MISLEADING SALE?????

faw1tytowers

So due to a sudden dip in my funds I couldnt buy the car I had planned to buy during the week and needed a car asap. At the time there was a car advertised an hour from me and so I though this would be ideal rather than trekking across the country. It was top end of my budget now @ 3,000 The ad had 2 pics of what looked like a well kept 2003 scenic with 49,000miles, TAX until 7/11, 1 owner from new.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2012552

1. I rang the seller and asked for any dents or scruffs he said perfect condition, like new, first to see will buy. I got there and both sides of the bumper are scratched and repainted but not sanded down. One side has actually a dent (neighbour hit car at school car park apparently) the dent is on the plastic side panel and instead of unpoping the dent they tried to melt it with a blow torch?? OK so alarm bells should of rang when he said this as I had the same thing happen to my other scenic and knew it was an easy fix. Its nothing serious just vanity on my part is this is as new a car I will get for another 3 years or so. He was not letting down on price at all for this as he said the car was priced well.

2. The Tax was in fact out as of TODAY. On going to see the car it was of the thinking well that will save me 150 euro anyway.

3. The interior is valeted but the suede not cleaned appropriately as it bubbled a bit. So I would consider this a scruff too.

4. I asked had it a FSH as 49,000 was low. He said he had and all the paperwork. I could see the service book in photo so I was pleased with this. He said it was bought new from Renault garage. On inspection of book after sale (my bad) I see it is stamped once in 2005 @29,000. I rang th e garage who has no history of car and were no the original sellers.

5. 1 owner - not true as he bought it apparently from his friend a dealer who told him about hte car when it got traded in and said it was such a good buy. SO he bought it for his friends daughter apparently as tey had recently become unemployed and were on hard time. they emigrated in the new year and he was left with it then to sell it. However this is probably ollegal it is still logged in name of first person. I have taxed the car and log book sent off but it all keeps going around in my head.

Have I been screwed or should I count my chickens that it could of been alot worse.

The car is in good nick and appears to be mechanically sound with a new NCT. Again I asked for 200 off the asking price as I would soon have to replace the TB as I will do the mileage in no time and am off to France in June. Still no budge.

I told him I wouldn't buy it at that price and finally I just settled with a tank of petrol so 60 euro off.

I am pleased with the purchase but mad too. And think I may of paid slightly over the odds only had I realised there was no FSH I probably would of walked. I had planned on buying the exception 2006 model and it was gorgeous and a dealer and FSH ect. So it was hard having to suddenly buy an older model and have less money. I had to rethink it all that look I am buying an 8 year old car - what do I expect. But infact I should of stuck by my guns.

So I have car booked for 25 point check at Renault as it is free currently to see is it as well kept as he implied. I do feel it is but I have no idea when next service is due ect until I do this check.

Other than walk away what would you do in this situation. I can tell you if anything bad shows up Monday I will be ringing hi back asap.

brianrcarney

sounds like a typical way the part time second hand dealers sell cars... promise you everything and deliver f'all....


i hope anyway it turns out a good buy for ya anyway mate! positive thinking and all that

v240gltse

hi

sorry for your troubles BUT you still BOUGHT :eek: :eek: it despite the fact that

1. the condition was not as stated

2. the tax was not as stated

3. the service history was not as stated

4. query over the number of owners

and can i assume that this was a private sale and if so you'll have NO comeback

the very best of luck getting anything back

ArphaRima

I think you're mad to buy anything when you have doubts.

If there is any doubt there is no doubt.

faw1tytowers

v240gltse wrote: »

hi

sorry for your troubles BUT you still BOUGHT :eek: :eek: it despite the fact that

1. the condition was not as stated

2. the tax was not as stated

3. the service history was not as stated

4. query over the number of owners

and can i assume that this was a private sale and if so you'll have NO comeback

the very best of luck getting anything back

I know dont remind me! I am pretty confident the car is sound. The scrapes and scruffs are minor its just I am really particular and plus I would never of viewed the car knowing it had scratch/dent on bumper. I was in a rush to buy and I didnt want the trip to be a waste of time. But now I am regretting not walking away. He was not going to budge on price and in my mind the car was really 3,850 as tax was in it. And I had hoped to get him to 3,700, once I saw the dent I wanted it fr 2,500 in all honesty but I didnt persist as I knew he wasnt going to drop it. I bought it in haste. I am just hoping that the car will still be a good one. the only thing keeping me sane is that all the parts are original all the bits and bobs are with it and it does appear to be well cared for. Monday will tell more.

faw1tytowers

fluffer wrote: »

I think you're mad to buy anything when you have doubts.

If there is any doubt there is no doubt.

You are so right, I know! Never done this before in all my years. I buy cars regularly. I usually have the checks done before the money changes hand. This was a real last minute thing. I have learned the lesson. Lets hope I dont end up paying for it too!

bijapos

faw1tytowers wrote: »

.......................in all honesty but I didnt persist as I knew he wasnt going to drop it. I bought it in haste. I am just hoping that the car will still be a good one. the only thing keeping me sane is that all the parts are original all the bits and bobs are with it and it does appear to be well cared for. Monday will tell more.

^Thats your answer. I doubt you'll get anything off him as no matter what was in the ad you wer told on the spot about the issues.

I have an 01 of these, 115,000 km on the clock and flew through the NCT in February. Never had a breakdown either. They are a good car, probably more reliable and cheaper than the 06 in the long run so just try to enjoy it and consider it a lesson learnt for the next time.

Well wear either way.





BTW. Just noticed your username, you could also try this, the colour is almost the same, the Scenic is scratched so it doesn't matter and it might help to get rid of some built up stress.

faw1tytowers

bijapos wrote: »

^Thats your answer. I doubt you'll get anything off him as no matter what was in the ad you wer told on the spot about the issues.

I have an 01 of these, 115,000 km on the clock and flew through the NCT in February. Never had a breakdown either. They are a good car, probably more reliable and cheaper than the 06 in the long run so just try to enjoy it and consider it a lesson learnt for the next time.

Well wear either way.





BTW. Just noticed your username, you could also try this, the colour is almost the same, the Scenic is scratched so it doesn't matter and it might help to get rid of some built up stress.

yeah i had a 98 before hand with 150,000 so i love them. No issues.

I am confident but frustrated with myself.

LOL I think that is exactly what I need to do to de-stress myself. Good ole Basil! Cheers for the idea :P

dr.fuzzenstein

If that happened to me I would pull out a bundle of cash, show it to him and say "here is the exact asking price of your car. However, since this bears no resemblance to the car you advertised and is not what I am looking for, I will be keeping this. I'm only sorry I can't charge you money for wasting my time and hope you will be sitting on this lemon for a long time to come. Good day to you sir."
But by buying it you keep cowboys like that in business.
Never EVER buy a car that is not as described or where anything seems fishy.
Especially anything French, where any of the many faults you can expect will be time consuming and likely cost a fortune to put right.
Promise me to only buy cars that match their description from now on!

ArphaRima

Promise me to only buy cars that match their description from now on!

This pleases me greatly.. Promise us all you wont do this again!

I think you know yourself that you shouldnt have. If even for the few nervous days until you know whether or not you have a lemon on your hands.

faw1tytowers

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

If that happened to me I would pull out a bundle of cash, show it to him and say "here is the exact asking price of your car. However, since this bears no resemblance to the car you advertised and is not what I am looking for, I will be keeping this. I'm only sorry I can't charge you money for wasting my time and hope you will be sitting on this lemon for a long time to come. Good day to you sir."
But by buying it you keep cowboys like that in business.
Never EVER buy a car that is not as described or where anything seems fishy.
Especially anything French, where any of the many faults you can expect will be time consuming and likely cost a fortune to put right.
Promise me to only buy cars that match their description from now on!

This would be the more normal me. But I have been searching for weeks and finally found the one I loved and was all above board only to have a sudden thud to my wallet and whatever happened I had to buy this week. I went out in the total wrong frame of mind. I allowed myself to be sweet talked - I feel so wronged but it was all my own fault. This is after all the game of car sales and I forfeited.

Big Nasty

Oh come off it lads, how often do you see an 8 year old car in 'perfect' condition or even 'exactly' as described in an ad? Never went to see a car with slightly more mileage, the odd scuff, etc that wasn't mentioned? Not good enough I know, but we're all guilty of putting a car for sale in the best light possible and maybe even exagerating a little in relation to its condition.

OP saw car, liked it enough to buy it, and is a little disappointed as condition is not exactly as described. Yeah, I would be disappointed too but it's not as if he / she bought a heap, just a little cosmetic damage.

My only comment is on the price OP, I'm sure if you had waived 10-15% less under his nose he would have taken it.

Best of luck with it!

faw1tytowers

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Oh come off it lads, how often do you see an 8 year old car in 'perfect' condition or even 'exactly' as described in an ad? Never went to see a car with slightly more mileage, the odd scuff, etc that wasn't mentioned? Not good enough I know, but we're all guilty of putting a car for sale in the best light possible and maybe even exagerating a little in relation to its condition.

OP saw car, liked it enough to buy it, and is a little disappointed as condition is
is not exactly as described. Yeah, I would be disappointed too but it's not as if he / she bought a heap, just a little cosmetic damage.

My only comment is on the price OP, I'm sure if you had waived 10-15% less under his nose he would have taken it.

Best of luck with it!

Yeah I had intended to sort the cash at 2,700 but never did in the end... Schoolboy(girl) error for sure. He was adamant he had more coming to see following day but in high in sight they would of had same issues as me. And infact 2 of them were local enough and so would of walked easier. At the back of my head was going around if I dont buy this car today I will be
getting a bus to the next sale. But absolutely for an 8 year old this car is pretty good!

dr.fuzzenstein

faw1tytowers wrote: »

This would be the more normal me. But I have been searching for weeks and finally found the one I loved and was all above board only to have a sudden thud to my wallet and whatever happened I had to buy this week. I went out in the total wrong frame of mind. I allowed myself to be sweet talked - I feel so wronged but it was all my own fault. This is after all the game of car sales and I forfeited.

No worries, we have all bought cars that weren't perfect, I know I have as my younger (and dumber) self.;)
I shudder at the thought of that Merc I bought....(it's too horrible to tell what was wrong with it)

faw1tytowers

fluffer wrote: »

This pleases me greatly.. Promise us all you wont do this again!

I think you know yourself that you shouldnt have. If even for the few nervous days until you know whether or not you have a lemon on your hands.

LOL I do hereby swear Fluffer!

faw1tytowers

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

No worries, we have all bought cars that weren't perfect, I know I have as my younger (and dumber) self.;)
I shudder at the thought of that Merc I bought....(it's too horrible to tell what was wrong with it)

Lol yup we all have that story!

colm_mcm

Am I the only one thinking thats bonkers money for an 8 year old Scenic?

-Chris-

faw1tytowers wrote: »

I can tell you if anything bad shows up Monday I will be ringing hi back asap.

Don't bother. You bought it in a private sale (as far as we can tell) and he has no obligation towards you.
Calling him and being told to "f off" will just make the car buying experience an (even more) unpleasant experience.

I think your dealings with him are over.


Get the check done, get whatever you need fixed, fixed. If the check turns up anything properly illegal/dodgy, update us here and someone should have an idea how you can chase him for it.

faw1tytowers

colm_mcm wrote: »

Am I the only one thinking thats bonkers money for an 8 year old Scenic?

They go anything from 2,000 - 4,000. Though I would never of considered spending more than 3,000 on a 03 TBH mine should of been a bit cheaper considering it was not what it said it was. But otherwise money well spent for me, low mileage and good condition. You either love them or hate them and I love them they do everything you want a mpv to do and more.

faw1tytowers

-Chris- wrote: »

Don't bother. You bought it in a private sale (as far as we can tell) and he has no obligation towards you.
Calling him and being told to "f off" will just make the car buying experience an (even more) unpleasant experience.

I think your dealings with him are over.


Get the check done, get whatever you need fixed, fixed. If the check turns up anything properly illegal/dodgy, update us here and someone should have an idea how you can chase him for it.

I think I would in hope he is a decent man just write a letter with the details of what money I have to spend on car. But in all honesty it passed nct last week and from the little I know about cars everything is sound on the car. I would say it was well kept and serviced but not by main dealer, more like his main dealer friend in his own garage...

faw1tytowers

€1,100 is bill Renault gave me after doing a 25 point check :eek:
My garage will fo it for 800 so I still
Timing belt
Anti rolling brushes
new wipers that they say are noisy - I hadnt noticed?
They say 4 new tyres my garage say 2
Oil seems clear but may as well do a full service for peace of mind
Renault said oil and coolant low but my garage pointed out it was near max.
Rear indicator lights faded

So I need to go to my mechanic again now and see what is the most important to get done now as this will now start taking my holiday money, france in June via ferry!

So I have sent a letter with the bill I got. I probably will not hear back I know. But this guy has ruined my families first ever holiday. He guaranteed by his word the car would not need any work done on it. I agreed to do timing belt and pay him his money on this gaurentee. $%*k him!

Rant over.

Reloc8

Is this person a private seller ?

If so you have no realistic comeback against him whatsoever.


In any event, you're doing a full service at your own option (sensible choice), the wipers don't bother you so that's an elective job that you are choosing as opposed to forced to do, your garage is saying oil and coolant are fine, you are again choosing to do the oil change for your own peace of mind (again sensible enough).

So the required work to the car seems to involve the anti-rolling bushes and a couple of new tires together with replace rear indicator bulbs ?

(its been said already but you did take this car despite issues which were obvious to you so again you have little objective grounds to complain).

db

That 25-point check by Renault sounds like a marketing ploy, like getting a free eye test in Specsavers.

You planned to do the timing belt anyway, it's just been through the NCT so the suspension should be OK and they would not have passed you if the tyres needed replacing immediately. It doesn't sound like there is much more to be done to it than you expected.

Oil and coolant are the easiest things to check yourself in the engine so you should be able to tell if they are low or the Renault garage is just trying it on.

stevenmu

You could try googling this guys phone number, it could turn out that he is actually a dealer doing a sneaky sale on the side. The spiel he gave about he came by it sounds suspicious at least. If he is a dealer you may have some form of comeback.

Though really the bushes and worn tyres seem to be the onyl things wrong? (you seem to have already known on purchase that it needed timing belt)

Mr.Boots

faw1tytowers wrote: »

€1,100 is bill Renault gave me after doing a 25 point check :eek:
My garage will fo it for 800 so I still
Timing belt
Anti rolling brushes
new wipers that they say are noisy - I hadnt noticed?
They say 4 new tyres my garage say 2
Oil seems clear but may as well do a full service for peace of mind
Renault said oil and coolant low but my garage pointed out it was near max.
Rear indicator lights faded

So I need to go to my mechanic again now and see what is the most important to get done now as this will now start taking my holiday money, france in June via ferry!

So I have sent a letter with the bill I got. I probably will not hear back I know. But this guy has ruined my families first ever holiday. He guaranteed by his word the car would not need any work done on it. I agreed to do timing belt and pay him his money on this gaurentee. $%*k him!

Rant over.

Fly to France, its cheaper, easier and if you book in adavnce car hire is dirt cheap.
Ferry is mad money unless you wanna bring the kitchen sink with you.
Good luck with the car...it dosnt sound to bad....normal enough for an oldish car for 3grand to have a few issues.

faw1tytowers

Mr.Boots wrote: »

Fly to France, its cheaper, easier and if you book in adavnce car hire is dirt cheap.
Ferry is mad money unless you wanna bring the kitchen sink with you.
Good luck with the car...it dosnt sound to bad....normal enough for an oldish car for 3grand to have a few issues.

I got ferry for 300 euro for whole family doubt i will get better than that. We camping, was cheapest way I found. Total holiday cost 580 with campsite (2weeks all facilities).

Ya I agree with everyone I knew issues. Should of priced belt beforehand and checked the car history was genuine a simple call to renault beforehand rather than after. I just hate people who give false info and pure BS at the expensive of others. It could of been alot worse.

grudgebringer

faw1tytowers wrote: »

Yeah I had intended to sort the cash at 2,700 but never did in the end... Schoolboy(girl) error for sure. He was adamant he had more coming to see following day but in high in sight they would of had same issues as me. And infact 2 of them were local enough and so would of walked easier. At the back of my head was going around if I dont buy this car today I will be
getting a bus to the next sale. But absolutely for an 8 year old this car is pretty good!

The guy you bought it off wasn't called Joe and he wasn't in Dundrum area was he??

Seth Brundle

Thread retitled with question marks to remove any potential for libel (not sure if there was but just to be overly cautious)

Top Dog

faw1tytowers wrote: »

€1,100 is bill Renault gave me after doing a 25 point check :eek:
My garage will fo it for 800 so I still
Timing belt
Anti rolling brushes
new wipers that they say are noisy - I hadnt noticed?
They say 4 new tyres my garage say 2
Oil seems clear but may as well do a full service for peace of mind
Renault said oil and coolant low but my garage pointed out it was near max.
Rear indicator lights faded

I'm wondering if the Renault garage aren't taking the mick with the above list. All the highlighted parts would/should have been spotted in the NCT which you say was only a few weeks ago.

faw1tytowers

Top Dog wrote: »

I'm wondering if the Renault garage aren't taking the mick with the above list. All the highlighted parts would/should have been spotted in the NCT which you say was only a few weeks ago.

I think they totally took the mick.... which is why i hope my mechanic will decided things dont need doing. Yes nct was done 3 weeks ago now.

faw1tytowers

grudgebringer wrote: »

The guy you bought it off wasn't called Joe and he wasn't in Dundrum area was he??

Nope

faw1tytowers

kbannon wrote: »

Thread retitled with question marks to remove any potential for libel (not sure if there was but just to be overly cautious)

ok. But have not mentioned names or details so should be grand. But it was for sure a misleading sale.

-The car was not bought at garage or serviced at garage he said it was done at.
-It did not have FSH.
-The car was not taxed for 6 months as advertised.
-The car does need repairs that he guaranteed it would after being checked by 2 different mechanics.

-Chris-

With all due respect, you knew most of that before you bought and you had doubts about the car, but you bought the car anyway.

I think, in the end, you misled yourself.

I hope you move on from this and get on with enjoying the car.

faw1tytowers

-Chris- wrote: »

With all due respect, you knew most of that before you bought and you had doubts about the car, but you bought the car anyway.

I think, in the end, you misled yourself.

I hope you move on from this and get on with enjoying the car.

?No? I found this all our after buying car obviously. The only thing I knew is I had TB to do. And I was not happy with the car having a dent. All I was really looking for was advise on what others would do if this happened to them.The mistake I made was rushing into a buy without doing checks pre-sale and trusting a seller. I will enjoy the car once i find the money to fix it without jepordising my families holiday.

Thank you for your consideration!

Seth Brundle

faw1tytowers wrote: »

ok. But have not mentioned names or details so should be grand. But it was for sure a misleading sale.

-The car was not bought at garage or serviced at garage he said it was done at.
-It did not have FSH.
-The car was not taxed for 6 months as advertised.
-The car does need repairs that he guaranteed it would after being checked by 2 different mechanics.

I'm aware that names weren't mentioned - thanks for not doing so.
However, I and everyone else on here were not there when you had discussions with them and are only hearing one side of a complete story and therefore need to be careful.

