first shotgun

alan86

hi looking to buying my first shot gun and just looking for a few opinians on what make and i would be looking at buying a second hand gun so i was just wondering also on how much i would be looking at spending.

Cass

My first suggestion to all lads looking for a good new or second hand shotgun without breaking the bank would be the Bettinsoli.

They range from €800 - €1,300. The are excellent quality, well made, good stock with nice engraving. Secondhand about €450 - €500 for a good one. They come with multiple chokes and the Bettinsoli's are made/offshoot of Beretta.

Other makes to look at are Yildiz, Baikal. They are around the €550 mark new and obviously less second hand. They are a bit "less refined", but still a good gun and well capable of doing what you need to get started.

homerhop

Alan, what i would suggest to you is ask a few lads you know who have shotguns if can you get a shot out of theirs. See what you think feels right shooting and take it from there. Be it new or second hand, money is hard come by at the moment and you might as well get something you like than forking out for something ya dont like after a few shots.

alan86

alan86 wrote: »

hi looking to buying my first shot gun and just looking for a few opinians on what make and i would be looking at buying a second hand gun so i was just wondering also on how much i would be looking at spending.

just to add a bit more info i am looking for something to use rough shooting. o/u and i would be looking to spend between 300 and 500

Tackleberrywho

alan86 wrote: »

just to add a bit more info i am looking for something to use rough shooting. o/u and i would be looking to spend between 300 and 500

for that price you are looking at Lumar,Betinsoli,Remington,Baikal,Yildiz,Browning, Fabarm etc
in teh second hand or nearly new bracket.

I'd try and go to the top of your budget and get a nice tryglo bead on your shotgun rib to aid with duck and bird shooting

pugw

Would keep a semi auto in mind too, less recoil and some would argue a bit less bulky than an o/u or side by side for rough shooting! On the downside some peope disaprove of them when shootig with others!

Hunter21

Dont buy the idea of recoil is less with such and such a gun. Let that be the least of your worries, Ive shot many different shotguns, from Baikal to Beretta if you mount the gun properly and hold on with a firm grip you wont feel recoil as much as a careless mounting..
Best bet is take a trip to your local firearms dealer and browse around, mount a few guns and see what you feel you like. Dont be blinded by brands or prices awhile. Look at them after. Also dont let the salesman push you into buying such and such a brand.

Best of look with the search, keep us posted and ask lots of questions- get plenty of answers

Also what part of Cork are you located?

alan86

Hunter21 wrote: »

Dont buy the idea of recoil is less with such and such a gun. Let that be the least of your worries, Ive shot many different shotguns, from Baikal to Beretta if you mount the gun properly and hold on with a firm grip you wont feel recoil as much as a careless mounting..
Best bet is take a trip to your local firearms dealer and browse around, mount a few guns and see what you feel you like. Dont be blinded by brands or prices awhile. Look at them after. Also dont let the salesman push you into buying such and such a brand.

Best of look with the search, keep us posted and ask lots of questions- get plenty of answers

Also what part of Cork are you located?

living in doneraile

Dusty87

I wouldn rule out lanber either. Not the sexiest looking, but a good solid gun.

Hunter21

alan86 wrote: »

living in doneraile

Give a call in Pat Hayes- CountryLife Style in Mallow and give a browse around.

Dusty87 wrote: »

I wouldn rule out lanber either. Not the sexiest looking, but a good solid gun.

Have a Lanber 2077 myself, great gun. Most Lanbers are heavy but mine is a game model. Very light and little recoil, pity about the mule using it.... :pac:

alan86

Hunter21 wrote: »

Give a call in Pat Hayes- CountryLife Style in Mallow and give a browse around.

ya i must call in there also i have been reccomended the lazy dog it is around the knocklong area have u had any dealings there.

Mr.Woodcock

have a look at the lanber victoria, great gun, seconad hand for around 300-500euro. also have a look at silma, good gun for the money.

make sure you like the gun, and if u find one you like thats out of your price range, my advice save. dont settle.

one last thing make sure the gun fits you, its probaly the most important thing.

