20k budget! Audi TT 2007 or BMW 3 series 2007?

japasca

Hey,

Been looking at upgrading my A3, but i cant decide what to get.
Have a 20K to 22k budget and have been looking at 3 Series coupes, 325i and 335i and a 335d if i could find one.
Also checking out TT's.
Any owners here who can say which is better to drive?
Are all TT's quattro?
Which would have better resale value?
Is a TT a so called "hairdressers car" in your opinion?
What models should be avoided?

Any comments and help would be appreciated, Thanks

vectra

If it were my choice I would go for the 335d

sdanseo

Wouldn't touch a TT if you're a guy. They just seethe "prick" for a reason I can't explain.

Edit: I know shag all about BMW engine sizes, but http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2048582 is amazing looking, although a bit early for the low tax ( say goodbye to €1250 a year for this beaut).

PaulKK

sdonn wrote: »

Go for a nice A4 or 325. If you go for a 335, chances are you won't get a great one newer than July 08 and the tax will cripple you.

*Sigh.*

Or Jan 08.

How do people still not know this? It literally comes up every week here.

dudara

Murphy & Gunn in Milltown have a lovely 318i M Sport Saloon for sale for €19k. I test drove it at the weekend and it's a lovely machine.

I know it's not a coupé or 325 etc but I did like the handling and feel of the car.

copacetic

BMW without a doubt, try to hold out for a 3L if at all possible. The 325i is very smooth and the NA engine is ultra reliable, but the twin turbos in the 335s make for a stunning drive. If willing to pay the tax on an 07 should get something within your budget.

Most people just want the look and/or the low tax so 320ds are the much more common and popular option. So the larger engines are rarer but can be on the market longer, meaning you may get a deal off someone who needs to sell.

The 6 cylinder models come with a few extra specs as standard as do the E92s over the E90s so keep that in mind when comparing prices.

japasca

sdonn wrote: »

Wouldn't touch a TT if you're a guy. They just seethe "prick" for a reason I can't explain.

Edit: I know shag all about BMW engine sizes, but http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2048582 is amazing looking, although a bit early for the low tax ( say goodbye to €1250 a year for this beaut).

Ya i've looked at that one a bit alright! Miles are just a touch on the high side as i dont want to be selling her in two years with 100k miles on the clock.
I've already accepted that i'll be screwed on the tax so thats not a problem.
Cheers

japasca

copacetic wrote: »

BMW without a doubt, try to hold out for a 3L if at all possible. The 325i is very smooth and the NA engine is ultra reliable, but the twin turbos in the 335s make for a stunning drive. If willing to pay the tax on an 07 should get something within your budget.

Most people just want the look and/or the low tax so 320ds are the much more common and popular option. So the larger engines are rarer but can be on the market longer, meaning you may get a deal off someone who needs to sell.

The 6 cylinder models come with a few extra specs as standard as do the E92s over the E90s so keep that in mind when comparing prices.

Ya i've been looking for a 335i and this is the best i could find....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/i-SE-335/201114201875284/advert?channel=CARS


Love the low miles, and colour. Shame id doesnt have iDrive, and the seats are a big gammy looking.
The bumpers also look different to other coupes i've looked at. More plain or something!
Do you know off hand what type of extras i can expect on that car compared to the saloon or 325i?
Looks like the BMW is winning over the TT on boards anyway!

sdanseo

Meant to add that despite my previous post, I would never buy a two door car myself. It's for some people but I couldn't do without the 4 - and that's with no kids or family. Imagine if you had!

I always thought coupes just feel like they have a little bit missing...but at the same time they have a je ne sais quoi that saloons don't!

PaulKK wrote: »

*Sigh.*

Or Jan 08.

How do people still not know this? It literally comes up every week here.

That's me learnt so!

japasca

sdonn wrote: »

Meant to add that despite my previous post, I would never buy a two door car myself. It's for some people but I couldn't do without the 4 - and that's with no kids or family. Imagine if you had!

I always thought coupes just feel like they have a little bit missing...but at the same time they have a je ne sais quoi that saloons don't!



That's me learnt so!

I've only ever had 2 door cars! Never once missed having back doors. Sometimes my bum friends complain tho

copacetic

japasca wrote: »

Ya i've been looking for a 335i and this is the best i could find....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/i-SE-335/201114201875284/advert?channel=CARS


Love the low miles, and colour. Shame id doesnt have iDrive, and the seats are a big gammy looking.
The bumpers also look different to other coupes i've looked at. More plain or something!
Do you know off hand what type of extras i can expect on that car compared to the saloon or 325i?
Looks like the BMW is winning over the TT on boards anyway!

Not sure in interior colour alright and the SE isn't as pretty as the msport alright. The late 07 on 325 is 3.0L and 6 cylinder so same standard spec as the 335 in E92 form.

There is quite a spec variation from SE to Msport and 6 cylinder to 4 on the E92. Then quite a spec variation from e92 to e90, you'll have to look at the specs in detail to get a feel for it. As they change from year to year also. Look for stuff like xenons, electric memory seats, auto lights and wipers, cruise control. Then the 6 pots have some features that can't be spec'd on 4 like adaptive brakes, oil temp dials, criuse control marker.

japasca

copacetic wrote: »

Not sure in interior colour alright and the SE isn't as pretty as the msport alright. The late 07 on 325 is 3.0L and 6 cylinder so same standard spec as the 335 in E92 form.

There is quite a spec variation from SE to Msport and 6 cylinder to 4 on the E92. Then quite a spec variation from e92 to e90, you'll have to look at the specs in detail to get a feel for it. As they change from year to year also. Look for stuff like xenons, electric memory seats, auto lights and wipers, cruise control. Then the 6 pots have some features that can't be spec'd on 4 like adaptive brakes, oil temp dials, criuse control marker.

Ya i noticed that some of the 325i's were 3.0L alright. But i figured if your going to get stung with 3 Litre tax then just get the 335i and dont regret it later. Wont be buying for another couple of weeks so hope a nice MSport comes on the market by then.
Do you reckon that dealers will be willing to give good discounts on these large engined petrol cars in the current climate?
What would be a resonable offer for the 335i i linked in yere opinion?
Cheers

enfant terrible

Prefer the look of the TT.

copacetic

japasca wrote: »

Ya i noticed that some of the 325i's were 3.0L alright. But i figured if your going to get stung with 3 Litre tax then just get the 335i and dont regret it later. Wont be buying for another couple of weeks so hope a nice MSport comes on the market by then.
Do you reckon that dealers will be willing to give good discounts on these large engined petrol cars in the current climate?
What would be a resonable offer for the 335i i linked in yere opinion?
Cheers

True I suppose for a 07, for the 08 you pay a lot less for the 325 in tax. For that 335 its hard to say, lovely to drive, poor interior and small wheels put me off but it's priced pretty well and lowish mileage, I doubt the seller will be willing to move much on it. You would know more when you see it and have a good luck at the service book.

opinion guy

japasca wrote: »

Hey,

Been looking at upgrading my A3, but i cant decide what to get.
Have a 20K to 22k budget and have been looking at 3 Series coupes, 325i and 335i and a 335d if i could find one.
Also checking out TT's.
Any owners here who can say which is better to drive?
Are all TT's quattro?
Which would have better resale value?
Is a TT a so called "hairdressers car" in your opinion?
What models should be avoided?

Any comments and help would be appreciated, Thanks

As far as I know some TT's don't have quattro. But if you askl me there is not point in an audi without quattro.

Why not import a second hand RS4 or S5 or some such thing ?

japasca

japasca wrote: »

Ya i've been looking for a 335i and this is the best i could find....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/i-SE-335/201114201875284/advert?channel=CARS

Different class to a TT Buy one of them and you'll never look at anyone in a TT enviously, buy a TT and I doubt you won't regret buying a 335i. Of course early 335i are know for having rattly wastegates due to more or less a design flaw, wouldn't fancy shelling out for repairs for that issue I'd quite fancy a year's warranty if I was getting one so private sale would be a no no.

galwaytt

japasca wrote: »

Looks like the BMW is winning over the TT on boards anyway!