Is everything that was promised given to you in writing?

faw1tytowers

kbannon wrote: »

I'm aware that names weren't mentioned - thanks for not doing so.
However, I and everyone else on here were not there when you had discussions with them and are only hearing one side of a complete story and therefore need to be careful.

Is everything that was promised given to you in writing?

He told me about fsh over the phone and later flashed the service book (with one stamp on it as I later discovered) to me. Picture of service book also on advertisement.
The tax is on the advertisement.
And yeah I have only his word that he said car was bought and serviced from new in ***** garage.

So I know its my word against his.

He seemed a very genuine man. So I wrote a letter to him asking him if he could explain why what he had said is not so. He did give me a verbal guarantee that nothing would need doing on car.

I am not looking for a suit here or to slander anyone. Simple what would others do had they made these discoveries. If he lived closer I would probably go back to his house. But I will wait a week in hope of a reply from him. Then I just may have to let it drop. I am jsut heart broken as I had saved money for the car and for a holiday. This bill will take my holiday money. And its left me in a real rut.

Seth Brundle

...so basically you have nothing to show that you were misled?

faw1tytowers

kbannon wrote: »

...so basically you have nothing to show that you were misled?

Ahhhh, I said from the begining I have given the link that is the only written info i have. The rest was verbal. And so yes I have no proof. So floggin a dead dog I know. Just wondered how others would react in this situation.

faw1tytowers

FFS I just was looking on a few boards who reccomend googling the number of the seller. Sure enuf up it comes with another car/jeep same house in background! Furious his story was cock and bullllllll!!!!!!!!! He outright told me he was a retired property developer.. now he just plays golf does NOT sell cars, was doing this as a favour to friend. I wish now I noted original name on log book so I could get there story!

v240gltse

hi

at this point you are only making yourself upset by continuing a lost battle.

As stated previously most of the points are fixable or dont need doing at all as the nct passed them ( renault garage taking the p!ss I think ).

so why not kickback and enjoy the car and look forward to a nice 2 weeks in France and mark it all up to a life expierence !!!!


take care

-Chris-

faw1tytowers wrote: »

FFS I just was looking on a few boards who reccomend googling the number of the seller. Sure enuf up it comes with another car/jeep same house in background! Furious his story was cock and bullllllll!!!!!!!!! He outright told me he was a retired property developer.. now he just plays golf does NOT sell cars, was doing this as a favour to friend. I wish now I noted original name on log book so I could get there story!

It doesn't matter who owned it before.

What you need to do is work out how to establish the fact that he habitually sells cars. If you can prove he sells enough of them (6 a year IIRC) he becomes classified as a trader rather than a private seller and, hey presto you have consumer rights!!

If you can prove he's a trader then he needs to give you a warranty with the car, he needs to be selling as described in the ad (I hope you have this printed off), and afaik you can take him to small claims court for a very reasonable fee if you're not happy.

That's a big step, getting that established!!

keithclancy

faw1tytowers wrote: »

He seemed a very genuine man. So I wrote a letter to him asking him if he could explain why what he had said is not so. He did give me a verbal guarantee that nothing would need doing on car.

The Prince of Azerbooga rang me the other day saying I had won the lottery.

Seemed very Genuine.

faw1tytowers

faw1tytowers wrote: »

€1,100 is bill Renault gave me after doing a 25 point check :eek:
My garage will fo it for 800 so I still
Timing belt
Anti rolling brushes
new wipers that they say are noisy - I hadnt noticed?
They say 4 new tyres my garage say 2
Oil seems clear but may as well do a full service for peace of mind
Renault said oil and coolant low but my garage pointed out it was near max.
Rear indicator lights faded

So I need to go to my mechanic again now and see what is the most important to get done now as this will now start taking my holiday money, france in June via ferry!

So I have sent a letter with the bill I got. I probably will not hear back I know. But this guy has ruined my families first ever holiday. He guaranteed by his word the car would not need any work done on it. I agreed to do timing belt and pay him his money on this gaurentee. $%*k him!

