off road or would the age mean many repairs after each outing. I'm not talking extreme here. Just green laning and maybe intermediate.

Del2005

You could go the Hybrid route. Old chassis everything else brand new, still a classic:D

tinofapples

I've been thinking about getting something similar on a small budget. I got sorted with a daily runabout (A compromise so I'd had money for a "toy"). I was looking at a Grand Cherokee today, this one as it happens:

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/commercials/2161335

Am I insane thinking about Jeep ? Bear in mind I won't be depending on it daily, maybe a weekend driver, in the bog/woods on farmland. The niggly things that can go wrong with these wouldn't be of huge importance i.e elec windows.

Are the engines pretty reliable on them ? This one has only 113k miles on it. I'd be leaving it on the english plates, would I be able to transfer ownership through the dvla with difficulties ?

Had thought about a mid 90's Pajero but they seem hard to find under 1000 at the moment, yer man today mentioned that alot are being bought up for export.

liam7831

Could you then run that jeep on green tractor diesel if it was never on the road??

I heard of revenue still dipping jeeps that are just used on farms by entering farm yards

Can you totally deregister it for agri use or what ?

tinofapples

liam7831 wrote: »

Could you then run that jeep on green tractor diesel if it was never on the road??

I heard of revenue still dipping jeeps that are just used on farms by entering farm yards

Can you totally deregister it for agri use or what ?

If the Cherokee were diesel that's exactly what I'd be doing.

tinofapples

Well fella's ? Do ye think a grand cherokee will be okay for the occasional bog/wood/field use ?

tinofapples

I bought myself the Grand Cherokee, took delivery of it yesterday and took her to the bog in the evening. Great fun it has to be said.

Here's how shes looking on my driveway: