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1,200 biomedical jobs in Ireland 'unfilled'

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  • Posts: 23,497 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Most good companies will adjust wages to ability quickly enough to avoid losing a valuable employee once you have proven yourself.

    They like playing hard ball though :), back in 2004 I was working in a large plant for two years and had proven myself to an extent, I had worked successfully on a project and was lead for the next one. Other lads on the team who I knew had come in on significantly higher salary were not in lead roles. My direct supervisor entertained my request for a pay rise but HR wouldn't play ball. So I left, when I handed in my notice the department manager said he'd sort out the payrise to avoid losing me. Too late.

    Years on I still see other folks in the same position, now in the current climate folks are slow to leave permanent positions and most good companies are all too aware of this and are quite happy not to adjust the wages according to folks abilities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,235 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Folks with construction experience aren't ideal matches for pharma and med device companies, they would have next to no idea of GMP, validation etc.
    I know what you mean, but there are plenty of people from construction, oil and many other industries who work in the pharma sector, not too sure about medical devices. Most people involved in Validation and Quality would have a science backgound/qualificaton or have the neccesary training.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Folks with construction experience aren't ideal matches for pharma and med device companies, they would have next to no idea of GMP, validation etc.

    They're not ideal but they shouldn't have a problem learning what's necessary to do jobs in those companies. The obvious thing is for companies to do is hire people and train them if they can't get people who meet their exacting requirements. If they're not prepared to do that with 1200 jobs unfilled you have to question wtf they're thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Irish_Elect_Eng


    flash1080 wrote: »
    They're not ideal but they shouldn't have a problem learning what's necessary to do jobs in those companies. The obvious thing is for companies to do is hire people and train them if they can't get people who meet their exacting requirements. If they're not prepared to do that with 1200 jobs unfilled you have to question wtf they're thinking.


    The jobs that are being referenced are "high technology" jobs, which by definition require the appropriate qualifications. This is enforced by the US FDA (Food and Drugs Administration) each company has to prove that their workers have the appropriate qualifications for their role.

    The sad news is that when there are enough unfilled roles what the company will start to think is, where can I move to, to fill these jobs. That usually means the B.R.I.C.S. countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China & South Africa...etc.

    Government policy on education is failing the industries that can pull us out of recession, back in the eighties, the government educated people for jobs that did not exist yet and it was a success allowing a lot of inward investment. We need to start the process all over again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    The jobs that are being referenced are "high technology" jobs, which by definition require the appropriate qualifications. This is enforced by the US FDA (Food and Drugs Administration) each company has to prove that their workers have the appropriate qualifications for their role.

    The sad news is that when there are enough unfilled roles what the company will start to think is, where can I move to, to fill these jobs. That usually means the B.R.I.C.S. countries, Brazil, Russia, India, China & South Africa...etc.

    Government policy on education is failing the industries that can pull us out of recession, back in the eighties, the government educated people for jobs that did not exist yet and it was a success allowing a lot of inward investment. We need to start the process all over again.

    These companies have to train people if they want people, they simply won't get anyone "ready-made" to their exacting requirements. Some of them are so extreme that they want people to study/train in a way in which they will be of no use to any other company than themselves, they are completely clueless in this regard. There's also a few who have completely shot themselves in the foot by only deciding now that they want to hire fresh grads, because at this stage people have been (or will soon be) offered jobs, so the potential pool of talent has been hugely drained. Absolutely clueless.


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