BMW 320d for Nissan Juke??

CGolf

Hi all,

My aunt has announced that she wants to trade her 2006 fully loaded 320d SE for a new Nissan Juke - I'm still in shock. The RWD really did her head in over the bad winter so she wants to change, but I didn't think she'd be going for a Juke! Does anyone have any suggestions for me to put to her - I was going along with used S40, A4, Tiguan maybe? I think budget is around €22-25k including trade in and must be diesel.
Cheers.

colm_mcm

let her buy it. she might actually like it. Tiguans are a shocking price new, and if she can live with the ugly front end, the rest of the car is supposed to be decent enough.

Eric Cartman

call the looney bin, thats one of the most idiotic changes of car Ive ever heard of, get someone to teach her how to drive a rwd car properly, or get her an awd saloon like a subaru

unkel

CGolf wrote: »

The RWD really did her head in over the bad winter

:rolleyes:

Free solution: throw 300KG of sandbags in the boot when there is snow / ice

Cheap solution: use wintertyres in the winter, like the rest of the world where there is a bit of snow / frost now and then

Expensive solution: trade in your lovely 5 year old BMW for a new FWD crapbox from Japan...

Padraig Mor

CGolf wrote: »

Does anyone have any suggestions for me .

Beat her. Repeatedly.

biko

What unkel said, tell her to get proper winter tyres next year.

Leonard Hofstadter

That's the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard of to change a car - especially a nice 320d for a joke or sorry Juke:eek:!

As others said - tell your aunt to get winter tyres.

Last year BMW allowed customers to swap over their summer tyres for winter ones and they would keep the summer ones for you so you don't even have to worry about storing an extra set of tyres.

tuxy

This may sound sexist (as it probably is) But I have yet to meet a woman driving a rwd car that realised it was was rwd unless they got stuck in bad weather. She would proably be safer in the juke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcShmVADYrY
The people standing by laughing are pricks but there is no way that woman should have been driving that car, even in good weather.

bazz26

C4Kid

and must be diesel.

Why does Every new car in Ireland these days have to be diesel !!:eek:

Eric Cartman

C4Kid wrote: »

Why does Every new car in Ireland these days have to be diesel !!:eek:

because road tax is the scariest thing alive , and the upfront cost of fuel being a few cents cheaper seems to negate the more expensive servicing

tuxy

It looks like all future tax's on vehicles will be co2 based and every few years manufactures make big improvements on co2 output for diesel. I think the Uk are going the same way. Many new diesels are exempt from road tax over there. I switched to diesel and while it's boring as hell to drive it's saved me a lot of money.

Absurdum

What's the problem here, if she wants it, she can have it

Cookie_Monster

The mind boggles

Voodoomelon

Theres a Juke epidemic in Dundalk, i've passed 5 in 2 days. They are the ugliest thing on the road from the front, an absolute travesty.

It makes the Multipla look like an Aston, your aunt needs her head examined.

testarossa40

That's great news OP and fair play to your Auntie's admirable motoring acumen & common sense - tell her to absolutely go for it*









*so that'll hopefully be one less wheel-spinning, pirouetting-on-the-spot roadblock causing the rest of us** to have to grind to a halt for 3 hrs next time we get a bit of snow...
** speaking as a 320D driver myself 'n'all :P

copacetic

captainspeed wrote: »

That's the most ridiculous reason I've ever heard of to change a car - especially a nice 320d for a joke or sorry Juke:eek:!

As others said - tell your aunt to get winter tyres.

Last year BMW allowed customers to swap over their summer tyres for winter ones and they would keep the summer ones for you so you don't even have to worry about storing an extra set of tyres.

No, they let you buy new wheels with winter tyres off them and stored your summer wheels and tyres for you. Making it a pretty expensive option since they only offered oem wheels.

Seth Brundle

C4Kid wrote: »

Why does Every new car in Ireland these days have to be diesel !!:eek:

Because the tax is lower for an oil burner and the Irish like basic and cheap cars!

As for the OPs aunt...

Delancey

I know they say beauty is only skin deep but if thats true then the Nissan Juke was made inside out :eek:

Zubeneschamali

Voodoomelon wrote: »

They are the ugliest thing on the road from the front, an absolute travesty.

They are pretty ugly from the rear, too, and the profile is, well, ugly. Maybe the plan view from a helicopter is OK, but I doubt it. I was going to tell your aunt to make sure to get a 4WD version if she's worried about snow, only to discover that there isn't one. WTF? All that ugliness, and it doesn't even have 4WD as an option? Insane.

You can get a 4x4 Yeti, but it's €30K vs. €22K for the entry level, so I don't suppose we'll be seeing any of those.