LOL, that's just 'cos the car you should really buy hasn't been mentioned yet.





















Skoda Superb.







(I'll get my coat) :P

LightStar

Have owned a 2007 Audi TT until this year. They are not all 4WD. The 2litre turbo is a good engine , just depends what kind of driving you are doing.

Moved to the 335 in Feb, its an SE with upgraded seats and built in Idrive. 19" rim. 308bhp will never see you looking for more power!

Its far better built and feels like new and much more solid then the Audi.

The 335 is higher tax and running costs (30Mpg best you will get) (33mpg from the Audi)

The BMW is fair bigger and has everything you will need.

Just make sure you get a high spec.....

af_thefragile

Get a Mercedes CL500 for €10k and save the rest for paying taxes, petrol, insurance etc.

That's what I'ld do if I had 20k to spend on a car...

japasca

LightStar wrote: »

Have owned a 2007 Audi TT until this year. They are not all 4WD. The 2litre turbo is a good engine , just depends what kind of driving you are doing.

Moved to the 335 in Feb, its an SE with upgraded seats and built in Idrive. 19" rim. 308bhp will never see you looking for more power!

Its far better built and feels like new and much more solid then the Audi.

The 335 is higher tax and running costs (30Mpg best you will get) (33mpg from the Audi)

The BMW is fair bigger and has everything you will need.

Just make sure you get a high spec.....

Hey Lighstar,
Cheers for the advice. I've actually kinda been swayed towards the TT over the last week. Like this one.....
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/COUPE-2./201050200595781/advert?channel=CARS

It has a high spec, with very low miles and a dsg!
I figure that the audi will be easier to sell when the time comes too.
I'm gonna go test driving this week and see for myself about the build quality difference.
Whats the ride like on the tt? Did you get the upgraded suspension on yours?
Thanks

lomb

af_thefragile wrote: »

Get a Mercedes CL500 for €10k and save the rest for paying taxes, petrol, insurance etc.

That's what I'ld do if I had 20k to spend on a car...

Nice choice, a 05 350sl for about 25 or so is very appealing ( New 148k.)
Absolutely savage depreciation. Why not take advantage of it? If I was spending that sort of money on a used car I probably wouldnt be looking at 07 or 08 TTs for that very reason.
I think a new model TT is coming in 2012 that will be much more based on the original TT, the head designer acknowledged the MK2 is a bid bland and not a trend setter. That will destroy MK2 values imo in 2013 or so.
The lack of quattro except on diesels and enthusiast petrol versions(TTS and TTRS) is unforgivable for those models without.) Undoubtedly due to fuel economy/co2 as well as cost savings and being able to get much more for the enthusiast versions.

LightStar

japasca wrote: »

Hey Lighstar,
Cheers for the advice. I've actually kinda been swayed towards the TT over the last week. Like this one.....
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/COUPE-2./201050200595781/advert?channel=CARS

It has a high spec, with very low miles and a dsg!
I figure that the audi will be easier to sell when the time comes too.
I'm gonna go test driving this week and see for myself about the build quality difference.
Whats the ride like on the tt? Did you get the upgraded suspension on yours?
Thanks

Spec looks ok, I had the extended leather interior which looked well (leather on the doors and around the gear column, also covering the speedo area. Also the aluminum pack, which is chrome trim over the interior door handles , pedals and glove box.. all nice options

Dsg is a must the pedals are great fun, but if you are motorway driving, you'll never you it, slip into sport and that will do!

I was running 19", ride was hard and unforgiving but thats to be expected on 235/35/19s!!!

The car your looking at could have been given a wash before putting pictures up!

