Scam Alert! Be my personal army?

NoQuarter

Good evening all!

So this evening the mother phoned me to tell me that she thinks she has been scammed!

Last week she found some benidorm apartment in a newspaper and got in touch with this guy:

Stephen Morgan

Morgan Drilling
Unit B JFK Industrial Estate,
Naas Road,
Dublin 12,
Ireland.

Tel:01-4433687
Fax:01-4433687
Mob:085-8468107
Web: www.morgandrilling.com


So, today while browsing DoneDeal, some woman had posted this ad: http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/overseas/2027913 indicating she had been scammed! Sure enough, the mobile and landline numbers are off/go to voicemail, the website goes to its hosting company.

He e-mailed us the apartment pictures from morgandrilling@gmail.com

So my mother and father being the not so tech savvy folks they are put cash into the guys bank account number! Duh!


So anyways, is there any way from all that info I can find out anything about this guy assuming everything there is false?? Would his real I.P address be anywhere perhaps?? So I could ring his ISP? I tried ring meteor for the mobile number but they had no details on him!

The poor mother is down 450 smackers!! Lesson learned!

Thanks all!

squod

Locked.















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You'd have to be to fall for that one.

Sonics2k

Call the Gardai?

Joekers

Il help ya but its gona cost ya..... bout 450 smackers

Kristopherus

Why are you posting this in After Hours? You'll probably get some daft answers. Ask a Mod to transfer it to Consumer Issues.

darragh16

Get new parents?

NoQuarter

Reported it to the Garda and yes, parents will be parents!

I'm hoping that somewhere between all the sh1t unfunny answers such as the ones above, someone will actually have a decent answer! Also, never thought about Consumer Issues!

MrStuffins

Stu, if you give me the details of the apartment etc. i can grab the tram to Benidorm and check it out for you over the weekend. I'm just up the road. Although that probably wont help get the cash back

Saila

I will join your army, where do I sign up

Blackdragon

As has already been said, Garda would be the best place to go.

hondasam

OP that is unfortunate and hard luck for your parents. report it and hopefully it will not happen to anyone else.

Ev84

How did your parents transfer the money to his/her bank account? If they have the account number surely this is enough to trace this "stephen"?

Coriolanus

I live in the Wicklow mountains and know my way around a shovel, so put me in the grave digging and evidence disposal group.

NoQuarter

Saila wrote: »

I will join your army, where do I sign up

On the dotted line sir!! You are going to Infantry!!

Ev84 wrote: »

How did your parents transfer the money to his/her bank account? If they have the account number surely this is enough to trace this "stephen"?

They went into the bank apparently and ad the account number and sort code, the info s with the Garda now.



I was kind of hoping to build an army and administer some vigilante justice before the guards get there though!!

demixed

website was registered by:

Arvish Mungur
7 Shrubbery Road
London, N9 0PA
United Kingdom
Phone: +44.2088033006

Email: akmungur@gmail.com

Might be the guy...or might just be the guy who bulit the website

fionny

Just tell them go to the bank and ask them to reverse the payment as it was a scam... the bank will do it in all likelihood... people make mistakes all the time.

NoQuarter

demixed wrote: »

website was registered by:

Arvish Mungur
7 Shrubbery Road
London, N9 0PA
United Kingdom
Phone: +44.2088033006

Email: akmungur@gmail.com

Might be the guy...or might just be the guy who bulit the website

Thanks! And THIS is why I poster in AH!

dubtom

I'm amazed and astonished that people still go to Benidorm on holidays.

Saila

NoQuarter wrote: »

On the dotted line sir!! You are going to Infantry!!

done I call president of any islands we have to invade en route

El Weirdo

Give his details to 4chan.

NoQuarter

El Weirdo wrote: »

Give his details to 4chan.

I honestly considered it before I posted it here!

KungPao

http://www.peopleperhour.com/freelancers/arvish_mungur/portfolio/experienced_php_javascript_and_net_dev/136985#tabs=1&pitem=83781

Interesting!

http://files3.peopleperhour.com/uploads/portfolioItems/Portfolio-136985-portfolio4.jpg

sdanseo

Could be worse, they could have been buying, not renting

MrStuffins

El Weirdo wrote: »

Give his details to 4chan.

This!

