Would anyone fancy this?

VolvoMan

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Hyundai/Grandeur/3.3-V6-A/201109201491873/advert?channel=CARS

Drummerboy08

A Grandeur is for life, not just for christmas.

Eric Cartman

a bit bland inside and out, knowing hyundai the 3.3 v6 probably puts out about the same as a 2.5 bmw engine , if i was going to pay 1566 in tax Id rather an older 7er or S class, its overpriced as for less than a grand more youd easily get a GS300 in good nick

verdict : SALEPROOF

andyseadog

it looks like a sonata that's had too many pies.

that said, like most modern hyundais it looks like a lot of car for the cash!

VolvoMan

I reckon it would do CarinaBoy, as road tax wouldn't be an issue and he seems to like obscure executive saloons from Asia.

coylemj

Big Car, massive depreciation = taxi.

mickdw

As hyundai go, its not half bad. Still, he will surely have to give it away Id say.

Anan1

Way overpriced, IMO.

GTDolanator

Anan1 wrote: »

Way overpriced, IMO.

does anyone no the bhp of that lump??

do we reckon it has more than 220bhp?


(didnt mean to quote above)

I Was VB

VolvoMan wrote: »

I reckon it would do CarinaBoy, as road tax wouldn't be an issue and he seems to like obscure executive saloons from Asia.

Dont worry petrol prices are still very much applicable to me!!

RobAMerc

does anyone else think that no matter how hard they try, the far eastern brands just can appeal to our European tastes and the quality expected by us. I mean I am pretty sure these guys tried really hard to make this a quality interior but it still looks awful and cheap to me.

more specifically - he won't be able to give it away unless someone is passing by with 7k in his pocket and is too drunk to walk

peasant

GTDolanator wrote: »

does anyone no the bhp of that lump??

do we reckon it has more than 220bhp?

233 horses, according to this: http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/hyundai-grandeur-1005925.html

VolvoMan

RobAMerc wrote: »

does anyone else think that no matter how hard they try, the far eastern brands just can appeal to our European tastes and the quality expected by us. I mean I am pretty sure these guys tried really hard to make this a quality interior but it still looks awful and cheap to me.

I was actually thinking the opposite. Where previous efforts like the XG were absolutely awful both inside and outside, this has more of an air of quality about it.

zilog_jones

It's certainly an improvement from the XG, but still pretty bland. Those seats don't look great, and the dashboard is a mess - the climate control and and stereo LCD panels are differing shades of green, then there's a VF display (vacuum-fluorescent - you know, like the clock in your 1987 Corolla, or your VHS video recorder ) for the clock above, then an orange-on-black LCD panel for the trip computer. It's like they just stuck a load of random bits together - for a premium car I'd expect at least some consistency :rolleyes:

Absurdum

the description is rather optimistic

This is a amazing very rare car that cost over €70,000 New RRP, This is the Hyundais equalivant of Mercedes S Class or BMW's 7 Series.

70 grand :eek::eek::eek: it must have been a demo

RobAMerc

VolvoMan wrote: »

I was actually thinking the opposite. Where previous efforts like the XG were absolutely awful both inside and outside, this has more of an air of quality about it.

good lord no, this is indistinguishable from a toyota yaris - actually I think the Yaris would be better. It's supposed to be an S-Class or 7 series rival

e65 7 series interior

S Class

unkel

It would have been about €50k new, not €70k (£27k UK price)

I can see it find a buyer. Someone only interested in a large and very comfy car with a good spec. Maybe if the €1,566 tax is out of the equation and the 9 year rule comes back in, for a taxi driver with a small budget and a bad back?

VolvoMan

RobAMerc wrote: »

good lord no, this is indistinguishable from a toyota yaris - actually I think the Yaris would be better. It's supposed to be an S-Class or 7 series rival

I think the seller is slightly misinformed. I am almost certain that this car was intended as a rival to upper 5 Series/E-Class models.

unkel

unkel wrote: »

It would have been about €50k new, not €70k (£27k UK price)

I can see it find a buyer. Someone only interested in a large and very comfy car with a good spec. Maybe if the €1,566 tax is out of the equation and the 9 year rule comes back in, for a taxi driver with a small budget and a bad back?

I could easily see that sold for €5500/€6000, knock 3 years out of it and scrap it if no one will take it away for tiny money. There's a buyer out there for everything. A funeral home etc as well as some taxi folk would be interested at the right price.

unkel

RoverJames wrote: »

A funeral home etc.

Didn't think of that one. The car is black after all

Do they have PSV motor tax rates?

unkel

unkel wrote: »

Didn't think of that one. The car is black after all

Do they have PSV motor tax rates?

I'm not 100% sure but I would think so, wedding cars have PSV tax and most funeral homes do the wedding gigs too (down here anyway it's not uncommon), the local funeral home has Rolls Royce motors that don't do funerals.

Owen

The entire centre stack and gear stick look like they've been lifted from a Lexus.

cozzie55

PaintDoctor wrote: »

The entire centre stack and gear stick look like they've been lifted from a Lexus.