You're right about resale, the audi (still a small market though) will be easier to ship on but the depreciation has already hit on both the TT and the 335. From my point of view the 335 is special car....its an experience to drive.....

Test drive both.....and take them on the open road... :-)

what kind of driving are you doing, long distance , city , short stints??

conneem-TT

japasca wrote: »

Hey Lighstar,
Cheers for the advice. I've actually kinda been swayed towards the TT over the last week. Like this one.....
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/COUPE-2./201050200595781/advert?channel=CARS

It has a high spec, with very low miles and a dsg!
I figure that the audi will be easier to sell when the time comes too.
I'm gonna go test driving this week and see for myself about the build quality difference.
Whats the ride like on the tt? Did you get the upgraded suspension on yours?
Thanks

Like LightStar has mentioned that one is missing a few of the essential options like Aluminium pack (which seemed to be standard pretty much everywhere but here), extended leather ect... Also the wheels are very badly curbed and being two tone with a polished face are hard to refurb.

I have seen much better examples on Carzone but maybe not as at as low a price.

Test drive both as others have said and see what suits you the best. The motor in the 335i is excellent but you may prefer the agility of the 300kg lighter TT. Also while you can squeeze in 2 in the back of the TT for short journey's the rear seats in the 3 series would be much more accommodating.

and finally just a little propaganda

J77

Have you considered the 330d or the 325d alongside the petrol equivalents or would you only go for the 335d in terms of the diesel engines? Same 3l engine in them (infact I think the 335d might use the older one as used in the e39 530d just with an additional turbo?) even the 325d is still ~200bhp + more torque than the petrol. If you looked to the UK you could bring back a decent one and clear it within budget.

Defo wouldn't settle for a 318i if you were looking at the 6 pots.

langdang

Hyundai Coupe V6 :cool: wake up and smell the creme fraiche losers...



serious sarcasm here, for anyone whose sarcasm rather is down this morning... just can't take any of these "you need a vag to drive a VAG TT" threads seriously

pajo1981

J77 wrote: »

Have you considered the 330d or the 325d alongside the petrol equivalents or would you only go for the 335d in terms of the diesel engines? Same 3l engine in them (infact I think the 335d might use the older one as used in the e39 530d just with an additional turbo?) even the 325d is still ~200bhp + more torque than the petrol. If you looked to the UK you could bring back a decent one and clear it within budget.

Defo wouldn't settle for a 318i if you were looking at the 6 pots.

I found the 3 diesel in the 3 to be nose-heavy, imo.

J77

pajo1981 wrote: »

I found the 3 diesel in the 3 to be nose-heavy, imo.

Don't understand why they never offered the 23d engine in the 3 series. Alpina appreciate how good a match they are. Once the 330d and 335d were still available I don't think anyone would miss the 325d.

LightStar

conneem-TT wrote: »

Like LightStar has mentioned that one is missing a few of the essential options like Aluminium pack (which seemed to be standard pretty much everywhere but here), extended leather ect... Also the wheels are very badly curbed and being two tone with a polished face are hard to refurb.

I have seen much better examples on Carzone but maybe not as at as low a price.

Test drive both as others have said and see what suits you the best. The motor in the 335i is excellent but you may prefer the agility of the 300kg lighter TT. Also while you can squeeze in 2 in the back of the TT for short journey's the rear seats in the 3 series would be much more accommodating.

and finally just a little propaganda

thats cheating conneem.....thats the 3.2 v6.....lovely car though....had the mkI 3.2.....sounded great :-)

japasca

conneem-TT wrote: »

Like LightStar has mentioned that one is missing a few of the essential options like Aluminium pack (which seemed to be standard pretty much everywhere but here), extended leather ect... Also the wheels are very badly curbed and being two tone with a polished face are hard to refurb.

I have seen much better examples on Carzone but maybe not as at as low a price.