ElaElaElano

There's no registered business called Morgan Drilling on solocheck, if you google maps streetview right into the JFK Industrial Estate there's no trace of it, and actually the only trace of it anywhere on the internet is a goldenpages.ie listing, and all that provides is the mobile number- the one that goes straight to voicemail.

That guy, Arvish Mungur obviously knows his web design onions, but look at the description in the screenshot. It says "production wells and pump testing for a variety of projects throughout Ireland" and "we employ state-of-the-art technology and equipment". If any of that was true, they'd be traceable. And they'd certainly have (a) A landline contact number and (b) not a gmail address for correspondence.

If you delve deeper, Mr. Mungur has a website called "Moove Insurance" in his portfolio- a company that's legitimate- but go onto their website and it says their site was designed by a company called "This is Chemistry"- go onto their website and you can see their entire team- no sign of Arvish Mungur.

NoQuarter

ElaElaElano wrote: »

There's no registered business called Morgan Drilling on solocheck, if you google maps streetview right into the JFK Industrial Estate there's no trace of it, and actually the only trace of it anywhere on the internet is a goldenpages.ie listing, and all that provides is the mobile number- the one that goes straight to voicemail.

That guy, Arvish Mungur obviously knows his web design onions, but look at the description in the screenshot. It says "production wells and pump testing for a variety of projects throughout Ireland" and "we employ state-of-the-art technology and equipment". If any of that was true, they'd be traceable. And they'd certainly have (a) A landline contact number and (b) not a gmail address for correspondence.

If you delve deeper, Mr. Mungur has a website called "Moove Insurance" in his portfolio- a company that's legitimate- but go onto their website and it says their site was designed by a company called "This is Chemistry"- go onto their website and you can see their entire team- no sign of Arvish Mungur.

You're good! I might ring this Arvish guy tomorrow and see what happens! Although it looks like you can ask him to design your site through that website so no contact would have taken place between the scammer and the website developer!

Is there a way to get an IP address from Gmail?? Also, I googled the scammers mobile number mobile number and he has ads in the buy & sell too, I wonder if they would have his details on file!?

zuroph

lads, seriously, the mrogan drilling may have nothing to do with the scammer, since he mailed from a gmail account.

post his bank account details.

Numb.Muzik

tell teacher

General General

ElaElaElano wrote: »

There's no registered business called Morgan Drilling on solocheck, if you google maps streetview right into the JFK Industrial Estate there's no trace of it, and actually the only trace of it anywhere on the internet is a goldenpages.ie listing, and all that provides is the mobile number- the one that goes straight to voicemail.

That guy, Arvish Mungur obviously knows his web design onions, but look at the description in the screenshot. It says "production wells and pump testing for a variety of projects throughout Ireland" and "we employ state-of-the-art technology and equipment". If any of that was true, they'd be traceable. And they'd certainly have (a) A landline contact number and (b) not a gmail address for correspondence.

If you delve deeper, Mr. Mungur has a website called "Moove Insurance" in his portfolio- a company that's legitimate- but go onto their website and it says their site was designed by a company called "This is Chemistry"- go onto their website and you can see their entire team- no sign of Arvish Mungur.

You're like something off House MD... or Numb3rs... ruined it there for ya with that second comparison, didn't I?

General General

NoQuarter wrote: »

You're good! I might ring this Arvish guy tomorrow and see what happens! Although it looks like you can ask him to design your site through that website so no contact would have taken place between the scammer and the website developer!

Is there a way to get an IP address from Gmail?? Also, I googled the scammers mobile number mobile number and he has ads in the buy & sell too, I wonder if they would have his details on file!?

Offer to buy something off him but say that you can only pay cash... arrange a face to face meeting & then, when you are sure you've made a positive identification, hunt him down like one of those guys off Predators...

El Weirdo

NoQuarter wrote: »

Is there a way to get an IP address from Gmail??

http://aruljohn.com/info/howtofindipaddress/

ElaElaElano

General General wrote: »

You're like something off House MD... or Numb3rs... ruined it there for ya with that second comparison, didn't I?

Hughlaurious.

NoQuarter

El Weirdo wrote: »

http://aruljohn.com/info/howtofindipaddress/

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So they are the only IP's in the header, are any of them Google itself or am I looking at the scammers IP? Is there a way of finding out the ISP from this??

NoQuarter

Ah so the top one is Google, the other two it says are private IP's?

