Dalai Lama Visit to Ireland.

Turtwig

Well, anyone here interested in this. Live streams of his talks/teaching are online.

Current stream of kildare here.

I don't know about how religious leaders will greet Him, but his approach will surely be a contentious issue with some of the folk here (and possibly some of our neighbours). So far he's redefining God to infinite love, peace etc and seeking unity among different religions. Religious harmony, is that even possible?

Favourite quote so far

In the church very holy ["blesses" himself], outside always fighting.

(I might not have it word for word.)

Edit : Lol I spent too long making that post.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

the other world religions could learn alot from his PR people, he's managed to convince western hippies that he's some sort of secular second coming and the only religious leader it's acceptable to "respect".

bullpost

He even gets cool rock stars to write songs about him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuWXVsGI4uA

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the other world religions could learn alot from his PR people, he's managed to convince western hippies that he's some sort of secular second coming and the only religious leader it's acceptable to "respect".

Gloomtastic!

The man talks a load of gibberish most of the time. I listen waiting for some enlightenment but in reality I just go huh?
The Emperor's New Clothes me thinks......

eoin5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kstH-8jwa80

gman2k

Well, I'm an atheist and I have a huge amount of respect for Mr. Lhamo Dondrub.
Anybody that can piss of the Chinese government to such an extent has to be a good thing!

Hookah

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

the other world religions could learn alot from his PR people, he's managed to convince western hippies that he's some sort of secular second coming and the only religious leader it's acceptable to "respect".

Buddhism is a religion?

sensibleken

Hookah wrote: »

Buddhism is a religion?

Yeah just an athiest one

I like some of his books, but his branch of buddhism wouldn't be for me.
But to answer the question, no I'm not really interested

CerebralCortex

Hookah wrote: »

Buddhism is a religion?

Dare I say I find Buddhism as far of the mark as any other religion for that matter.

pH

Whatever your views on China's "occupation" of Tibet, you've got to consider that before China, Tibet was ruled by pretty much a Buddhist theocracy, with a ruling priest class. It was an extremely unpleasant and dare I say unenlightened place to live. Now with no power, the Lama is all peace, love and harmony, and I've no real reason to doubt that he personally means it, but it seems that Buddhism, like all religions, given power produces utterly horrible societies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet
http://www.swans.com/library/art9/mparen01.html

sensibleken

pH wrote: »

Whatever your views on China's "occupation" of Tibet, you've got to consider that before China, Tibet was ruled by pretty much a Buddhist theocracy, with a ruling priest class. It was an extremely unpleasant and dare I say unenlightened place to live. Now with no power, the Lama is all peace, love and harmony, and I've no real reason to doubt that he personally means it, but it seems that Buddhism, like all religions, given power produces utterly horrible societies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet
http://www.swans.com/library/art9/mparen01.html

Its a familiar arguement put forward by impereal powers. sure didnt they fix the roads like

fatmammycat

I've about as much interest in this fellow as I have the pope. But from what I can gather at least this fellow is paying his own way.

oldrnwisr

sensibleken wrote: »

Its a familiar arguement put forward by impereal powers. sure didnt they fix the roads like

It's not that the Chinese have done wonderful things for Tibet. It really comes down to this:

Should Chinese rule continue in Tibet? No

Should Tibet go back to the Lama ruling class? Not a chance.

China, at the moment, is most charitably described as the lesser of two evils. The introduction of democracy is what's needed in Tibet not the return of this robed fruitcake.

A robed fruitcake in the pocket of the CIA no less.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Dalai_Lama#CIA_backing

sponsoredwalk

pH wrote: »

http://www.swans.com/library/art9/mparen01.html

Great article, more from Parenti on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VqOYL5BRas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIVq_eV5bQc

Dades

First Mother Teresa, and now the Dali Lama?

Who's next, Ghandi? :pac:

The Mad Hatter

Dades wrote: »

First Mother Teresa, and now the Dali Lama?

Who's next, Ghandi? :pac:

Here's the first part of Penn and Teller's episode of Bullshit! on Mother Teresa, the Dalai Lama and Gandhi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7-sPB5dh_E

strobe

Dades wrote: »

First Mother Teresa, and now the Dali Lama?

Who's next, Ghandi? :pac:

You mean the virulent proponent of the caste system who used the idea of passive resistance as a way of protecting the Indian Bourgeoisie and ensuring that when the collapsing British empire eventually withdrew from India, as it was clear it was going to have to do, it would be the Indian high caste elite who would rule and not the common people that had made all the sacrifice? :pac:

Dades

Next people will be saying the Pope ain't so Holy.

Zillah

Saw him on the news.

*mumble mumble* work hard *mumble* stay strong....*pause* work hard


Write that down. People will be quoting that in coming millenia.