Test drive both as others have said and see what suits you the best. The motor in the 335i is excellent but you may prefer the agility of the 300kg lighter TT. Also while you can squeeze in 2 in the back of the TT for short journey's the rear seats in the 3 series would be much more accommodating.

and finally just a little propaganda

Was just looking at this one conneem, and noticed that the pictures are very similar in style to the ones you posted. Any connection?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/COUPE-2./201109201422819/advert?channel=CARS

Anyway, no longer looking at Diesel BMW's. I have no commute and most of my driving is short trips around town and suburbs. My annual mileage would be 10,000km max. Would love to get one of the audi's with seriously low mileage..... http://www.carzone.ie/search/vehicleCompare?channel=CARS&site=CARZONE
however the spec of the Dolphin Grey TT i linked is very high!
But saying that, when your just nipping around town how ofter will i need sat nav and blutooth.

Nice 335i i spotted last night too.....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/335I-SE-/201116202059651/advert?channel=CARS

Decisions decisions..........

Leonard Hofstadter

J77 wrote: »

Don't understand why they never offered the 23d engine in the 3 series. Alpina appreciate how good a match they are. Once the 330d and 335d were still available I don't think anyone would miss the 325d.

The six cylinder engine will sound better (ok, it still sounds like a diesel, but not as bad as the four cylinder models), it has more torque than the 23d engine because it's a bigger engine and of course will be more reliable, because it has only one rather than two turbos and we all know BMW's track record with turbo reliability.

Also, the Alpina model is hardly any more fuel efficient than the 325d, and let's be honest, who would choose a four cylinder engine when they can have a six cylinder that is practically as economical?

Lastly, because the 325d has a bigger engine, it is easier to remap and get more power out of. So there's plenty of reasons for not having a 323d in the range.

I'd still get the 330d though;)!

A 335i would be the best 3 series - they sound great and they're so fast, especially after a remap:D!

I'd expect the next gen 3 series will have a 323d instead of a 325d though - sadly BMW is moving away from the six cylinder engines to four cylinder engines - it is likely the next 3 series will only have two six cylinder petrol options - the 335i and the M3 - the NA six cylinders are being replaced by boring old turbo fours - the new four cylinder BMW petrol is apparently so uncharasmatic (and less powerful than the six cylinder it replaces with only 236 bhp vs 258 bhp the six cylinder had in 28i guise- how is this progress?) they have to fit a sound generator to it when it goes into the Z4 .

conneem-TT

japasca wrote: »

Was just looking at this one conneem, and noticed that the pictures are very similar in style to the ones you posted. Any connection?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/COUPE-2./201109201422819/advert?channel=CARS

Yep I know that car. He is a TT forum member from Galway. Good spec and looked after it very well and has put on a nice few additions like the Audi Exclusive side skirts ect..

A little over average mileage which would probably average out with you low mileage though. He is looking to move to a diesel due to his annual mileage increasing even further to 30k+.

L-M

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/2.0-TFSI/201115201985627/advert?channel=CARS

That car is in spotless condition, I had a good look around it the other day.

I've driven a manual Mk1 and a DSG mk2, and if they're anything to go by I'd have the DSG ten times over.

conneem-TT

Limerick man wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/2.0-TFSI/201115201985627/advert?channel=CARS

That car is in spotless condition, I had a good look around it the other day.

I've driven a manual Mk1 and a DSG mk2, and if they're anything to go by I'd have the DSG ten times over.

Looks clean all right but pretty basic spec though, in fact only one option on it, leather, not even the aluminium pack.

The Dolphin grey one is definitely worth more than the 4k extra IMO

td2008

06 m3 maybe?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M3/M3-Coupe/201110201581880/advert?channel=CARS&featuredListingClickThru=true

LightStar

come on japasca make your choice!!

The 335 you mentioned last was a private sales and the mileage is a little high at 60k.

Reading between the lines the TT is were you going...

On the 335 , ask yourself the following questions

1. Do I need a fast car or a very fast car?
If Very Fast (335)
1. How often will I get the use the power?
2. Am I happy to pay the higher running costs?
If Yes to the above get the BMW
otherwise TT!!