So, what's the cheapest new yoke with useful 4WD (or AWD or Quattro or whatever) ? 20K for the Suzuki SX6 diesel?

freestyla

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Theres a Juke epidemic in Dundalk, i've passed 5 in 2 days. They are the ugliest thing on the road from the front, an absolute travesty.

It makes the Multipla look like an Aston, your aunt needs her head examined.

sooooo Beemer talk omg

Juke is pretty extreme design and I m so happy somebody is making smthg different than just booring Corsa and Hyndai styled vacuum-cleaner-look.
Cube is another funny example.

I like cars in overall and I d be happy to see more different designs on the streets.. bubbles, squares, tringles.. different colors, different wheels etc..

I guess elder people buy Juke because it has big rounded wheel arches and front (fog?) lights.. which brings it a bit back to 50s nostalgia when cars had mostly rounded design.

I don't think handling is so important for elder , as long its not heavy :P

_Conrad_

Eric Cartman wrote: »

call the looney bin, thats one of the most idiotic changes of car Ive ever heard of, get someone to teach her how to drive a rwd car properly, or get her an awd saloon like a subaru

learning how to drive properly would be good in the subaru also, and in general. Other countries get far scarier weather than us and for example most of the scandinavian countries if not all, require you to be able to control a car in a skid/spin, as if you were on ice, in order to pass your driving test.

I drove a bmw (an old one mind, but still very much rwd) for the last two winters and did a lot of mileage and had no accidents. Got stuck once because of an idiot in an MPV coming at me backwards meant i needed to take evasive action, but managed to get where i needed to go at a slow controlled pace. also changed my tyres to suit. And did not under any circumstances so what i saw most people do: lose traction, panic and either brake wildly or sit there mindlessly acclerating spinning the wheels and bouncing off the limiter

Voodoomelon

freestyla wrote: »

sooooo Beemer talk omg

Juke is pretty extreme design and I m so happy somebody is making smthg different than just booring Corsa and Hyndai styled vacuum-cleaner-look.
Cube is another funny example.

I like cars in overall and I d be happy to see more different designs on the streets.. bubbles, squares, tringles.. different colors, different wheels etc..

I guess elder people buy Juke because it has big rounded wheel arches and front (fog?) lights.. which brings it a bit back to 50s nostalgia when cars had mostly rounded design.

I don't think handling is so important for elder , as long its not heavy :P

What?



In all of the online pics, they make it nice an shiney and glitsey, in bogo irish spec it looks like absolute sh*te. The side and rear profiles are a bit funky and different I agree, but the front is appalling.

Even that picture looks better than they do on the road.

_Conrad_

Voodoomelon wrote: »

What?


In all of the online pics, they make it nice an shiney and glitsey, in bogo irish spec it looks like absolute sh*te. The side and rear profiles are a bit funky and different I agree, but the front is appalling.

Even that picture looks better than they do on the road.

they're horrible, fake 4x4s, for people who think that if they buy this it'll make them look as if they have a better financial/social status, just like the existing epidemic of kugas, cashcows, freelanders, rav4s etc.

Someone earlier mentioned big roundy arches and linked it to the 50s, that's not why, it's because the joke is pretending to be a 4x4

freestyla

_Conrad_ wrote: »

Someone earlier mentioned big roundy arches and linked it to the 50s, that's not why, it's because the joke is pretending to be a 4x4

thats true also but it appears also that the most Juke buyers are 40-60 ages old.. round style was in 40yrs ago :P

_Conrad_

freestyla wrote: »

thats true also but it appears also that the most Juke buyers are 40-60 ages old.. round style was in 40yrs ago :P

they're buying a nissan joke, they don't know what style is.

galwaytt

freestyla wrote: »

thats true also but it appears also that the most Juke buyers are 40-60 ages old.. round style was in 40yrs ago :P

40 years ago ?
Really ?




On a related note: We all thought the K12 Micra atrocious when new too. Guess what ? Part of the furniture now.

Speaking of which: Micra crashes into Mini and you get this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Nissan-March_rafeet-k12_2005-front.jpg


OP: she's mad as a bag of hammers. Tip: buy her M&S tyres and tell her you've had it converted to fwd for next winter.........

Nissan doctor

While I admit that changing your car because of some rare bad weather is a bit silly, I think that this thread is suffering from a bit of badge snobbery.

A bmw 3 srs is nothing even remotely special or prestigious, And the 2.0d is an engine that needs to be treated with the care of a new baby to keep it reliable.

She is trading from a 5 year old bland mobile to the latest funkiest(I admit its a love hate thing with the juke, and I'm not gone on it tbh) new car. I don't see the confusion/blatent horror people are showing at changing from the bm to the juke and I think its a simple matter a brand snobbery.

I think you aunt is showing that she is buying a car because she likes it rather then because of what it will say about her, and I think that actually says more!