ElaElaElano

He could be hosting it through a proxy server though anyway, if he's scamming people and has any kind of a brain he will be doing that to protect himself- basically that's to say his IP would be run through somewhere else. As a simple example, if I *hypothetically* wanted to go and download music off thepiratebay, I'd use a proxy server so that it's not traceable back to my true location.

What's pretty clear from trawling through google is that Morgan Drilling doesn't and never did exist as a business. So as a very first step you can rule out the idea that it was someone attempting to present themselves as an employee of that company- because they don't exist. The whole 'Morgan Drilling' thing is, for one reason or another, a complete and utter fabrication.

Pdfile

post his picture on 4chan, the example picture, offer somewhere in the region of 8999 to 9001 internet dollars and a quick shift as a reward.

Gerty

ElaElaElano wrote: »

There's no registered business called Morgan Drilling on solocheck, if you google maps streetview right into the JFK Industrial Estate there's no trace of it, and actually the only trace of it anywhere on the internet is a goldenpages.ie listing, and all that provides is the mobile number- the one that goes straight to voicemail.

That guy, Arvish Mungur obviously knows his web design onions, but look at the description in the screenshot. It says "production wells and pump testing for a variety of projects throughout Ireland" and "we employ state-of-the-art technology and equipment". If any of that was true, they'd be traceable. And they'd certainly have (a) A landline contact number and (b) not a gmail address for correspondence.

If you delve deeper, Mr. Mungur has a website called "Moove Insurance" in his portfolio- a company that's legitimate- but go onto their website and it says their site was designed by a company called "This is Chemistry"- go onto their website and you can see their entire team- no sign of Arvish Mungur.

With just that line, i can instantly imagine you as one of the technicians on crap crime shows filling in the exposition that will link it all together. You people do exist!

ElaElaElano

Gerty wrote: »

With just that line, i can instantly imagine you as one of the technicians on crap crime shows filling in the exposition that will link it all together. You people do exist!

It's a nice thought but the true techy people would laugh uncontrollably at my lack of know-how, but then 'normal people' think I'm a bit of a nerd. Rock and a hard place. Now I know what it's like to be a bisexual half-cast woman in America in the 1950s.

Mojacar for Me

Scammers give EVERY legitimated person trying to make a living a bad name. If I rent a person an apartment I am very lucky if they tell one friend and I get a rent off it. If one person rents a place and is not 1000% happy I am sure a hundred will know it. In the case of the family who have just been scammed what is the chances of that person ever renting a place from a small advert again, none...........why...because of some stupid twat wanted to make a quick buck and he has ucked it up for 1000 other people. THANKS who ever you are, hope you choke on the money.

UglyBolloxFace

NoQuarter wrote: »

Good evening all!

So this evening the mother phoned me to tell me that she thinks she has been scammed!

Last week she found some benidorm apartment in a newspaper and got in touch with this guy:

Stephen Morgan

Morgan Drilling
Unit B JFK Industrial Estate,
Naas Road,
Dublin 12,
Ireland.

Tel:01-4433687
Fax:01-4433687
Mob:085-8468107
Web: www.morgandrilling.com


So, today while browsing DoneDeal, some woman had posted this ad: http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/overseas/2027913 indicating she had been scammed! Sure enough, the mobile and landline numbers are off/go to voicemail, the website goes to its hosting company.

He e-mailed us the apartment pictures from morgandrilling@gmail.com

So my mother and father being the not so tech savvy folks they are put cash into the guys bank account number! Duh!


So anyways, is there any way from all that info I can find out anything about this guy assuming everything there is false?? Would his real I.P address be anywhere perhaps?? So I could ring his ISP? I tried ring meteor for the mobile number but they had no details on him!

The poor mother is down 450 smackers!! Lesson learned!

Thanks all!

First of all, very sorry to hear about this happening to your parents...these scammers are scum.

Anyway, onto the important stuff: someone who isn't me has managed to gain access to that Morgandrilling gmail account. Someone who isn't me is logged into the account right now. Someone who isn't me could obtain screenshots and I could upload them to show you guys.

Someone who isn't me has also found the IP address of when that person last logged in - the IP is from Amsterdam.

What should we do with this info?

P.S. is it illegal to hack into a Gmail account by way of guessing the security question? Someone who isn't me wants to know.