new motorway campaign

padma

from rte http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0411/roads.html

will they educate on correct lane usage?

bazzachazza

padma wrote: »

from rte http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0411/roads.html

will they educate on correct lane usage?

No to easy !:o

Cookie_Monster

The National Roads Authority says that on a new stretch of road in Limerick, around 30 motorists a month are driving the wrong way down the motorway.

30 a month, what the fuck:confused:

Mena

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

30 a month, what the fuck:confused:

One can only but hope these are dopey tourists and not locals :eek:

CiniO

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

30 a month, what the fuck:confused:

I've seen one over last 2 years, and I drive very seldom on motorways.

So I assume it's quite usual.

Absurdum

some of the article is quite misleading imo.

Last year, 20% of those killed on motorways were pedestrians.

OMG the motorways must be full of pedestrians shock horror, people are morons, the RSA must spend more money etc.

Whereas the actual number is 1 or 2 pedestrian fatalities; I can't find the 2010 statistics, but in 2009 there were 4 fatalities on motorways (source: page 41 of 2009 report), and it's entirely possible that they were pedestrians as a result of a breakdown or puncture, so it's not like people are casually strolling up the M1 every day.

Almost 100 people have been killed or seriously injured on Irish motorways in the past five years.

Again, "almost" and "seriously" are arbitrary statements; was it 70 people? what extent were the injuries?

Last year, the AA also saw a 60% increase in the number of members who broke down on motorways.

There were 2 periods of extreme cold weather last year, traffic was at a crawl on many stretches of motorways, minor collisions occurred due to ice and snow (classified as call-outs by the AA or actual breakdowns??).

Also, many new stretches of motorway were opened in the last couple of years, so obviously the number of users has increased.

The whole thing reeks of the RSA covering their arses in case their budget gets cut.

In my opinion

corktina

pedestrians in this context must mean drivers/passeengers of broken down vehiocles walking for help I guess

Take no notice of what the AA say, they are just a commercial recovery company with pretentions to be the Motorists Spokesman....

Leonard Hofstadter

The RSA is the most retarded organisation in existence.

The single biggest problem with Irish motorways is people who do not understand the mind bogglingly simple concept of staying in the left lane all the time except when overtaking?

And yet we have a "campaign" to tell us about not walking on motorways:eek:?

Fine Gael and Labour had better get rid of this useless quango, and get rid of it fast.

Zubeneschamali

The new advertising campaign focuses on the key motorway issues of Lane Merging, Lane Discipline on 3 Lane Motorways, Overtaking and a Breakdown. It also reminds the public never to walk on a motorway and never to stop on the hard shoulder of a motorway.

Sounds fair enough to me. Link here.

Cookie_Monster

pity they didn't add cycling on motorways into that campaign

Beta Ray Bill

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

30 a month, what the fuck:confused:

I Read that too!!!

How can people be this stupid?
How is it possible like?

I do not understand! :mad:

Absurdum

Surely to jaysus if there are that many in a month on one particular stretch, it's something to do with the layout and signage

Beta Ray Bill

Absurdum wrote: »

Surely to jaysus if there are that many in a month on one particular stretch, it's something to do with the layout and signage

I'd say you're right

There has to be a bogey junction somewhere that is confusing people that are not local to that particular area

I wouldn't be at all surprised in fact

Cuddlesworth

I'm afraid nothing beats the car that performed a three point turn after missing his exit on the m50 between the firhouse and Tallagh. I literally **** myself a little from the sheer surprise of a car turning across three lanes to drive up a on ramp.

skyhighflyer

I hope they'll target people who pull in on the hard shoulder to take a phone call / rummage around for something in the back seat / give out to their kids or whatever. People need to realise they can't stop on a motorway unless it's an emergency.

Too many people treat the new motorways like the N-raods they replaced. Very dangerous for a car with kids in the back seat to be pulled over on the hard shoulder with cars whizzing past at 120kph +.

Voodoomelon

I've a feeling the way the RSA is going to handle the lane discipline problem is going to come across as a "suggestion" and people just aren't going to listen.

They need to say word for word "it is an offence to not keep left unless overtaking", highlighting the fact that it is law and not something you can choose to follow or not. They also need to dismiss the myth that is the "fast lane" and the "slow lane", publically state that these terms are made up the refer to them correctly as driving lanes and overtaking lanes.

Because I bet they'll just say it in passing, "keep left unless overtaking", which will just shoot over 95% of the dimwits heads who hog the wrong lane every day of the week.

Absurdum

it's on RTE News now, CCTV footage looks suspiciously foreign to me.

Message from AA is "don't break down on a motorway"

At least their was no mention of breaking the speed limit = certain death.

whyulittle

"Don't stop on the hard shoulder unless it's an emergency".

Hmmmm, how could we get that point across a bit stronger. Maybe if we called it the Emergency La.....nah, forget it.

Guy:Incognito

Saw the ad today and dissappointed with the section on moving to the middle lane to alow people to merge. It makes it sound mandatory. Every time I'm on a motorway here I come across people braking to create gaps or braking and moving to the middle lane because people are looking to merge. You should never have to brake on a motorway and certainly not in those circumstances. If everyone kept the right gaps in traffic, the peopel mergign on should be able to look after themselves withotu anyone doing anything but lettign off the accelerator a bit to re-establish the gap once someone moves in to it.

captainspeed wrote: »

And yet we have a "campaign" to tell us about not walking on motorways:eek:?.

In fairness, the section on the news just sad a decent percentage of people killed and injured on out motorways are pedestrians. Theres clearly a lot of idiots out there. Most tend to be in cars but a few cattle do seem to get loose and stray. Nothign worng with having it mentioned in the campaigns.

coylemj

corktina wrote: »

Take no notice of what the AA say, they are just a commercial recovery company with pretentions to be the Motorists Spokesman....

