DOG LICENSE, WHY BOTHER

jakdelad

anyone know what revenue was taken on dog licences last year
hardly anyone buys a dog license
why a license for a dog and not a cat ??
its a bit outdated
should it be scrapped completely

Im Only 71Kg

i agree it should be scrapped..cats are an absolute scourge.

MagicSean

The purpose of a dog licence is not to raise revenue but to control dog ownership. A person convicted of an animal related crime can be prohibited from holding a licence. Dogs are much more dangerous than cats, especially in the hands of a bad owner.

jakdelad

k_mac wrote: »

The purpose of a dog licence is not to raise revenue but to control dog ownership. A person convicted of an animal related crime can be prohibited from holding a licence. Dogs are much more dangerous than cats, especially in the hands of a bad owner.

prohibited from holding a dog licence
what if you never had one?

we should have a horse license an expensive one
so people would look after their animals
and a serious fine for being in pocession of an unlicenced horse

234

jakdelad wrote: »

we should have a horse license an expensive one
so people would look after their animals
and a serious fine for being in pocession of an unlicenced horse

Absolutely agreed. It's disgraceful that the Fine Gael promised to undo some of the only good the Green Party did in their animal welfare legislation.

Miss_F

Agree dog licence a bit outdated and cats can be dangerous too plus they carry disease,However it has been said if you have a dog licence you get an extra tenner or something to feed him/her if on the doal??

In relation to the Green Party comment they were part of the ruination of this country and I would back FG 100%. Agreed certain aspects of animal welfare need to be looked at but dont think the green party tackled the correct area.

Miss_F

jakdelad wrote: »

prohibited from holding a dog licence
what if you never had one?

we should have a horse license an expensive one
so people would look after their animals
and a serious fine for being in pocession of an unlicenced horse

Just for information purposes all horses in this country by law has to have an identification passport and be micro chipped and there are fines for those who do not follow procedure or are unable to show a horses passport on request.

And all this costs more then the 12 euro dog licence.

MagicSean

A cat can be dangerous? A Rottweiler can exert 16 pounds if pressure per square inch in his bite. A cat can scratch you. Big difference.

If you never had a licence you can be prosecuted and have your dog taken off you. It's the exact same idea as a gun licence.

Miss_F

k_mac wrote: »

A cat can be dangerous? A Rottweiler can exert 16 pounds if pressure per square inch in his bite. A cat can scratch you. Big difference.

If you never had a licence you can be prosecuted and have your gig taken off you. It's the exact same idea as a gun licence.

Ah you can get rabies from a cat and day can also bite, also 90% of them carry disease of some sort and their faces can transmit toxoplasmosis , which 60% of domestic cats being effected..
An gig isn't a horse !! An if you dont have a licence den it should be taken off you, like a gun we dont want every incompetent idiot running around with one now do we.

MagicSean

Miss_F wrote: »

Ah you can get rabies from a cat and day can also bite, also 90% of them carry disease of some sort and their faces can transmit toxoplasmosis , which 60% of domestic cats being effected..
An gig isn't a horse !! An if you dont have a licence den it should be taken off you, like a gun we dont want every incompetent idiot running around with one now do we.

I was talking about a dog not a horse. As for the cat getting rabies you're kind of missing the point of why a dog is more dangerous and needs to be controlled.

Miss_F

k_mac wrote: »

I was talking about a dog not a horse. As for the cat getting rabies you're kind of missing the point of why a dog is more dangerous and needs to be controlled.

You said gig first try checking your spelling before posting in future!! Also my point is in relation to dogs and cats in that an equal level of control should be exercised and therefore both should incur the same licencing procedures.

In case you are still confused as to the threat posed by felines please reference this thread , http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056232705

time lord

jakdelad wrote: »

anyone know what revenue was taken on dog licences last year
hardly anyone buys a dog license
why a license for a dog and not a cat ??
its a bit outdated
should it be scrapped completely

I have some figures for a large midland county, not exactly what you asked for but better than nothing.
It takes in about 3200 licence fees every year at €12.70 each. This number is going down since 2008.(3987)

The uptake on licence purchase as far as all enforcement individuals (Wardens, county vet etc.) are concerned is about 50%.

The price was due to go up to €20 before the change in govt.
It is a help to have a licence system particularly for keeping tabs on certain breeds on the "dangerous dog list".

This county puts down more dogs than the whole of Scotland and has on average one stray for every 46 people whereas Scotland has one stray for every 740 people approx.

slimjimmc

Miss_F wrote: »

You said gig first try checking your spelling before posting in future!! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056232705

LOL. You should look before you leap, Miss_F.

Miss_F wrote: »

Ah you can get rabies from a cat and day can also bite, also 90% of them carry disease of some sort and their faces can transmit toxoplasmosis , which 60% of domestic cats being effected..
An gig isn't a horse !! An if you dont have a licence den it should be taken off you, like a gun we dont want every incompetent idiot running around with one now do we.

PS: you can get rabies from any animal that carries it. Thankfully, Ireland is still rabies free although there are a few rare cases where people have been infected by imported pets.

The dog licence also helps towards the cost of providing a dog warden and pound.

Miss_F

slimjimmc wrote: »

LOL. You should look before you leap, Miss_F.


PS: you can get rabies from any animal that carries it. Thankfully, Ireland is still rabies free although there are a few rare cases where people have been infected by imported pets.

The dog licence also helps towards the cost of providing a dog warden and pound.

Sorry was I taking to you??

Bit of a difference between a gig and a dog!!!!!
At least everything in my post could be understood despite my spelling/grammatical errors as I had meant it to be. Also nice to see you went to the bother of going back through my previous posts.

MagicSean

Miss_F wrote: »

Sorry was I taking to you??

Bit of a difference between a gig and a dog!!!!!
At least everything in my post could be understood despite my spelling/grammatical errors as I had meant it to be. Also nice to see you went to the bother of going back through my previous posts.

You do know it's a public forum don't you? I'm sorry my spelling mistake confused and angered you. I will be sure to not trust my predictive text in future. But if pointing out spelling mistakes and comparing a tetanus shot to a dog bite is the best you can come up with you're fighting a losing battle.

Miss_F

k_mac wrote: »

You do know it's a public forum don't you? I'm sorry my spelling mistake confused and angered you. I will be sure to not trust my predictive text in future. But if pointing out spelling mistakes and comparing a tetanus shot to a dog bite is the best you can come up with you're fighting a losing battle.

k_mac I am fully aware this is a public forum and that this discussion is an open one, What annoyed me is the fact that I genuinely believed you were talking about a 'gig' as in equestrian terms and wanted to correct your comment.

As for comparing a tetanus shot to a dog bite, My primary issue with this thread is the fact that dog owners are punished by an outdated law, Cats have become a major problem in urban area's largely due to irresponsible owners, I believe a licence should be introduced as should a cull of stray/feral cats be carried out the address this issue.

tommy21

The bickering in this thread is unreal, go nitpick privately. As for the OP's question, it probably should purely because it is not even properly enforced, nor does the money seem to be put to anything useful, such as cleaning up the mess left behind by careless owners. I've seen dogs classified as "dangerous" that are supposed to be muzzled all the time in public three times in the last two weeks. That said there is one good reason I renew every year (have a border collie) - without it your dog insurance is void (though they are only likely to check in the event of your dog biting someone or causing an accident I'd imagine).

pajodublin

Miss_F wrote: »

Ah you can get rabies from a cat and day can also bite, also 90% of them carry disease of some sort and their faces can transmit toxoplasmosis , which 60% of domestic cats being effected..
An gig isn't a horse !! An if you dont have a licence den it should be taken off you, like a gun we dont want every incompetent idiot running around with one now do we.

Would love to know where you got those statistics.
I reckon you pulled them out of your arse.
1. We don't have rabies in Ireland (as someone else said apart from imported animals but generally we do not)

2. 90% of cats carry disease? 60% have toxoplasmosis in their faeces? SERIOUSLY!!!
i have 2 cats (and 1 dog) and i assure you neither of them or any cat i have ever owned has had it or any disease.

You haven't a clue so why pluck statistics from Thin air just to prove your point which is wrong in the first place.

Yes cat faeces are dangerous. BUT so are dogs and even HUMANS, Imagine that!!!

Some people!

