Car Bomb in Omagh

PomBear

Reports of one PSNI officer killed

A bomb has exploded in Omagh, County Tyrone, on Saturday afternoon.

Police said the booby-trap type device may have detonated under a car in the Highfield Close area of Gortin Road in the town.

more to follow....

Madam

Jesus, not again!!!!!!!!:mad:

Mint Sauce

From the Beeb

A bomb has exploded in Omagh, County Tyrone, on Saturday afternoon.

Police said the booby-trap type device may have detonated under a car in the Highfield Close area of Gortin Road in the town.

It is not clear if there have been any casualties yet.

More details to follow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12947225

later12

It occured in a private residential area and was obviously designed to target one man and his family, almost undoubtedly a Catholic member of the PSNI.

Mister men

Was going to happen sooner rather than later. The hardcore needs to be crushed before this thing gains legs and are put back 20 years.

dlofnep

Any confirmation on the death? Tragic events. These people need to realise that these events only divide the community rather than bring them together.

Madam

Mister men wrote: »

Was going to happen sooner rather than later. The hardcore needs to be crushed before this thing gains legs and are put back 20 years.

The thing is there must be people who harbour these 'things'(could'nt call them human and would be an insult to call them animals).

fingerbob

dlofnep wrote: »

Any confirmation on the death? Tragic events. These people need to realise that these events only divide the community rather than bring them together.

In alot of ways it unites the rest of the community against these absolute knobs.

later12

Corsendonk wrote: »

The only way to crush the head the balls that did this is to overnight eliminate them. Thats what Collins would have done.

And give them a martyr? There would be some toothless, inbred, barstool republican singing rebel songs about that sort of individual in fifty years time.

If ever there was a reason to distance ourselves from the north, it is during times like this.

Mint Sauce

dlofnep wrote: »

Any confirmation on the death? Tragic events. These people need to realise that these events only divide the community rather than bring them together.

Neither RTE, BBC, or SKY are reporting a death, all reporting injuried person is critical.

Either way, I dont understand why these people can simply not move on, the troubles, the violence, the bombs, should all be consigned to history by now.

The current generations should not be faced with this, and whilst there are those that are easily influneced by this kind of thing, there will never be peace on this Island.

Madam

irish-stew wrote: »

Neither RTE, BBC, or SKY are reporting a death, all reporting injuried person is critical.

Either way, I dont understand why these people can simply not move on, the troubles, the violence, the bombs, should all be consigned to history by now.

The current generations should not be faced with this, and whilst there are those that are easily influneced by this kind of thing, there will never be peace on this Island.

I'm inclined to think they get a buzz from doing this, :mad:

tbh

dlofnep wrote: »

. These people need to realise that these events only divide the community rather than bring them together.

Need to realise? I think not only do they realise it, it's the whole point of why they do it.

mike65

These boyos are dead beats and political non entities, relics of a past. I doubt they think they have anything better to do with their "skill sets" and no one has been able to persuade them of not seeking to kill and maim.

aquascrotum

UTV reporting the victim has died.

http://www.u.tv/News/PSNI-officer-killed-in-Omagh-car-bomb/5503650b-b0ee-4c5f-8ac7-34fcadfa38e6

Callous b*stards. We won't let them drag us back.

Corsendonk

later10 wrote: »

And give them a martyr? There would be some toothless, inbred, barstool republican singing rebel songs about that sort of individual in fifty years time.

If ever there was a reason to distance ourselves from the north, it is during times like this.

Sad to say but groups that commit such crimes as this actually have a growing support down south among a younger generation who have fallen for those songs and the keep Ireland for the Irish lobby. So better to eliminate the cancer before it spreads any further down here.

Why do these dissidents target police officers in this way?

Is there still a feeling of police brutality/victimisation among the Nationalists in the North ??

I assumed the new police force was, by-and-large, seen as fair and impartial.

I can't believe this is still happening.

RIP

Wolfe Tone

Apparently it was a newly recruited cop, just 25 years old. Mothers day tomorrow and all, his poor Ma.


Absolute disgrace this is, and whats worse is that they know this wont bring about a united Ireland so it really is just killing for the sake of it.

later12

salonfire wrote: »

Why do these dissidents target police officers in this way?

No nothing to do with victimisation or brutality, it's simply the fact that they view co-operation with the police and recruitment into the police by those from traditionally nationalist republican backgrounds (I'm tempted to say Catholics) as a form of betrayal to the cause (the cause apparently being dragging Northern Ireland's reputation back to the gutter).