+1

I don't remember Conor Faughnan ever getting elected by the motorists of Ireland to speak on their behalf.

Solair

The National Roads Authority says that on a new stretch of road in Limerick, around 30 motorists a month are driving the wrong way down the motorway

If that many people are making that mistake then there's something wrong with the signage / layout.

coylemj

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Saw the ad today and dissappointed with the section on moving to the middle lane to alow people to merge. It makes it sound mandatory. Every time I'm on a motorway here I come across people braking to create gaps or braking and moving to the middle lane because people are looking to merge. You should never have to brake on a motorway and certainly not in those circumstances. If everyone kept the right gaps in traffic, the peopel mergign on should be able to look after themselves withotu anyone doing anything but lettign off the accelerator a bit to re-establish the gap once someone moves in to it.

Temporarily moving into the middle lane is often the safest way to allow someone to merge, especially if it's a thicko who doesn't appear to have the intelligence to adjust his speed to merge safely.

A lot of drivers think they can merge at whatever speed they like and the people on the motorway have to let them in no matter what, they don't seem to realise that the merging lane is as long as it is in order to allow them to adjust their speed to that of the traffic already on the motorway.

The merging lanes on Irish motorways are about three times longer than in France, a testament to the crappy driving standards in this country.

Guy:Incognito

They could have done with a section too dealing with the M50 and tellign peopel they dont all have to fight each other to get in to the outside of the 2 slip lanes at most junctions. The lane ends and gives about 30 metres to merge but all these idiots try to force themselves out in a train about 10 cars long.
The other bloody lane gives you the whole distance to the next junction to merge at your leisure. 9 times out of 10 when I use the M50 I end up ahead of all the idiots in the outside lane because they and the people on the carriageway are braking and jostling to get themselves sorted while I can continue in an empty lane at 100km/h and merge when theres a [rp[er gap.

Guy:Incognito

coylemj wrote: »

Temporarily moving into the middle lane is often the safest way to allow someone to merge, especially if it's a thicko who doesn't appear to have the intelligence to adjust his speed to merge safely.

A lot of drivers think they can merge at whatever speed they like and the people on the motorway have to let them in no matter what.

I've no issue with that but I just know what will happen now is that everyone in the driving lane will be brakign and divign in to the middle lane at the mere sight of a car on the slip. They could have worded it better to make sure people know they are not required to move if they dont have too.

Telling people that 100 is the speed they should be driving at not 80-90 wouldnt have gone amiss either.

coylemj

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I've no issue with that but I just know what will happen now is that everyone in the driving lane will be brakign and divign in to the middle lane at the mere sight of a car on the slip. They could have worded it better to make sure people know they are not required to move if they dont have too.

Agreed, it should be highlighted as an option at the discretion of the driver on the motorway.

However since 'middle lane hoggers' are the stated enemy of the boardsies on this forum, one would hope that a driver with the intelligence and good driving practice to be in the left lane in the first place will be sufficiently able to deal with merging cars and not automatically dive into the middle lane.

sporting dogs

the new EDT driving scheme should hopefully cut down on the amount of crashes an deaths on our motorways. up until now you could fail your driving test and yet drive home by yourself either on national road or the motorway.

as a instructor i teach carriageway driving , least when the pupils are out on their own they will have some idea of how to join the major roads

Voodoomelon

sporting dogs wrote: »

up until now you could fail your driving test and yet drive home by yourself either on national road or the motorway.

Learners aren't allowed on the motorway.

sporting dogs

learners arnt allowed on motorways your right, they are also not meant to drive without a full licence driver beside them but we all know plenty of L plate drivers who are out driving on their own

slimjimmc

corktina wrote: »

pedestrians in this context must mean drivers/passeengers of broken down vehiocles walking for help I guess

Take no notice of what the AA say, they are just a commercial recovery company with pretentions to be the Motorists Spokesman....

Some perhaps but from what I see quite a few aren't. I've seen quite a few 'pleasure' pedestrians on the M9 over the past 12 months. Some the one that come to mind were:
1 guy out jogging, 2 guys just strolling along together (no stopped car within 5km of them), another guy strolling, and only last week I saw a kid, about 12-14 years old at a guess, wobbling along the hard shoulder on an under-size bike and looking over his shoulder as if he was looking for a gap to cross.
So if you add that on top of the odd eejit you see standing at the central barrier trying the cross 3 lanes of the N7 in peak traffic, it only surprises me there aren't more serious accidents involving pedestrians.

Buffman

Here's the solution for idiots entering a motorway the wrong way. One way spikes at the bottom of each exit.

Seasoft

http://maps.google.ie/maps/empw?url=http:%2F%2Fmaps.google.ie%2Fmaps%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Dennis,clare%26gbv%3D2%26ie%3DUTF8%26hq%3D%26hnear%3DEnnis,%2BCounty%2BClare%26ll%3D52.84435,-8.982994%26spn%3D0.001898,0.004823%26t%3Dk%26z%3D14%26output%3Dembed&hl=en&gl=ie

This is a junction on the M18 at the Tulla Road from Ennis to Tulla. It is sub-standard in design, and has been the scene of at least one fatal "wrong-way" accident.
Both the on and off ramps are side by side, originally separated only by a continuous line of paint. A driver going down the on-ramp from the roundabout could easily think they were on a dual-way, cross into the other side, and end up driving the wrong way, especially at night. In the dark a driver entering the motorway did turn the wrong way, and died.
Afterwards, thin plastic bollards were but along the central line. Now it is clearer that it is a two way system to the motorway proper, but who allowed this junction to be approved beats me. Perhaps the Limerick motorway mentioned earlier also has a similar junction???
The penalty points should go to the designers/approvers and not the confused drivers.