Just to note a 40k mileage Audi and 40k BMW will feel and drive very differently... I cant explain how well together a BM feels.

Golden rule drive both and not just around the block!!

Final note.....pull up beside a 335 in an Audi TT 2.0litre - you will be very sadly embarrassed off the line!! :-)

Just to add something to the mix, how about

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/Z4/M-Roadst/201035199411977/advert?channel=CARS

or

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/Z4/M-ROADST/201114201944896/advert?channel=CARS

Nice choices to have all the same!!

copacetic

Actually one of the key issues is the practicality of the E92 over the TT. The BMW can seat 4 adults perfectly comfortably for long trips and the boot is a good size. Combined with the standard folding seats it's a pretty practical option.

The TT is much less practical, slower and handles worse. All it has going for it in comparison is the looks if you don't mind the 'toy' look to it.

LightStar

this bad boy has been dropping like a stone

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/335-I-Sp/201101200803929/advert?channel=CARS

Im sure there is a deal that could be done.....

japasca

td2008 wrote: »

06 m3 maybe?

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/M3/M3-Coupe/201110201581880/advert?channel=CARS&featuredListingClickThru=true

Naaaa! couldn't handle the old model although I realise it's an animal!

japasca

Limerick man wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/TT/2.0-TFSI/201115201985627/advert?channel=CARS

That car is in spotless condition, I had a good look around it the other day.

I've driven a manual Mk1 and a DSG mk2, and if they're anything to go by I'd have the DSG ten times over.

I'm currently driving a dsg A3 and don't think I could drive a manual again after it. Ive also viewed it and think it's very clean, but very basic spec compared to the 24,000 dolphin grey one!;)

LightStar

you're right very basic.....and has the dodgy seats too by the looks of the images..... dont get that one..

japasca

LightStar wrote: »

this bad boy has been dropping like a stone

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/335-I-Sp/201101200803929/advert?channel=CARS

Im sure there is a deal that could be done.....

I'd say a deal could be done alright lightstar, but I just couldn't spend 20k on a car with 80k miles. I've done high mileage before and will always but sub 50k miles from now on.

I think I am leaning towards the tt alright. Love the looks and don't think I need a very very fast car. I've 4 penalty points already so the 335i would just put me off the road by September!
I don't think that while driving in Limerick I'd ever pull up beside a 335 in a tt. I'd be more likely to pull up alongside a hiace or a horse!

What people are saying regarding the build quality of the bmws is really making me think however. Think I better start test driving this week.
Purchasing in the next 10 days so I still have time to decide

japasca

And the z4s are class alright! Haven't looked into them too much. As cramped as the tt is, at least it has back seats for short spins etc...

LightStar

you're right 80k + would be to much for me too....

All in all, they are both great cars in there own way...its just what suits you best..

happy days either way..there isnt a bad choice here...

conneem-TT

copacetic wrote: »

The TT is much less practical, slower and handles worse. All it has going for it in comparison is the looks if you don't mind the 'toy' look to it.

Really

The TT bests it in pretty much all the handling tests here, 18m & 36m slaloms, Ausweichtest (evasive lane change) and wet handling. The 335i has a quicker lap time but the TT has higher corner speeds, so the 335i was relying on it's power advantage. The TT also does pretty well in the in gear acceleration comparisons.





The back seats are really only good for very short journey's but you can squeeze 4 adults in. With the back seats down it has a very large load capacity, i.e. 4 tyre's

japasca

conneem-TT wrote: »

Really

The TT bests it in pretty much all the handling tests here, 18m & 36m slaloms, Ausweichtest (evasive lane change) and wet handling. The 335i has a quicker lap time but the TT has higher corner speeds, so the 335i was relying on it's power advantage. The TT also does pretty well in the in gear acceleration comparisons.