Mint Sauce

All the news sites now reporting he has died.

RIP

Sergeant

All this does is satisfy a blood lust for these animals. It serves no purpose.

junder

salonfire wrote: »

Why do these dissidents target police officers in this way?

Is there still a feeling of police brutality/victimisation among the Nationalists in the North ??

I assumed the new police force was, by-and-large, seen as fair and impartial.

I can't believe this is still happening.

RIP

Quite simply because he was a easy target

Gunga Din

This is really sickening. its going to achieve absolutely nothing.

dlofnep

tbh wrote: »

Need to realise? I think not only do they realise it, it's the whole point of why they do it.

I doubt they are doing it to divide the communities intentionally. They are doing it to destabilise the peace process.

cyberhog

The bastards responsible for this attack are pure evil. I sincerely hope the authorities root them out, where ever they are hiding and bring them to justice.

junder

The murdered man was a 25 year old catholic police officer only qualified 3 weeks ago. My thoughts are with his family, most of us in northern Ireland had hoped that all this was behind us

galwayrush

A very sad day for all Ireland, and especially so for the victim's family. RIP.

lugha

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Absolute disgrace this is, and whats worse is that they know this wont bring about a united Ireland so it really is just killing for the sake of it.

I doubt very much that they are killing for the sake of it. They can (reasonably enough) argue that democratic means have not delivered an end to the British presence in Ireland. We can of course say to them that their actions do not have the support of the people and neither is there any great likelihood that the same actions will in themselves achieve anything.

Unfortunately, they can look to our history and point at events which did not deliver anything directly and did not have the support of the people but which are not viewed by most in a very different way than the dissidents are viewed.

This is the price we pay for revisionism. We reap what we sow.

Wolfe Tone

lugha wrote: »

I doubt very much that they are killing for the sake of it. They can (reasonably enough) argue that democratic means have not delivered an end to the British presence in Ireland. We can of course say to them that their actions do not have the support of the people and neither is there any great likelihood that the same actions will in themselves achieve anything.

Unfortunately, they can look to our history and point at events which did not deliver anything directly and did not have the support of the people but which are not viewed by most in a very different way than the dissidents are viewed.

This is the price we pay for revisionism. We reap what we sow.

They, and there supporters, know that their campaign wont "drive the brits out" So in my opinion, seen as they know that, it is simply killing for the sake of it.

karma_

lugha wrote: »

I doubt very much that they are killing for the sake of it. They can (reasonably enough) argue that democratic means have not delivered an end to the British presence in Ireland. We can of course say to them that their actions do not have the support of the people and neither is there any great likelihood that the same actions will in themselves achieve anything.

Unfortunately, they can look to our history and point at events which did not deliver anything directly and did not have the support of the people but which are not viewed by most in a very different way than the dissidents are viewed.

This is the price we pay for revisionism. We reap what we sow.

A load of nonsense to be blunt.

To prove you are wrong all we have to do is look at the recent history of NI during the troubles. During the hight of the troubles, the vast majority of nationalists voted for the SDLP and it was not until SF gave up violence that their popularity soared, which is actually the inverse of what you are trying to say.

What were you saying about revisionism?

Terrontress

dlofnep wrote: »

I doubt they are doing it to divide the communities intentionally. They are doing it to destabilise the peace process.

They are doing it because they are pathetic, failed men with nothing to offer and in the romantic old days of the troubles they felt that they were big shots by sneaking around, planting bombs, causing misery.

With the peace process they no longer had that sense of self-worth and so they go back to the killing, the maiming. They will never be happy unless they are destroying.

Let's not forget Peadar Heffernan who has been condemned to a life of disability by these swine. I pray that today's unfortunate victim went quickly and knew nothing of it. Checked out with his head held high.

amacachi

dlofnep wrote: »

I doubt they are doing it to divide the communities intentionally. They are doing it to destabilise the peace process.

Why target only one side of the community then?

Terrontress

The victim has been named as Ronan Kerr. The assumption that he was a Catholic is more or less confirmed, given his name. RIP Ronan Kerr.

OhNoYouDidn't

amacachi wrote: »

Why target only one side of the community then?

They didn't. They targeted a policeman who knew the risk when he joined up.

Lets be clear here, I do not support the dissidents for one second, but I think two important points need to be made.

