Toilet Bowl design

Walker34

Ok enough is enough......I`v had it with this dam toilet.

My toilet gets blocked all the time and its only 2 years old and the problem has been there from the first week it was used. My diagnosis is that material does not even get past the first bend.....ie the throat is too narrow. I suspect the builder as having bought the cheapest model available hence the restricted orifice. I asked in Chadwick`s a few weeks ago and the shop guy just dismissed me with the "Naah they are all the same....get out line"........no they are not!

So my question is........Which model bowl has the largest least restrictive bend.

stephendevlin

How can you be so certain is the toilet? More info please.

I sell toilets. I have never had this problem in 6 years. (not to say it can never happen)

I've had problems with drains before. Not a nice thing to sort.

How did you get it fixed?

Walker34

because its at the bowl exit point that blockages occur. I have 3 toilets in the house and this one is obviously smaller than the others. trust me Iv had my hand down there often enough to know. This one is 18" overall height and 8" exit height where it goes into the multiwick.

phelixoflaherty

4" pipe 6" ****e

stephendevlin

Walker34 wrote: »

because its at the bowl exit point that blockages occur. I have 3 toilets in the house and this one is obviously smaller than the others. trust me Iv had my hand down there often enough to know. This one is 18" overall height and 8" exit height where it goes into the multiwick.

You'd be safe enough with Ideal Standard or Shires.

Make sure the water connections are near to where the existing one is and go for the same type of toilet. either closed coupled or low level.

Without looking at it its hard to comment. 9/10 times its usually installation issues but I hear what your saying.

stephendevlin

http://www.inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Toilet_Slow_Flush.htm

Here's some good explinations

Could be another issue relating to your problem

Walker34

phelixoflaherty wrote: »

4" pipe 6" ****e

It measures 6" on the o.d. so is possibly 4 on the i.d......hard to say without removing the bowl. Material seems to lodge at the base of the bowl and block it there hence the question about different size throats. I used work with the facilities folks back in the day and they used rotate the dreaded "BT" detail. Designer furniture can have its drawbacks.

Joey the lips

its not the bend. Thats why the sales man looked at you. The only way these give problem is if the cistern is not filling enough to flush away or if too high quality toilet roll is used.

Feel free to buy a new toilet if you doubt this though

Walker34

Joey the lips wrote: »

its not the bend. Thats why the sales man looked at you. The only way these give problem is if the cistern is not filling enough to flush away or if too high quality toilet roll is used.

Feel free to buy a new toilet if you doubt this though

Nothing got to do with it.......I got a 2" boundary installed around the same time and it fills the cistern in under 50 seconds.....full. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck......its probably a duck. I trust my hand as a gauge of the restriction there and it defiantly is tighter than the others.

Joey the lips

Walker34 wrote: »

Nothing got to do with it.......I got a 2" boundary installed around the same time and it fills the cistern in under 50 seconds.....full. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck......its probably a duck. I trust my hand as a gauge of the restriction there and it defiantly is tighter than the others.

If it quacks like a door does not apply. I think your right. You need a new toilet. I cannot answer your question though. Its the first time its ever been asked of me.

Having said that.I would imagine though the bends are prity standard because if the flow was less or the hole longer of less resitriced the water level would be lower.

imo the only reason a cheap toilet fails is high pressure fittings. I have never seen one fail because of your problem.

Walker34

Thanks for the replies folks.....your input is appreciated.

Outkast_IRE

It could always be a manufacturing defect or f**k up , i have come across some of the cheapest bowels on sale and i find that defects do occue a slight bit more in them .
Only last week i took out a bowl that had a pinhole in it under where the cistern sits on a close coupled toilet , another had a pinhole in the water trap area of the bowel and dripped constantly from it . These two were in the same estate where the cheapest bowels they could find imo were installed .