Miss_F

pajodublin wrote: »

Would love to know where you got those statistics.
I reckon you pulled them out of your arse.
1. We don't have rabies in Ireland (as someone else said apart from imported animals but generally we do not)

2. 90% of cats carry disease? 60% have toxoplasmosis in their faeces? SERIOUSLY!!!
i have 2 cats (and 1 dog) and i assure you neither of them or any cat i have ever owned has had it or any disease.

You haven't a clue so why pluck statistics from Thin air just to prove your point which is wrong in the first place.

Yes cat faeces are dangerous. BUT so are dogs and even HUMANS, Imagine that!!!

Some people!

I dont approve of that type of language!

Try reading at any point did I say Ireland???

Am, wikipedia where else

You seem to be taking my comment completely out of context, my original point was that cats should have to be licensed as well as dogs (and all other domestic animals for that matter within reason) Would if noting else this not maybe take a step towards promoting better pet ownership or else do away with the license altogether . I dont really care if your cat or anyone else's cat is diseased or not, its not my problem, however i do think that cats , dogs , etc should be treated equally.

pajodublin

Miss_F wrote: »

I dont approve of that type of language!

Try reading at any point did I say Ireland???

Am, wikipedia where else

You seem to be taking my comment completely out of context, my original point was that cats should have to be licensed as well as dogs (and all other domestic animals for that matter within reason) Would if noting else this not maybe take a step towards promoting better pet ownership or else do away with the license altogether . I dont really care if your cat or anyone else's cat is diseased or not, its not my problem, however i do think that cats , dogs , etc should be treated equally.

1. I said arse, get over it
2. You didn't say Ireland BUT! the original post is about dog licencing In IRELAND, on which you commented on with regard to other animal licencing IN IRELAND!
3. Because everything written on Wikipedia is fact... :rolleyes:
4. There is a dog licence for the upkeep of dog pounds and dog wardens etc, No such thing exists for cats or other domestic animals because it is not warranted. 1,000s of healthy dogs are put to sleep in Ireland every year.
5. It's not your problem, then why did you bring it up like it affected the way you live?
Yes i agree, cats and dogs should be treated equally, then people like YOU won't go around thinking that cats are vermon and treat them like such.

Sigh!!

Miss_F

pajodublin wrote: »

1. I said arse, get over it
2. You didn't say Ireland BUT! the original post is about dog licencing In IRELAND, on which you commented on with regard to other animal licencing IN IRELAND!
3. Because everything written on Wikipedia is fact... :rolleyes:
4. There is a dog licence for the upkeep of dog pounds and dog wardens etc, No such thing exists for cats or other domestic animals because it is not warranted. 1,000s of healthy dogs are put to sleep in Ireland every year.
5. It's not your problem, then why did you bring it up like it affected the way you live?
Yes i agree, cats and dogs should be treated equally, then people like YOU won't go around thinking that cats are vermon and treat them like such.

Sigh!!

1.Thread heading DOG LICENCE WHY BOTHER.
2.Do you have dog licence den? Or just pretending?
3.Never said a licence existed for cats said it should and for other domestic animals.
4. Who is people like me then?
Cause i dont no you and certainly you dont no me so how can you make a comment like that?

Such a vulgar little person you are, all up in a huff cause someone said you should have to pay an extra 12 euro or before you correct me 12.70

ABajaninCork

Aren't cats classed as wild animals??

They are in the UK where I'm from. For example, if you run over a dog, then by law you HAVE to report it to the police. If you run over a cat, then you don't.

My 2c's worth? If you worm and flea the animals regularly, then the risk of disease is greatly reduced. ALL animals have the capability to carry diseases, not just dogs/cats/rats/mices. It's the mark of a responsible, caring owner to minimise the risk and ensure the correct worming, inoculation & fleaing procedures are carried out.

BTW - I've had three cats, all of whom were wormed/de-fleaed/inouclated regularly. All except for one who was run over lived to a ripe old age (18 & 16). I also have a dog for whom I have a licence, and all the necessary bits (inoculations, flea programme, etc.)

FreudianSlippers

OK EVERYONE COOL DOWN OR ELSE THE THREAD IS CLOSING.


Now, if you want to post "facts" and statistics from now on in this thread then please provide a link to the source.

EOGON1

I was fined last year for my two dogs by SDCC ,why because i moved address ,dont believe it have a look at your licence.