Xplor.er

if its an O/U you want i wouldnt rule out Winchester, franchi, Rizzini, Webley & Scott, there all good guns to.

you can get any make of auto S/H for that price, just have a good look around

Tackleberrywho

Mate of mine has a lovely Ruger Shotgun too!

http://www.ruger.com/products/redLabel12Gauge/models.html

it was not anything near teh list price on here though

Hunter21

Would you have interest in a Webley & Scott semi-auto?

alan86

Hunter21 wrote: »

Would you have interest in a Webley & Scott semi-auto?

no O/U is what i am looking for, thanks for the offer.

alan86

went to a couple of gunshops and the one i was most keen on was a new yildiz for about 550 and a couple of bits trown in with that. good price???

Tackleberrywho

alan86 wrote: »

went to a couple of gunshops and the one i was most keen on was a new yildiz for about 550 and a couple of bits trown in with that. good price???

Ya can't bate the Turks.

Make sure you get an upmarket Yildiz, exchangeable chokes ejector etc.

not the Box standard version as you'll never resell

Xplor.er

the yildiz will do you for starting off, but they dont last in the long run.
for that price is it the one with the black action? if so its a F/C and N/E which i would advise against

alan86

just read about the yildiz on a couple of websites and it sounds like they are a load of ****e

Xplor.er

alan86 wrote: »

just read about the yildiz on a couple of websites and it sounds like they are a load of ****e

i wouldnt say they are al load of ****e, they would suite someone who doesnt do a whole lot of shooting.

alan86

Xplor.er wrote: »

i wouldnt say they are al load of ****e, they would suite someone who doesnt do a whole lot of shooting.

would u say they would be alright for someone who will be using it for game shooting

Xplor.er

alan86 wrote: »

would u say they would be alright for someone who will be using it for game shooting

they would be OK! for game shooting, but if you start shooting a few clays you would be aswell to get rid of it, and dont expect a good trade in with it.

arrowloopboy

Xplor.er wrote: »

i wouldnt say they are al load of ****e, they would suite someone who doesnt do a whole lot of shooting.

Either would i,i'd say their a royal ball of Sh1te ,they'd suite someone that played golf,if Lidl done shotguns:rolleyes:,get a Baikal,their the automative equivelint of an oul Hilux,not a show pony but a work horse,if your not shooting with it you can bate briars,or drive stakes with it and it'll still work.

alan86

arrowloopboy wrote: »

Either would i,i'd say their a royal ball of Sh1te ,they'd suite someone that played golf,if Lidl done shotguns:rolleyes:,get a Baikal,their the automative equivelint of an oul Hilux,not a show pony but a work horse,if your not shooting with it you can bate briars,or drive stakes with it and it'll still work.

what price would i be looking at for one of them new and secondhand people have been saying lanber aswell what price are they.

arrowloopboy

alan86 wrote: »

what price would i be looking at for one of them new and secondhand people have been saying lanber aswell what price are they.

500 or 600 brand spanking new i'd say.

alan86

arrowloopboy wrote: »

500 or 600 brand spanking new i'd say.

around the same price as a yildiz so and from what i heard alot more solid

Mauser 308

alan86 wrote: »

living in doneraile

Alan Exridax advise is sound the Bettinsoli would be a good choice also a second hand Browning etc,etc, but drop into a few dealers with a good secondhand selection and try them all on for size. If something comes up well and you like the feel then you are 90% there.
Lovely spot your from. I went out with a girl originally from there for years, she was an O' Connor. Its a great village, I always loved it.

alan86

Mauser 308 wrote: »

Alan Exridax advise is sound the Bettinsoli would be a good choice also a second hand Browning etc,etc, but drop into a few dealers with a good secondhand selection and try them all on for size. If something comes up well and you like the feel then you are 90% there.
Lovely spot your from. I went out with a girl originally from there for years, she was an O' Connor. Its a great village, I always loved it.

ya its not a bad old spot down here i suppose. ya i must have a look in a few more dealers.

alan86

anyone know of any gun dealers open around the munster area today