Maybe from an old GS interior from the 90's
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/vehicle-pictures/2003/lexus/gs-300-430/03806031990003-480.jpg
Definately not from the more modern lexus's or even lexus's around at the time this car went into production http://images.tuningblogger.de/uploaded_images/Lexus_2007_IS_220d_silber_3.jpg

x in the city

RobAMerc wrote: »

does anyone else think that no matter how hard they try, the far eastern brands just can appeal to our European tastes and the quality expected by us. I mean I am pretty sure these guys tried really hard to make this a quality interior but it still looks awful and cheap to me.

more specifically - he won't be able to give it away unless someone is passing by with 7k in his pocket and is too drunk to walk

lol

x in the city

RobAMerc wrote: »

good lord no, this is indistinguishable from a toyota yaris - actually I think the Yaris would be better. It's supposed to be an S-Class or 7 series rival

e65 7 series interior

S Class

S class rival

LOL

An Accord 2.4 Type S would wipe it clean, let alone a S class

bazz26

Cannot see anyone sinking €18k into this either:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201112201762241

Yakult

Looks like a modern take on the MK6 Carina E.

Not surprised its rare tbh :pac:

x in the city

bazz26 wrote: »

Cannot see anyone sinking €18k into this either:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201112201762241

The Legend is an aptly named car, about a million times better than a hyundai luxoshoite mobile also.!

x in the city

I just seen the interior of that legend, that is some serious quality and build in fairness.

R.O.R

VolvoMan wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Hyundai/Grandeur/3.3-V6-A/201109201491873/advert?channel=CARS

Hmmmmm.......Something looks familiar about that car

VolvoMan wrote: »

I reckon it would do CarinaBoy, as road tax wouldn't be an issue and he seems to like obscure executive saloons from Asia.

He already turned his nose up at it - would cost more to fuel than you get on the meter I reckon.

unkel wrote: »

It would have been about €50k new, not €70k (£27k UK price)

New car sales guide for June 06 has it listed as €42,000 and 232bhp.

Full service history, with no expense spared, and having had a brief drive of a very similar car, it actually shifts pretty well. That said, they are about the only plus points to the car - that, and it was a customer owned one so we didn't take a bath on it :D:D

Leonard Hofstadter

Aren't those yokes front wheel drive as well?

I'd say that and a big V6 under the bonnet means it'll handle like a boat!

Wetbench4

bazz26 wrote: »

Cannot see anyone sinking €18k into this either:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201112201762241

I would love that car!!

Looks like you could fit an octavia in the boot.:D

captainspeed

captainspeed wrote: »

Aren't those yokes front wheel drive as well?

I'd say that and a big V6 under the bonnet means it'll handle like a boat!

Mondeo ST220 is fwd, they handle ok
But I reckon the Hyundai is more a wafter than a handler by design.

bazz26

The Hyundai was designed as a leather couch on wheels, not as a sports car.

Leonard Hofstadter

RoverJames wrote: »

Mondeo ST220 is fwd, they handle ok
But I reckon the Hyundai is more a wafter than a handler by design.

Stop the press, there exists a Ford that you actually like:eek::D!

In fairness the Mondeo is well known for being a great drive, I don't think the Hyundai was ever designed with even a hint of driving pleasure in mind, especially as I've checked the old interweb and it says this yoke is indeed front wheel drive!

captainspeed

captainspeed wrote: »

Stop the press, there exists a Ford that you actually like:eek::D

Well the MG ZT is a better example of a V6 engined fwd car handling well as it p1sses all over (just about) an ST220 handling wise but one must post to the audience on here Also the ST220 is 3.0 so closer to the capacity of the yoke in the Hyundai.

I wouldn't fancy an ST220 due to the looks and it would remind me too much of the boggo LX deysel I spent 25,000 miles in

Any Volvo engined Ford is fine by me though, the decent ones are !!

VolvoMan

captainspeed wrote: »

Stop the press, there exists a Ford that you actually like:eek::D!

In fairness the Mondeo is well known for being a great drive, I don't think the Hyundai was ever designed with even a hint of driving pleasure in mind, especially as I've checked the old interweb and it says this yoke is indeed front wheel drive!

Man, you've got to stop taking what Autocar say as gospel.

Modern Fords handle well, but do very little else.

AugustusMinimus

bazz26 wrote: »

Cannot see anyone sinking €18k into this either:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201112201762241

I'm a fair old motorhead yet it's the first time I've ever heard of this car.

Good looking car. Can you get it in diesel ?

Leonard Hofstadter

VolvoMan wrote: »

Man, you've got to stop taking what Autocar say as gospel.

Modern Fords handle well, but do very little else.

You're just bitter about how Ford managed Volvo aren't you;)?

(FWIW they managed Volvo really badly)

If you were really a follower of Autocar you'd know they think the new Mk3 Focus is not a good car to drive at all!

Matt Simis

bazz26 wrote: »

Cannot see anyone sinking €18k into this either:
http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201112201762241

A much nicer looking car, but at near 20k thats way above used VW Phaeton V10TDI and W12 money which is leagues ahead of either of these. AWD too.
Phaeton is a reskinned Bentley so its always going to win obscure, used luxobarge top trumps.

VolvoMan

captainspeed wrote: »

If you were really a follower of Autocar you'd know they think the new Mk3 Focus is not a good car to drive at all!

That still didn't stop them from giving it 4/5 stars.