1: The PSNI are still not accepted by a large number of folk in the 6 counties as a fair and impartial police force.

2: Pearse was right. Ireland unfree will never be at peace. While there is British rule, there will be people who will fight that rule.

Some of the hand-wringing on this thread is cringeworthy.

RDM_83 again

Yeah it could well be argued that the reform/transformation of the RUC to the PSNI didn't go far enough, that said what makes these actions really bad for the north in general is that it makes a reformed balanced police force harder to achieve/maintain.

PS I've met protestants called Kerr

OhNoYouDidn't

amacachi wrote: »

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

There is inane naivety on this thread. "We aren't going back"... We never left those days, thats the bloody point. People assume the political peace has translated to change on the ground.

The police force has not embedded itself into the community. It is still a target to the dissidents. The guy joined up with his eyes open.

I do not support targeting the cops, but I am also not naive enough to think we will ever see a day when men with guns enforcing British rule will not be attacked

tbh

RDM_83 again wrote: »

PS I've met protestants called Kerr

Not many called Ronan tho, I'd say.

Terrontress

RDM_83 again wrote: »

PS I've met protestants called Kerr

I shared a student house with protestant called Kerr. I've never known a protestant called Ronan though.

alan85

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

They didn't. They targeted a policeman who knew the risk when he joined up.

Lets be clear here, I do not support the dissidents for one second, but I think two important points need to be made.

1: The PSNI are still not accepted by a large number of folk in the 6 counties as a fair and impartial police force.

2: Pearse was right. Ireland unfree will never be at peace. While there is British rule, there will be people who will fight that rule.

Some of the hand-wringing on this thread is cringeworthy.

I agree. It's been clear for a while this was inevitable really. The amount of attempts recently. I think it's terrible for the family and Ireland in general. It is a peace process, is on-going and in so much as any society has its disaffected the North of Ireland will do too. But rather than say these people are nutjobs and unwanted by all why not ask how did it end up at this juncture? What attracted them to do it? What was their thought process and what can we do on the island to stop it?

Distancing yourself makes it worse I think...

amacachi

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

There is inane naivety on this thread. "We aren't going back"... We never left those days, thats the bloody point. People assume the political peace has translated to change on the ground.

Things are a fair bit better than they were and as I've pointed out Christ knows how many times before the troubles started over civil rights and morphed (for obvious reasons due to idiocy on both sides) into a nationality-based war. In terms of civil rights things have completely changed and it's now Protestants who are being left behind in education etc.

The police force has not embedded itself into the community. It is still a target to the dissidents. The guy joined up with his eyes open.

I do not support targeting the cops, but I am also not naive enough to think we will ever see a day when men with guns enforcing British rule will not be attacked

Do you think people who are condemning this don't know that? Really?

OhNoYouDidn't

alan85 wrote: »

I agree. It's been clear for a while this was inevitable really. The amount of attempts recently. I think it's terrible for the family and Ireland in general. It is a peace process, is on-going and in so much as any society has its disaffected the North of Ireland will do too. But rather than say these people are nutjobs and unwanted by all why not ask how did it end up at this juncture? What attracted them to do it? What was their thought process and what can we do on the island to stop it?

Distancing yourself makes it worse I think...

You aren't allowed ask these questions on here. Makes you a supporter of terrorism.

Wolfe Tone

alan85 wrote: »

I agree. It's been clear for a while this was inevitable really. The amount of attempts recently. I think it's terrible for the family and Ireland in general. It is a peace process, is on-going and in so much as any society has its disaffected the North of Ireland will do too. But rather than say these people are nutjobs and unwanted by all why not ask how did it end up at this juncture? What attracted them to do it? What was their thought process and what can we do on the island to stop it?

Distancing yourself makes it worse I think...

I could, and would try to answer them but any attempt at understanding or answering those questions makes you a supporter apparently, thems dangerous questions!

OhNoYouDidn't

amacachi wrote: »

Things are a fair bit better than they were and as I've pointed out Christ knows how many times before the troubles started over civil rights and morphed (for obvious reasons due to idiocy on both sides) into a nationality-based war. In terms of civil rights things have completely changed and it's now Protestants who are being left behind in education etc.

For the IRA it was always Brits out. Was in 69 for the Sticks, 89 for the Provos, is now for the Cokes.

amacachi wrote: »

Do you think people who are condemning this don't know that? Really?