The back seats are really only good for very short journey's but you can squeeze 4 adults in. With the back seats down it has a very large load capacity, i.e. 4 tyre's

Thanks for this info conneem, i'm surprised how well it did compared to the 335i. Especially if it was a non quattro version.
Do you know the reason why none of the 2.0tfsi tt's for sale have quattro?
If i recall the Mk1 had quattro 180bhp models so why so rare on the MK2?

lomb

japasca wrote: »

Thanks for this info conneem, i'm surprised how well it did compared to the 335i. Especially if it was a non quattro version.
Do you know the reason why none of the 2.0tfsi tt's for sale have quattro?
If i recall the Mk1 had quattro 180bhp models so why so rare on the MK2?

A few reasons probably..
These days fuel economy and carbon emissions take precedence. My MKI 225 is very fond of the drink,Id be lucky to get 21 mpg in normal urban,maybe 30 on a long run. The 1530kg weight ,turbo ,four wheel drive weight and frictional loss don't help. Even the door mirror heat is ALWAYS on, no way to switch it off by design.It happens to be in the highest carbon band too putting out 228g/carbon.
This may be why quattro is offered on the diesels, it may not affect the economy so much.

Secondly Audi can charge much more to enthusiasts who won't buy a TT without quattro and petrol. Hence the TTS and TTRS.

There will be a new MK3 out in 2012/13 and MK2 values will plunge then. Id be holding out for a used TTS or RS in a few years..

LightStar

conneem-TT wrote: »

Really

Just to add something to the mix....you can see from the category of cars each one is benchmarked against, the BMW holds more prestige.

No sure if that is of interest to you, but there was around 15-20k difference in the price of these cars new (335 & TT)

There is also a magntic ride option on the TT(not on many irish cars) , which tights up the suspension. (Clarkson gives it a going over in this http://youtu.be/FC0hUgGnNP4)

Although life is short, I think you still have to time to get the TT , keep it for a year or so, its taken the depreciation hit already, then get a 335 :-)

conneem-TT

japasca wrote: »

Thanks for this info conneem, i'm surprised how well it did compared to the 335i. Especially if it was a non quattro version.
Do you know the reason why none of the 2.0tfsi tt's for sale have quattro?
If i recall the Mk1 had quattro 180bhp models so why so rare on the MK2?

For the first few years, the only quattro version was the 3.2L. Performance of the TFSI was very strong even with fwd, that if it had quattro, the only advantage of getting the more expensive 3.2 would have only been for the sound and maybe the pleasure of paying a couple of grand tax every year. The quattro TFSI version was only brought out late 2008, after the TTS in fact, and at that time the TDI was brought out. For a while it seemed like the TDI was the only model being brought in to the country by dealers. If you were looking for a quattro version I'd wait for a TTS, as the +points of the base 2.0TFSI in fwd are it's agility and sprightliness due to it's weight (around the same as a Clio F1) and the quattro version of it dulls these a bit, whereas in the TTS, the extra power kind of makes up for that

The 2.0TFSI TT and the 335i are quite different in their approach and one will suit your driving personality better than the other, so as the others have said I think it will come down to a test drive of each

Here are SportAuto's conclusion's (might be helpful if you can read German ) (I like SportAuto for is consistency, using the same testers and methods for every car)

RedorDead

conneem-TT wrote: »

Really

The TT bests it in pretty much all the handling tests here, 18m & 36m slaloms, Ausweichtest (evasive lane change) and wet handling. The 335i has a quicker lap time but the TT has higher corner speeds, so the 335i was relying on it's power advantage. The TT also does pretty well in the in gear acceleration comparisons.

Come on Coneem - please dont let the facts get in the way of some fashionable VAG bashing please.

Jxd

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japasca

Jxd wrote: »

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Hey Jxd,

Better reply before your post is deleted by the moderators. Thanks for the offer, the car sounds lovely and is really priced to sell! However i'm currently driving a 2007 and would like to buy a 335i 2007 or else a 2008 tt. Wouldnt like to drop back a year!
Dont think you'll have any trouble shifting yours on at that price tho. Any link to the advert for pics? How do you find the 325i performance wise?

Cheers