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selling a one word .ie domain

  • 12-04-2011 5:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I own a .ie domain which I never use. Its a one word domain.

    There a a lot of businesses whom use this particular word in their branding.

    So for instance I own....xxxxx.ie and there are a lot of companies whom call themselves xxxxx design or xxxxx building services or xxxxxx niteclub etc.

    Is it possible to sell a .ie domain and if so is there a value to this - as far as I can see this would be a valuable branding asset for these companies...?


Comments

  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    No the domain is part of the business its registered to. To sell the domain you need to sell the business with it that it is registered to. Also the word is only really of use to a business who runs under that name. In the example you gave most businesses go with that format for directory listings and go with AAA business name..or ABC business name..SEO on websites etc doesnt work the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    You don't quite own the domain, you currently hold rights to that domain granted by the IEDR. They're quite particular about things like selling domain names, unless attached to a business as Axwell refers to. blacknight is the man for the most authoritative view of your situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Boskonay


    What's been said already - the 'license' to use the domain was granted by the IEDR to 'something' - a person, company, RBN, etc. That entity needs to change hands for the domain to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭mikefm


    You will know if it is 'sell-able' too if someone makes contact to buy it which at that stage you can transfer ownership of the domain to the buyer


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 225 ✭✭calahans


    I recently transferred an ie domain from another company. All that was needed was written permission from the transferer and a stated reason from the transferee as to the purpose which they would be using the domain (as you do with all .ie domains).

    The money element was irrelevent to the IEDR .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    I have been watching a one word .ie domain in the hope that the owner doesn't renew .... so I could purchase .... didn't even think about contacting the owner and making an offer.

    funny think is I was looking at registering the domain and by the time I decided to go ahead ...it was registered.... my own fault...it happened twice (two different website names)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    I was asked/told to hand over my business name and .ie domain name (also one word) by a US company, in the end we got them to feck off but I'm still renewing the domain name subscription when it comes up in case they come looking for it again. It's a distinctive name for the type of business it is associated with so a few people might want to use it (not that the US company will actually let them if they try).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭johnmurph01


    You cannot sell IE domains alone.

    Reason being: all IE domain holders must have a connection to the domain. Selling the domain to a 3rd party means they may not have a connection to that domain.

    If you are looking to do this - 'Transfer' ownership of the domain to someone as part of a sale of a business name or business. IEDR won't touch you then. I think I read somewhere before that if you do try and sell the domain and IEDR find out, they reserve the right to cancel it (eek!)

    If in doubt I would contact some of the bigger domain registrars like Digiweb or LetsHost for info on this. Im they come across it all the time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 167 ✭✭stephenpalmer


    If you had the .Com domain then you could easily put it up for auction on any of the many many domain auctions websites. SEDO, Godaddy auctions etc.

    Domains selling is a big business but sadly the .IE domain as im sure you have seen from previous posts is not that easy :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Domains selling is a big business but sadly the .IE domain as im sure you have seen from previous posts is not that easy :(

    I don't think that's a bad thing really.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 167 ✭✭stephenpalmer


    Eoin wrote: »
    I don't think that's a bad thing really.

    Well it is if they are trying to sell it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Well it is if they are trying to sell it?

    Sorry, I just meant that I like how there isn't the same level of domain squatting and so on with .ie domains.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 167 ✭✭stephenpalmer


    Eoin wrote: »
    Sorry, I just meant that I like how there isn't the same level of domain squatting and so on with .ie domains.

    I agree with you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    I actually think the system should be even tighter for IE names and their use. I wanted to register an IE name relevant to my business and discovered that the domain was registered, but pointed to a completely irrelevant site. It was like typing "usedcars.ie" and finding yourself on a site selling viagra. I wrote to the IEDR and they said it didn't matter what the domain was being used for; it only mattered that the registrant had a connection to the name when registering it. Disappointing really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    The IEDR do not allow the sale of IE domains nor do they allow the promotion or advertisement of IE domain names for sale

    Advertise it for sale and see how long the domain remains live :)

    Yes there is a process for transferring control of an IE domain name

    BUT if the IEDR get any whiff of monies etc., then you may end up without any domain .. (and no I'm not making this up)

    The transfer of control does not necessarily have to go in conjunction with the business / company - the new holder must, however, qualify for the assignment of the domain name

    As for all the arguments about the IEDR's rules .. ...

    There's a very long and detailed argument to be had, but the entire "managed" registry thing is silly.
    The system can and is "gamed"
    The domain name space should work with / for users. I don't think it really does at the moment.. (If you want to read my various rants on this feel free to google them :) )

    Also - please don't use the term "cybersquatter" unless you actually know what you are talking about. In most cases it seems to be used by people who are more upset / annoyed that they didn't get the domain name than anything else

    If you actually have rights in a name you can use the dispute policy with WIPO


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