Rant over.

It was NCTd on the 23rd of March, tyres should be legal at worse, indicator bulbs cost tiny money, anti roll bushings are more than likely fine, so too the wipers, wipers are small money too. Timing belt you new about. I don't see the huge panic really.

Admittedly you swallowed the Dell Boy part time trader speel but no harm done really exceot you feel he made a mug of you. You got the car you wanted, it's NCTs and needs a timing belt.

Get the timing belt done, two tires and enjoy your holiday.

alias no.9

Top Dog wrote: »

I'm wondering if the Renault garage aren't taking the mick with the above list. All the highlighted parts would/should have been spotted in the NCT which you say was only a few weeks ago.

It's not unheard of for tyres to be 'borrowed' for the NCT and returned afterwards.

faw1tytowers

On the timing belt subject he told me the belt wouldn't need doing till 80,000 so I was ok with that. The garage said immediately considering I am going abroad with the car and that 60,000 is the recommended time or 5 years. So the belt should of been done by him. He told me it didn't need doing hence I agreed with him and said I would do it end of year as I will have mileage put on it by then.

So again I believe I have the right to feel conned I was not expecting to have to fork out this money just before going to France. And even more annoyed cos as I am currently unemployed it will be coming out of my holiday money which will then become non existent. He knew I would be doing the mileage and going to France. Which is why he gave me his empty guarantee "nothing will need doing on this car."

You bought a car off what you thought was a Joe bloggs private seller and took his word on the timing belt change interval? Only one person to blame if he was misinformed or talking out his arse...

faw1tytowers

RoverJames wrote: »

You bought a car off what you thought was a Joe bloggs private seller and took his word on the timing belt change interval? Only one person to blame if he was misinformed or talking out his arse...

I know, but he was all "my friend the mechanic" and its been to ***** garage since it was bought...... I don't like liars. Especially ones who try to profit on such. If he done me out of 100 euro id still be annoyed its money i don't have. I just put my last penny into the sale.

I am asking you all to put yourself in my shoes. I am a female 29 yrs of age mother of 2 and currently unemployed due to ill health. I booked a holiday cos I desperately needed one and my family deserved one. Now I had x amount of money saved for holiday and also needed to buy a new car as I sold on my own last year. But now this guy makes all these promises and guarantees to me about this car. Silly me to still have trust in humankind but h may as well of been stealing candy from a baby. All I wanted was a sound car that needed nothing done to it or a cheaper car that I could then afford to send to garage. This guy knew what he was at..... And this is whats not right here. Its not right and I dont believe he should be let away with it. Especially now I have found proof he has been selling other cars and is not just a retired man doing his neighbour a favour cos he lost his job and immigrated BS.

You'll have to prove he was selling 6 a year before you have any rights really.

You won't be getting him to cough up for the timing belt anyway so best to get it done if possible and enjoy the holiday if you can

Of course it's not right, the chap is a grade A pr1ck.

faw1tytowers

The other car is on done deal for sale... should I warn others somehow to be wary? Or just leave it. I have decided just to get belt done before I leave for France and worry about the rest as and when I have the money.

delly

I was looking at an '03 Megane recently with mileage at 50k and the seller was adamant that the timing belt didn't need to be done. I explained that based on age it should be done regardless and it wouldn't be worth the risk, so was looking for a few hundred off to cover the job.

Seller didn't budge, I moved on. The seller didn't really care and all he had to do was wait for someone who would be happy with the mileage interval, or even better someone who doesn't even ask about timing belts. You'll have that extra piece of mind once you have it done.

faw1tytowers

faw1tytowers wrote: »

The other car is on done deal for sale... should I warn others somehow to be wary? Or just leave it. I have decided just to get belt done before I leave for France and worry about the rest as and when I have the money.

Don't forget the tyres, have the thread depth measured and if it's much less than 3.0mm you should replace them really in advance of the France trip.