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Been away for more than two years (dole Q)

  • 05-04-2011 9:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    I did a search and couldnt find a post for this before but im sure its been asked. I need to find a way of getting on the dole when i get home or im not going to have an easy life. does anyone know any way of getting on it? I will do anything legal to do it.

    Sorry if this is the wrong section


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    www.citizensinformation.ie would be your best bet.

    As far as I know, you won't be entitled to JSB having been away for 2 years but you may still qualify for JSA though you may have to wait for a means test to be carried out etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    You won't qualify for any social assistance in Ireland.

    You exceed the terms of the habitual residence rule
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1028/1224282143695.html

    Not good news for you I'm sure, sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Dannyboy83


    later10 wrote: »
    I don't want to be seen to be promoting something which isn't considered legal, however is this not very much a case of Don't Ask, Don't Tell? I say this because a family member of mine recently went back to Ireland from a year in the US and being unable to find a job, this is exactly what he was told by a SW inspector in his own house!

    For younger people, particularly those who were recently students, it wouldnt be particularly unusual to have no real records here such as meaningful bank statements.

    Based on the experiences I've seen of friends, it's pretty much down to
    A) your own nationality; if you're Irish you have a way better chance than a non-national in the same situation
    &
    B) the luck of the draw with the inspector you get

    Just hope you don't fall through the cracks of the Irish welfare system, because then you are truly screwed, they keep you in limbo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Dannyboy83 wrote: »
    You won't qualify for any social assistance in Ireland.

    You exceed the terms of the habitual residence rule
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1028/1224282143695.html

    Not good news for you I'm sure, sorry.

    This is not necessarily true OP will be classed as returning Irish and may meet the HRC rule.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    eastbono wrote: »
    This is not necessarily true OP will be classed as returning Irish and may meet the HRC rule.

    I agree.

    If the OP is say, 30, and has spent all his life here except for the last 2 years, then I'd say he's ok.

    There is no defined time limit with regard to living abroad:

    "The term habitually resident is not defined in either Irish or EC law. However, the following 5 factors, which have been set down in Irish and European law, will be examined to find out if you are habitually resident in Ireland:

    Length and continuity of residence in Ireland or other parts of the Common Travel Area
    Length and purpose of any absence from Ireland or the Common Travel Area
    Nature and pattern of employment
    Your main centre of interest
    Your future intentions to live in Ireland as it appears from the evidence"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭petethebrick


    Dannyboy83 wrote: »
    You won't qualify for any social assistance in Ireland.

    You exceed the terms of the habitual residence rule
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1028/1224282143695.html

    Not good news for you I'm sure, sorry.

    Nonsense! Think before you post silly comments like this.
    OP - You won't qualify for Job Seekers Benefit, but you will get Job Seekers Allowance which is essentially the same thing except you have to undergo a means test and interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,291 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP - You won't qualify for Job Seekers Benefit, but you will get Job Seekers Allowance which is essentially the same thing except you have to undergo a means test and interview

    Nonsense yourself.

    The OP will have to meet Habitual Residence criteria, like every other applicant.

    The most common way to meet this is to live here for two years. But I understand there are other ways, and I'm transferring this thread to the State Benefits forum where hopefully s/he will get more up-to-date advice.

    OP, make sure you get and keep evidence that you're transferring your whole life back to Ireland. At very least, proof that you've closed foreign bank accounts and disposed of all possessions (including land/houses) there.

    Also, if you don't qualify for JSA, and really do have no money, there's something called Supplementary Welfare Allowance, which may be another option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    OP you need to give us more info. How long have you been out of Ireland, have you ever worked in Ireland etc.


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