Nalini Team Caisse Bib Shorts - any feedaback?

Black Bloc

Cycle Superstore are offering these bib shorts. I have a Bicycle-Line long bib tights which are super. Has anyone tried the Nalini? What are they like in the tender areas for men? Good padding?

OldPeculier

I have a pair, size m I think, they are a little tighter on the shoulders than other size m's which have always fit me fine. The "silicone leg grippers" seemed like a great idea but they do pinch a little at times and be be uncomfortable. I have a pair of these and I love them, comfort, fit and padding is very good

ednwireland

i have a pair but they were 2009 rabobank ones they are ok but the chamois is poor its just a flat peice of clothe with padding underneath (not complaining though got for 19 quid on a clearout)

hope the newer ones have a better chammy for that price i'd be looking at something like the santini gitcx (or twist gel if you find the right sale)

Black Bloc

Any experience with Northwave? (I looked at Assos - expensive in Ireland)