I think they don't actually. Never forget that a huge number of posters on this site are kids who rarely leave the bedroom.

amacachi

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

For the IRA it was always Brits out. Was in 69 for the Sticks, 89 for the Provos, is now for the Cokes.

If you say so.

I think they don't actually. Never forget that a huge number of posters on this site are kids who rarely leave the bedroom.

Speak for yourself.

Wolfe Tone

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Yeah it could well be argued that the reform/transformation of the RUC to the PSNI didn't go far enough, that said what makes these actions really bad for the north in general is that it makes a reformed balanced police force harder to achieve/maintain.

PS I've met protestants called Kerr

They are ending the 50-50 recruitment too apparently, a bad move imo.

I am pie

the only revision at play here is a horrid moral revisionism which points the blame for a cold and callous murder at anyone other than the cowardly swine who planted the bomb.

If we are going to be 'clear', there are no elected politicians in Ireland representing physical force republicanism.

The usual suspects here will point at at the police and british army, which is the real "cringeworthiness" on this thread.

The police have changed, the north has substantially changed, the army are not on the streets.

How anyone can support the death of young irishman the day before mothers day and claim that it's in support of a free ireland is quite simply disgusting.

RIP young Ronan Kerr.

tbh

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

You aren't allowed ask these questions on here. Makes you a supporter of terrorism.

It's not that. The question above basically asks "how would these murderes justify this murder?" some people on this site, me included, would suggest that there really isn't any justification they could give that would make this into anything else but a murder of someone we need more of by someone we would be better off without. A lot of posters on this site wouldn't stop to think "what made that pedophile abuse that child", the question you think we are afraid of addressing is much the same.

OhNoYouDidn't

I am pie wrote: »

the only revision at play here is a horrid moral revisionism which points the blame for a cold and callous murder at anyone other than the cowardly swine who planted the bomb.

If we are going to be 'clear', there are no elected politicians in Ireland representing physical force republicanism.

The usual suspects here will point at at the police and british army, which is the real "cringeworthiness" on this thread.

The police have changed, the north has substantially changed, the army are not on the streets.

How anyone can support the death of young irishman the day before mothers day and claim that it's in support of a free ireland is quite simply disgusting.

RIP young Ronan Kerr.

And we are off....

Who actually said any of the above? Where is the support for the bombins? Pure strawman. The blame is being squarely laid, just that some posters have the audacity to place the attack in a context as opposed to the 'conflict junkie' line...

amacachi

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

They are ending the 50-50 recruitment too apparently, a bad move imo.

I thought it was about time til I read how low the current ratio still is.

OhNoYouDidn't

tbh wrote: »

It's not that. The question above basically asks "how would these murderes justify this murder?" some people on this site, me included, would suggest that there really isn't any justification they could give that would make this into anything else but a murder of someone we need more of by someone we would be better off without. A lot of posters on this site wouldn't stop to think "what made that pedophile abuse that child", the question you think we are afraid of addressing is much the same.

If the object of the exercise is to stop people sexually abusing children, or at least minimise it its a question you have to ask.

If the object of the excercise is an ignorant rant for the sake of it, then don't

My intuitive reaction when I hear of a bombing is to ask why it happened. Maybe for you it isn't, but I don't think it points to a moral defect on my part

man.about.town

alan85 wrote: »

I agree. It's been clear for a while this was inevitable really. The amount of attempts recently. I think it's terrible for the family and Ireland in general. It is a peace process, is on-going and in so much as any society has its disaffected the North of Ireland will do too. But rather than say these people are nutjobs and unwanted by all why not ask how did it end up at this juncture? What attracted them to do it? What was their thought process and what can we do on the island to stop it?

Distancing yourself makes it worse I think...

i wouldnt want to ask them anything.. to be even associated with these human beings for that brief time that it would take to sit down and ask them why. they are barbarians, inhuman and scum. he could have easily had his kid in the car.

the sickest part of it all, somewhere in ireland, there are groups of people celebrating this, probably clashing drinks together. animals!!!

Wolfe Tone

tbh wrote: »

It's not that. The question above basically asks "how would these murderes justify this murder?" some people on this site, me included, would suggest that there really isn't any justification they could give that would make this into anything else but a murder of someone we need more of by someone we would be better off without. A lot of posters on this site wouldn't stop to think "what made that pedophile abuse that child", the question you think we are afraid of addressing is much the same.

Well I dunno about you but whenever I read or hear about people being killed I always want to know why it happened.