Planning permission to build in parents back garden

Senap

Hi there,

This is my first boards experience and I'm hoping you guys might help point me in the right direction. Myself and my siblings and in the process of discussing the sale of our aging parents home in Santry. It seems a shame to me to sell it in this climate especially since the back garden is really huge and could definitely fit in a 2 or 3 bedroom home. None of us actually want to live in either our parents house or the potential new home either as we're all settled as we are. It's not a case of greed I'd just hate to sell the house and for someone to buy it and develop the back garden and build a house there themselves when we could have done it ourselves. The thing is that there's no direct access to the backgarden so the garage would have to be knocked down to allow for access for the new potential property. I guess the first step is getting onto Fingal County Council to see if we'd get planning permission....if anyone else has advice in this area it'd be much appreicated.

Also does any know if it's possible to sell the house and just half of the back garden and to keep the remained of the garden for future potential developement?

Carlow52

IMO leave it as is, apart from anything else with 40k empty houses around who will
a: finance the build
b: buy the second house
c: buy the first house with a wart behind

Side access will devalue the first property

Yes u can split the site and retain a right of way/ new entrance maybe on road/ through the demolished garage but again u will devalue both.

It seems a shame to me to sell it in this climate

This financial climate change is here for the foreseeable future, say 15 to 20 years and property prices are going to drop another 30% before the bottom so I would just preserve the house by renting it or else sell it and give ur aging parents a chance to enjoy their remain time here.

rayjdav

Senap wrote: »

None of us actually want to live in either our parents house or the potential new home either as we're all settled as we are. It's not a case of greed I'd just hate to sell the house and for someone to buy it and develop the back garden and build a house there themselves when we could have done it ourselves.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Is there a rear access laneway to the property? If not, as Carlow said, the property may be devalued to such an extent, that no sane thinking purchaser would touch it, imho.

Re getting permission on it to add value, I think that once again, in this climate, you may be wasting your money/time as it probably would not be built within the timeframe of any granted permission...

Senap

Thanks guys for your advice, it's really interesting to hear your points of view. To be honest I'm living out of the country and although I'm back a good bit and keep up to date with the goings on its still pretty hard to know how bad things really are! Yes maybe we're better off just leaving it. I understand that the property market won't pick up for years to come but I've heard talks of the difficulties of renting these days....getting taxed on rental income for example? On a slightly different note, I've been reading about the new proposed North Dublin Metro line, that may have a stop in Northwood, Santry. I can only imagine that this would increase house prices in the area with the Metro going from to Swords and the Airport to Stephen's Green. Does anyone know if this is still on the cards and if so what is the estimated timescale? In one newspaper I read that building would start 2012 but in The Irish Times it said it wouldn't be built until 2018!...if anyone can shed any light that'd be great.

gman2k

OP, I think you should take a positive view of the property.
Is there much local precedent of nearby properties having their gardens built on/ sites split?
If there is, then I think you should explore the option of trying for permission on the property.
Of course every site is different, so you need to have an architect look at your site and give you some specific advice.
Santry is still a good area, and has the amenities of DCU, Airport, hospital nearby so you should explore all options.
If you are going to sell the property anyway, you will have more value selling it with permission granted for another house on the site if it can support it.
If you sell it without trying for planning permission, and the site can support it, then the new owner will do that anyway and get value from the property - none of which you will see!
There will be a time scale involved in getting permission obviously, but houses are taking 9 months to sell at the moment anyway!
So talk to an architect (local) and also get some advice from trusted auctioneers also.

the_syco

Senap wrote: »

sale of our aging parents home in Santry

What is the density of houses there? If high, maybe. If not high, can' see it happening.

martinn123

What about an application for Outline Planning Permission, a chat with a good local Architect, should discover if a house in the garden is realistic.

The investment is Outline Planning will result in an increase in the value of the property, if successful.

You won't have to knock the garage, until a full application is made.

At least then if you decide to sell, you will maximise value.

Santry will always have a demand, due to proximity to Airport, M50, Industry etc. You could have been stuck with a house in a Ghost Estate in Ballygobackwards. Don't depend on the Merto North, no final decisions made yet, and as we are broke, I don't see it going ahead

paddy147

What have your parents got to say about this,as theres not a mention of them in this so far????

Senap

Thanks everyone for all ur advice, it's appreciated. I'm impressed with this boards forum, glad I joined now. As for my parents they've been wanting to downsize for years now to something more manageable. They've got a new Spring in their step discussing maybe a smaller ground floor apartment close by with a bit of a garden or something. We'll see, for now we're all just talking about the possibilities and hopefully it'll all work out for the best.

icbarros

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