Robert ninja

I've heard better wisdom from an egg box than this fella. "For best results, remove from refridgerator 30 minutes before preparing."

Wow, never knew that.

With this guy, "Violence is not natural." "I live to be happy."
Seriously what the hell? People look up to this chap? Sick to think he gets to travel the world for free when he does next to nothing.

pH

strobe wrote: »

You mean the virulent proponent of the caste system who used the idea of passive resistance as a way of protecting the Indian Bourgeoisie and ensuring that when the collapsing British empire eventually withdrew from India, as it was clear it was going to have to do, it would be the Indian high caste elite who would rule and not the common people that had made all the sacrifice? :pac:

What? No mention of Gandhi's scat-enema play with young girls?

panda100

strobe wrote: »

You mean the virulent proponent of the caste system who used the idea of passive resistance as a way of protecting the Indian Bourgeoisie and ensuring that when the collapsing British empire eventually withdrew from India, as it was clear it was going to have to do, it would be the Indian high caste elite who would rule and not the common people that had made all the sacrifice? :pac:

Hes all about the bourgeoise this dude. He was on yesterday about how we should forgive the bankers and politicians, and we (the plebs not the bankers) must work hard to get ourselves out of the current economic crisis.

Beruthiel

panda100 wrote: »

He was on yesterday about how we should forgive the bankers and politicians.

Bite my shiny metal ass Mr. D.L.
I'm bringing that hate to the grave!

strobe

I knew he reminded me of someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWhmn97R8IU

He's bringing love! Get him!!

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Nah though, the Lama's cool.

sponsoredwalk

Chinese police encircle Tibetan monks


Police encircled a Buddhist monastery in a Tibetan area of southwest
China when tensions sparked by the self-immolation of a monk last month
escalated into clashes, exiled Tibetans and activists said today.


The standoff prompted the leader of the Tibet's government-in-exile in
northern India to say monks at the Kirti monastery, the focus of the
conflict, could be in danger.


The Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, gives an address at the
University of Limerick today on the 'Power of Forgiveness'.
Photograph: Niall Carson/PA Wire


Hundreds of ethnic Tibetan people in Aba county, Sichuan province,
gathered at the Kirti monastery on Tuesday trying to stop authorities
moving out monks for government-mandated 're-education', the
International Campaign for Tibet said in an emailed statement.

That prompted armed police to lockdown the monastery with as many as
2,500 monks inside, the organisation said.

A 21-year-old Tibetan monk burned himself to death on March 16th in Aba,
an overwhelmingly ethnic Tibetan part of Sichuan province that erupted in
defiance against Chinese Communist Party control three years ago.

His act echoed protests that gripped Tibetan areas of China in March
2008, when Buddhist monks and other Tibetan people loyal to the exiled
Dalai Lama confronted police and troops across the region.

The Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy said police began to
force their through the crowds on Tuesday, beating some protesters and
using police dogs on the crowd.

Armed police were patrolling around the monastery, which has been partly
ringed by cement walls, creating fears of food shortages, a coalition of
Tibetan advocacy organisations said in a separate statement.

Tibetan leaders in exile today called on other governments to denounce
the crackdown and for civilians to adhere to non-violent protest.

"We are afraid there may be mass brutal treatment toward the monks and
they may be killed or tortured," Samdhong Rinpoche, the prime minister of
the exiled Tibetan government in Dharamsala, India said in a statement.

"We are very concerned and can only pray and appeal to the international
community to appeal to PRC (China) to refrain from this genocide. We feel
very helpless.”

China says the Tibetan government-in-exile has no legitimacy.
Many monks, or lamas, from the Kirti monastery fled to northern India in
past decades, and Kirti Rinpoche, a senior lama of the Kirti monastery in
exile, said economic growth and propaganda alone could not defuse
tensions in his homeland.

"The senior (Chinese) leadership must find the courage to accept that
constant repression born of suspicion and the attempt to enforce
'Harmony' with the power of the gun cannot address the real situation,"
he said.

China has ruled Tibet since Communist troops marched in 1950. The Dalai
Lama fled to exile in northern India in 1959 after a failed uprising against
Communist rule.

Many Tibetans revere the Dalai Lama, but the Chinese government accuses
him of fomenting violence to seek Tibet's independence. He has said he
wants Tibetan autonomy under Chinese sovereignty, and rejects violence.
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Wtf... "Re-education"??? Whatever you think about the Dalai Lama's
deceitfulness & hucksterism the Chinese implementing "re-education"
is a very telling sign, especially considering the fact that they are going
to be usurping global power soon enough (:p). Seriously fcuked up.

Possibly biased article?

Dave!

I'm not familiar with his teachings or anything, but I get the impression that he's awfully similar to self-help gurus like Deepak Chopra... I'm not into it meself

MagicMarker

I don't trust anyone who wears the same clothes every day.