DCENR ducting consultation

clohamon

DCENR have issued a consultation document on open access ducting for residences.

Although it is unlikely that multiple FTTH networks will be rolled out in Ireland, due to the high cost of civil works and the low population density….

Nonetheless, they go on to specify a duct that has provision for three fibre mini-tubes, copper POTS and two coax cables.

Its this baby here..



So, loads of redundancy built in on the customer side. Lets see if they're as far-seeing when it comes to the industry side.

The full consultation document is here and the deadline is 5pm on May 16th

watty

There will be hardly any more development for the next 10 years, esp with Birth rate below 2.5 and Emigration. Should have been done 10 years ago. Better late than never?

oscarBravo

Looks like they're proposing a recommendation rather than mandatory construction. I'm sure lots and lots of developers will voluntarily include ducting out of the goodness of their hearts.

SeaSide

Wow, in 2008 this was to be in place by the end of the year. Now in 2011 we're still consulting on it. It's almost like the last two years didn't happen but then most of the Cabinet were doing their hair while Brian^2 sold us to the Germans

clohamon

oscarBravo wrote: »

Looks like they're proposing a recommendation rather than mandatory construction. I'm sure lots and lots of developers will voluntarily include ducting out of the goodness of their hearts.

Thats one of the questions on page 22.

1.65 Do you agree with the non mandatory approach of issuing recommendations rather than mandating construction ?
1.66 Should the open access fibre ducting be mandatory to install but not mandatory to use?

The full list below.

Appendix A – Consultation Questions

Overall approach
[*]1.63 Are there any other issues that need to be considered that may not have been addressed in this document?
[*]1.64 Are recommendations necessary for the installation of fibre ducting to the home?
[*]1.65 Do you agree with the non mandatory approach of issuing recommendations rather than mandating construction ?
[*]1.66 Should the open access fibre ducting be mandatory to install but not mandatory to use?
[*]1.67 Should another approach be adopted
[*]1.68 Are the recommendations overlooking anything?
[*]1.69 What is the best way to ensure that the recommendations are easily accessible and well known to developers?
[*]Impact
[*]1.70 What groups or individuals will be impacted by these recommendations?
[*]1.71 What impact will the draft recommendations that are being consulted on have either postive or negative? ‐ explain giving reasons.
[*]1.72 How significant will the impacts described in question 3 be?
[*]1.73 Do you believe that that the scope of what is being proposed is too broad or narrow – explain?
[*]1.74 Will the recommendations be implementable for developers? Is there sufficient information for developers to implement them?
[*]1.75 Do the recommendations go far enough to be make a difference to the provision of FTTH at a future date? In what way could they be improved?
[*]1.76 Do the recommendations address the various types of residential buildings (apartments, terraced, semi‐detached, detached) adequately?
[*]1.77 Should the recommendations apply to commercial buildings?
[*]Cost/Benefits
[*]1.78 Please identify any significant costs or benefits that you believe may arise from these proposals
[*]1.79 Do you believe the scope of what is being proposed strikes the right balance between costs imposed and benefits to be gained?
[*]Recommendations For Open Access Fibre Ducting and Interior Cabling for New Residential Buildings ‐Making Homes Fibre Ready
[*]1.80 Is there an unreasonable cost burden for developers?
[*]Technical Issues
[*]1.81 Q6. Are the technical issues set out in the regulation clear – please highlight any issues that require clarification
[*]1.82 Q7. Is the approach set out in the standards correct – please highlight any general or specific issue that you believe may need to be clarified, modified corrected or changed.
[*]1.83 Is the minimum specification of Coaxial Cable and Category 6 cabling adequate?
[*]1.84 Should wireless routers be included and how?

oscarBravo

clohamon wrote: »

Thats one of the questions on page 22.

Yeah, I know. My experience with consultations (not from DCENR, in fairness) is that the initial proposal tends not to get varied from. Operators will say that they should be mandatory, developers will say that they should be optional, and my guess is that the Department will split the difference and go with what they originally proposed.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

rob808

The problem is can't see any of this happen always we get document saying this and that but notting ever happen all they do is talk and debate.That document has more question which by now at time 2011 they should all ready know what need to be done that Ireland for ya.