Absurdum

_Conrad_ wrote: »

for people who think that if they buy this it'll make them look as if they have a better financial/social status

so just like a 3 series then

unkel

Nissan doctor wrote: »

I don't see the confusion/blatent horror people are showing at changing from the bm to the juke and I think its a simple matter a brand snobbery.

I'm no fan of diesel and no fan of the 3-series except maybe the higher end ones. But the 320d is still a proper BMW, a real drivers car.

To call someone who prefers to drive a real drivers car, rather than an ugly fridge from the far east, a badge snob, is plainly absurd.

n97 mini

unkel wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Free solution

Cheap solution

Expensive solution

The expensive solution is also the easiest. It's her money. Jeez I couldn't imagine any of my aunts putting sandbags in their cars... pffft!

Nissan doctor

unkel wrote: »

I'm no fan of diesel and no fan of the 3-series except maybe the higher end ones. But the 320d is still a proper BMW, a real drivers car.

To call someone who prefers to drive a real drivers car, rather than an ugly fridge from the far east, a badge snob, is plainly absurd.

I might be more inclinded to go with that view if I believed that many BMW's were bought here because they were a 'drivers' car. :rolleyes:

Seth Brundle

Most people have no interest ion how a car drives, etc. I believe that most Porkys, Ferraris, AMs, and other flash cars are bought for their name and prestiege and not for what they can do. Its no different with Range Rover, BMW and so many others.

unkel

Nissan doctor wrote: »

I might be more inclinded to go with that view if I believed that many BMW's were bought here because they were a 'drivers' car. :rolleyes:

And the OP's auntie is proving you right, right here in this thread

dharn

that photo of the juke proved to me it is the ugliest yoke i have ever seen it like that frog on the ad with wind

Pkiernan

I don't understand all the outrage.

Some people are under the impression that a 320 diesel BMW is some type of high performance sports car.

Heads up folks - you are utterly wrong. It is as common as muck, the red-headed step child of the BMW family. It is not an M5.

Let the lady buy a Nissan Juke if she wants. More likely than not its a better car (both in general, and for her needs or wants).

The wanna be Jensen Buttons in their little diesel bmw's might not like them, but to be honest where they are coming from is not any better.

I need rear wheel drive so when I take the ramp onto the M50 at Finglas I can feel the full power and driving thrill of my 2 litre engine. Wooohhhh

Face it - the only BMW worth considering is a 335 (petrol or diesel) or an M3. Anything less is just like having a fake Rolex.

Talk about falling for the ads. Ultimate Driving Machine - right.

Leonard Hofstadter

Pkiernan wrote: »

Face it - the only BMWs worth considering are ones with at least six cylinders. Anything less is just like having a fake Rolex.

Talk about falling for the ads. Ultimate Driving Machine - right.

Fixed your post:D!

Shane732

Pkiernan wrote: »

I don't understand all the outrage.

Some people are under the impression that a 320 diesel BMW is some type of high performance sports car.

Heads up folks - you are utterly wrong. It is as common as muck, the red-headed step child of the BMW family. It is not an M5.

Let the lady buy a Nissan Juke if she wants. More likely than not its a better car (both in general, and for her needs or wants).

The wanna be Jensen Buttons in their little diesel bmw's might not like them, but to be honest where they are coming from is not any better.

I need rear wheel drive so when I take the ramp onto the M50 at Finglas I can feel the full power and driving thrill of my 2 litre engine. Wooohhhh

Face it - the only BMW worth considering is a 335 (petrol or diesel) or an M3. Anything less is just like having a fake Rolex.

Talk about falling for the ads. Ultimate Driving Machine - right.

Good to see the BMW haters are out in forced. There hasn't been much of it around for the last weeks.

Sorry but that post is utter sh*t. In fact I think it's so stupid it should be removed.

First off have you driven every 3 series model out there? Have you driven a 335?

The 320 is aimed at a particular market, just like pretty much every other car in the world. You can't blame a company for making a car that's going to sell.

Would you take a 2.0TDI A4 above the 320D? Would you pick a C180/200 C-Class above the BMW 320?

n97 mini

captainspeed wrote: »

Fixed your post:D!

You got it wrong. Who wants an I6 when you can have a V8

PARKHEAD67

CGolf wrote: »

Hi all,

My aunt has announced that she wants to trade her 2006 fully loaded 320d SE for a new Nissan Juke - I'm still in shock. The RWD really did her head in over the bad winter so she wants to change, but I didn't think she'd be going for a Juke! Does anyone have any suggestions for me to put to her - I was going along with used S40, A4, Tiguan maybe? I think budget is around €22-25k including trade in and must be diesel.
Cheers.

Madness. Of the highest order:eek: