This is the thief who stole my 3 month old bike

John_Mc

Hi,

My 3 month old Lapierre bike was stolen by this man on Monday at midday outside Fresh supermarket in Grand Canal Dock. The image was taken from the CCTV footage given to me by the shop. I will upload more later but this is the clearest shot of him.

He cycled in himself on a yellow racing bike. Although he's wearing a hat in this image, he has a shaved head.

If you know this man, or think you might know him, I'd really appreciate you getting in touch. The stolen bike was a Lapierre Rock, green in colour.

Thanks

Beasty

Sorry, but we cannot allow this image to be posted as we have no evidence directly linking the individual involved with the stolen bike

I would suggest you take this to the Gardai

Thanks

Beasty

John_Mc

Beasty wrote: »

Sorry, but we cannot allow this image to be posted as we have no evidence directly linking the individual involved with the stolen bike

I would suggest you take this to the Gardai

Thanks

Beasty

I have taken it to the Gardai and am waiting for them to do something about it.

The video directly shows him thieving my bike. It is evidence in itself.

I have seen someone else do this and it was allowed. Why not now?

Beasty

John_Mc wrote: »

I have taken it to the Gardai and am waiting for them to do something about it.

The video directly shows him thieving my bike. It is evidence in itself.

I have seen someone else do this and it was allowed. Why not now?

That was an image of someone actually on the stolen bike - yours is an image of someone walking through a shop. Please PM me if you want any further clarification

Thanks

Beasty

John_Mc

Beasty wrote: »

That was an image of someone actually on the stolen bike - yours is an image of someone walking through a shop. Please PM me if you want any further clarification

Thanks

Beasty

The image of him stealing my bike is not clear and would be useless. The image I uploaded is him 2 minutes before he does it. I'd be happy to send you the video so you can verify by following him around the shop for the 9 minutes that he was in it before stealing my bike.

I'll not PM you. Lets keep this in the open.

Oldlegs

@John_mc

I suggest that you have a picture of someone of might well be able to help the Gardai with their investigations. If anyone might know the person they could pass the details on to the Gardai at (Pearse St.).

That would allow you to post the picture of someone you are trying to find who might be able to help.

Might be best to close this thread and start a new one posting the picture of the interested party.

kona

Post a few screen shots, first him robbing your bike and then onto the one of his face.

John_Mc

Oldlegs wrote: »

@John_mc

I suggest that you have a picture of someone of might well be able to help the Gardai with their investigations. If anyone might know the person they could pass the details on to the Gardai at (Pearse St.).

That would allow you to post the picture of someone you are trying to find who might be able to help.

Might be best to close this thread and start a new one posting the picture of the interested party.

Thanks for your reply Oldlegs. The shop has a CD waiting for the Gardai to collect but they haven't bothered yet (they were told about it on Monday).

They also gave me the CD so I printed out screenshots and a transcript of exactly what he did and on what camera at what time. I dropped it down to Pearse street garda station but the Garda couldnt seem less interested.

Our tax payers money hard at work :rolleyes:

I was told on the phone that 20-30 bikes go missing a month in D2 alone. Less than 10% are returned to the owner.

The bike cost me €600 + €150 in accessories which was bought on the bike to work scheme. I still have 3 instalments left to pay on it.

With these stats, the people who do try to cycle to work only get shafted by scumbags.

califano

John_Mc will you pm me the original screenshot and also everyone who thanks your opening post.

kona

John_Mc wrote: »

I was told on the phone that 20-30 bikes go missing a month in D2 alone. Less than 10% are returned to the owner.

The bike cost me €600 + €150 in accessories which was bought on the bike to work scheme. I still have 3 instalments left to pay on it.

With these stats, the people who do try to cycle to work only get shafted by scumbags.

All Things considered thats quite a low figure IMO. Also what lock were you using? If it was a decent lock you would still have your bike.
The only people who get shafted by scumbags are the ones who leave themselves open to it.

Get a Picture of the bike up too, and a description of non standard part and do you have a serial number <

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More Important than a knacks face.

funkyjebus

i work in the area. pm me screenshot of scum and pic of bike.

John_Mc

kona wrote: »

All Things considered thats quite a low figure IMO. Also what lock were you using? If it was a decent lock you would still have your bike.
The only people who get shafted by scumbags are the ones who leave themselves open to it.

Get a Picture of the bike up too, and a description of non standard part and do you have a serial number <

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More Important than a knacks face.

I wish I was as rich as you so I could disregard €750. It may be much in terms of Bikes, but it is a sizeable amount of money.

I spent €100 on a top of the range lock, which was an Abus/Agus. Regardless of that fact - 20-30 bikes go missing in Dublin 2 every month and you're trying to blame the bike owners :rolleyes:

I still have the receipt so will check if I have a serial number. I certainly didn't expect to have it robbed within 3 months.

I will upload the sequence of screenshots later on.

John_Mc

This is the bike that was stolen. It had mudguards, front and back lights and a pump attached.

blackmadra

Sorry to hear about the bike John. I would be great if you were allowed to post up the picture of the scumbag who took it. Why are the moderators on boards such power hungry Nazi's? :mad:

Captain Havoc

blackmadra wrote: »

Why are the moderators on boards such power hungry Nazi's? :mad:

Ha, I bet Hitler never banned anyone, see you next week Godwin

fat bloke

Godwin's law eh?

studiorat

John_Mc wrote: »

I spent €100 on a top of the range lock, which was an Abus/Agus. Regardless of that fact - 20-30 bikes go missing in Dublin 2 every month and you're trying to blame the bike owners :rolleyes:

What was it locked to? Did he cut the lock?

Mr. Presentable

studiorat wrote: »

What was it locked to? Did he cut the lock?

Doesn't really matter. If it was tied in place with a bit of string, the bike was still stolen.

AstraMonti

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

Doesn't really matter. If it was tied in place with a bit of string, the bike was still stolen.

Well it does actually, if it was a proper lock that got opened it would be good to know.

C3PO

blackmadra wrote: »

Sorry to hear about the bike John. I would be great if you were allowed to post up the picture of the scumbag who took it. Why are the moderators on boards such power hungry Nazi's? :mad:

I often find the moderators on this forum a bit "enthusiastic" but in this case I have to agree with them! You really can't go putting photos of some guy in a shop up on the web and label him a bike thief! I do however understand the OPs frustration!

Lumen

RPL1 wrote: »

I often find the moderators on this forum a bit "enthusiastic"

Sir, Sir, backseat modding! Ban him! Then ban me!

Beasty

Guys can everyone calm down. There are some real (boards-wide) issues here about posting pictures of "alleged" crime in-thread. We are discussing this internally at present, In the meantime please do not post further pictures of the individual pending that discussion.

Also could everyone leave the modding to the mods, and not discuss moderator action in-thread

Thanks

Beasty

happytramp

Seriously? we can't even talk about Mod's actions now? That's crazy.

Rew

happytramp wrote: »

Seriously? we can't even talk about Mod's actions now? That's crazy.

You can but there is a place for it that not here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=82

mcmoustache

AstraMonti wrote: »

Well it does actually, if it was a proper lock that got opened it would be good to know.

I second this. There is a concensus about how best to lock your bike and which locks should be used. The three youtube videos have been posted here many times before so I'm not going to go into what the best practice is.

If it turned out that the bike frame had been locked to a pole with a Kriptonite Evo and the wheels and saddle locked to the frame, then all of us here would need to rethink how we secure our bikes.

If it was some cheap chain or cable-lock, then we can all rest easy because most of us already know that these are useless on an expensive bike.

Rew

mcmoustache wrote: »

I second this. There is a concensus about how best to lock your bike and which locks should be used. The three youtube videos have been posted here many times before so I'm not going to go into what the best practice is.

If it turned out that the bike frame had been locked to a pole with a Kriptonite Evo and the wheels and saddle locked to the frame, then all of us here would need to rethink how we secure our bikes.

If it was some cheap chain or cable-lock, then we can all rest easy because most of us already know that these are useless on an expensive bike.

+1 good to know the circumstances of every theft so we can all learn from it

kona

John_Mc wrote: »

I wish I was as rich as you so I could disregard €750. It may be much in terms of Bikes, but it is a sizeable amount of money.

I spent €100 on a top of the range lock, which was an Abus/Agus. Regardless of that fact - 20-30 bikes go missing in Dublin 2 every month and you're trying to blame the bike owners :rolleyes:

I still have the receipt so will check if I have a serial number. I certainly didn't expect to have it robbed within 3 months.

I will upload the sequence of screenshots later on.

No need to get sarcastic, I dont believe a guy in a spar broke a lock WORTH e100 without some serious tools. Sounds like he saw your bike and took it handy enough, although you have the video, How did he take it?

Actually yes I am blaming owners, I wonder out of that statistic, the amount of morons using e30 cable locks, and locking their bikes around things like poles, fences, Putting the cable around the brake cable, Wheel, handlebars.
Ive never had a bike robbed from town, its been left in junkie central for 3 years and it has never been touched, bikes is worth over 1k and it looks it, locked with a e100 Kryptonite Fageddaboudit. And no I couldnt replace it because
1) I cant get the parts anymore

2) I dont have a spare 1500 lying around. Although c2w would make it easier.

If you lock your bike properly with a decent lock, the chance of it being robbed are minute as they are opportunistic, they will move to a easier target.

Im sorry for your loss.

07Lapierre

kona wrote: »

No need to get sarcastic, I dont believe a guy in a spar broke a lock WORTH e100 without some serious tools. Sounds like he saw your bike and took it handy enough, although you have the video, How did he take it?

Actually yes I am blaming owners, I wonder out of that statistic, the amount of morons using e30 cable locks, and locking their bikes around things like poles, fences, Putting the cable around the brake cable, Wheel, handlebars.
Ive never had a bike robbed from town, its been left in junkie central for 3 years and it has never been touched, bikes is worth over 1k and it looks it, locked with a e100 Kryptonite Fageddaboudit. And no I couldnt replace it because
1) I cant get the parts anymore

2) I dont have a spare 1500 lying around. Although c2w would make it easier.

If you lock your bike properly with a decent lock, the chance of it being robbed are minute as they are opportunistic, they will move to a easier target.

Im sorry for your loss.

+ 1 ... I was thinking the same. That is: Was the bike locked at all? A lot of people leave their bikes outside a shop and "nip in for a minute" to get something. A minute (or less) is all that these guys need.

Lock your bike, Lock your bike correctly, and always lock it to something more solid than the bike itself.

mcmoustache

John_Mc wrote: »

I spent €100 on a top of the range lock, which was an Abus/Agus.

How was it locked by the way? This is just so that others can know to avoid a locking system that was compromised.

Basically what sort of lock was it? D-Lock/U-lock, chain-lock, cable-lock etc.

What was the bike tied to?

What part of the bike was inside the lock?

Was the lock tight with little room to slip in a bottle-jack in the case of a D/U-lock?

I'm not having a go here. In fact, from previous posts I would suspect that you attached a U-Lock to the frame and a railing which is quite secure - for the frame at least. This is probably the most common way to lock a bike.

If a thief managed to remove the bike as locked above, lots of us would be curious about how they did it.

John_Mc

The bike was locked to the bike rail outside Fresh. I was still half asleep at the time so I can't remember exactly how I locked it, but I know I did from watching the video.

It wasn't a cheap lock, it was actually the opposite of one. The thing that's baffling me is that the lock is no longer there so it was opened some how.

In any case, the person that took it is a thief and deserves to be caught for it.

kona

John_Mc wrote: »

It wasn't a cheap lock, it was actually the opposite of one. The thing that's baffling me is that the lock is no longer there so it was opened some how.

He walked off with the lock still attached to the bike IMO.

Chefburns

John_Mc wrote: »

The bike was locked to the bike rail outside Fresh. I was still half asleep at the time so I can't remember exactly how I locked it, but I know I did from watching the video.

It wasn't a cheap lock, it was actually the opposite of one. The thing that's baffling me is that the lock is no longer there so it was opened some how.

In any case, the person that took it is a thief and deserves to be caught for it.

Pick-pocker your keys maybe? Or maybe if u were half asleep you thought you locked it to the rail but really just locked it to thin air?

mcmoustache

John_Mc wrote: »

The bike was locked to the bike rail outside Fresh. I was still half asleep at the time so I can't remember exactly how I locked it, but I know I did from watching the video.

It wasn't a cheap lock, it was actually the opposite of one. The thing that's baffling me is that the lock is no longer there so it was opened some how.

In any case, the person that took it is a thief and deserves to be caught for it.

I didn't see your post there so ignore my last one. It's odd that the thief took the lock with him as well, though. Was it possible to remove the bike from the railing with the lock still attached?

I'd love to see bike thieves sent to Saudi Arabia for judgement and sentencing. With bikes costing the same as a second hand car, I wish more were done for their recovery by law enforcement. Anyone caught thieving once should be watched as it's never a once-off thing.

PM me the pictures and if I see him about, I'll let you know where he was spotted and it might lead to information that Na Gárdaí could act on.

poochiem

jesus I hate these threads, it's like daily mail comment sections. Victim posts...within 6 replies they will be told that it's good enough for them. Every time.

Sorry to hear your new bike was stolen John Mc, I wouldn't mind if you left it against the door of Fresh unlocked, it's no fun to see your pride and joy and considerable investment disappear. Hope you find it.

dlofnep

Who cares what lock he used? His bike was stolen! It's not his fault.

Lumen

dlofnep wrote: »

Who cares what lock he used?

I care if he's using the same lock as me.

07Lapierre

Lumen wrote: »

I care if he's using the same lock as me.

I just bought one of these Wish me luck!

Karma

As we all know, it would be a cold day in hell before you get a "police Officer" interested in bike theft. Honestly, do they care?
I had my bike taken from my garden(locked but not enough, apparently) €2,500 worth(more than either of my cars), but not even a callback. I rang back and it was suggested i catch them for the "police" as they cant really do anything. similar stories about the card skimming that is going on,"can you come back another time, we are very busy."
try merlin auctions for your bike in a few months.

could somebody do their job?:o

Tommyadams

kona wrote: »

All Things considered thats quite a low figure IMO. Also what lock were you using? If it was a decent lock you would still have your bike.
The only people who get shafted by scumbags are the ones who leave themselves open to it.

I have to take issue with this, locks can be cut no matter what type, and I would say it's quite a high figure, especially if he has to work the rest off. I would suggest thinking about what your trying to say before posting, it's bad enough having a brand new bike robbed without being told off too.

sdanseo

I know boards.ie has to protect itself but this is seriously PC gone mad.

The CCTV - the OP claims - shows someone on his bike. If that person does not have permission to be on the bike then it's stolen.

What about posting the CCTV image and deleting all text, and with a caption "this guy may have stolen my bike, can anyone identify him so I can rule him out"?

:P

listermint

sdonn wrote: »

I know boards.ie has to protect itself but this is seriously PC gone mad.

The CCTV - the OP claims - shows someone on his bike. If that person does not have permission to be on the bike then it's stolen.

What about posting the CCTV image and deleting all text, and with a caption "this guy may have stolen my bike, can anyone identify him so I can rule him out"?

:P

this is generally how it is done on crimeline, The guards are looking to 'speak' to the individual here in relation to a theft of a bicycle. Could be a witness, whos knows still need to 'speak' to them....

Tommyadams

poochiem wrote: »

jesus I hate these threads, it's like daily mail comment sections. Victim posts...within 6 replies they will be told that it's good enough for them. Every time.

It's usually the same person. Very annoying.

Dav

Some important points:

1) In Irish law, a person is not guilty of anything until they have been convicted by a court.

2) To suggest that someone has committed a crime they haven't been convicted of is defamation.

3) To suggest that someone has committed a crime and to present evidence of it has the potential to have the case struck out of court as it can potentially bias any jurors chosen for the case.

That may sound like semantics and/or PC gone mad as someone else stated, but this is the law and whether or not you think it's right simply doesn't come into it. *IF* the person shown in the video/pics is convicted of the crime, it is *STILL* defamation to say "watch out for this guy, he steals bikes" and we (Boards.ie, not you folks) *STILL* have to go to court about it - EVEN IF IT'S TRUE! If it is true, the defamation case could potentially be thrown out, but we will have still have to spend time, money and resources defending ourselves and we simply cannot afford to do that.

So folks I'm appealing for calm heads here.

Mr. Presentable

How does this differ from this?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69035556

Rew

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

How does this differ from this?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69035556

Mod covered that on the first page of the thread

Raam

I'm special!

Chips Lovell

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

How does this differ from this?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69035556

Well, as Beasty pointed out, first of all the pic didn't show the bike being taken.

Secondly, there have been ongoing discussions behind the scenes since that earlier thread about this issue. What Dav has posted above is pretty much the position that's been arrived on.

As a result, we've decided that we can no longer have pics of people suspected of taking bikes.

kincsem

I had to wait for a lift outside a major south Dublin organisation last week. After pacing up and down I noticed a bike cage and bike racks so I went over to have a look at the bike locking. There was about 25 bikes in total. Only a few had Kryptonite or similar U shaped locks. Well over 90% had cheap cable locks. I rated only one bicycle as properly locked (U lock and chain/padlock). The facility was partly out of view of passing pedestrian and vehicle traffic so ideal for someone who wanted to choose a nice bike. Three routes out of it too.

Fwiw a boards poster had a new bike stolen at that organisation within the past year, but not at the bike cage / racks.

sdanseo

Dav wrote: »

Some important points:

1) In Irish law, a person is not guilty of anything until they have been convicted by a court.

2) To suggest that someone has committed a crime they haven't been convicted of is defamation.

3) To suggest that someone has committed a crime and to present evidence of it has the potential to have the case struck out of court as it can potentially bias any jurors chosen for the case.

That may sound like semantics and/or PC gone mad as someone else stated, but this is the law and whether or not you think it's right simply doesn't come into it. *IF* the person shown in the video/pics is convicted of the crime, it is *STILL* defamation to say "watch out for this guy, he steals bikes" and we (Boards.ie, not you folks) *STILL* have to go to court about it - EVEN IF IT'S TRUE! If it is true, the defamation case could potentially be thrown out, but we will have still have to spend time, money and resources defending ourselves and we simply cannot afford to do that.

So folks I'm appealing for calm heads here.

All due respect Dav, I can't see why the OP couldn't edit his text to suggest that all he wanted to do was "speak" to the person. Not nessecarily accusing him of anything.

kona

Tommyadams wrote: »

I have to take issue with this, locks can be cut no matter what type, and I would say it's quite a high figure, especially if he has to work the rest off. I would suggest thinking about what your trying to say before posting, it's bad enough having a brand new bike robbed without being told off too.

What I say seems to be landing about 100m to the right of you :rolleyes:

Yes lock can be cut.

Oppertunistic robber wont have diamond discs on a angle grinder.

They will have allen keys, pliers, cutters, bolt croppers. Hence, If you have a good lock, unless they have Diamond discs in a angle grinder they wont get through a New York fagedaboudit , how do I know? I read in a review where it took 2 discs to cut one.
They will use their tools on the cheaper locks, Everytime I lock my bike, there is another bike locked with a e30 cable, If a bike is gunna go missing between mine and theirs, odds are it will be theirs.

The quality of posting in this forum, has dropped terribly and I have to take issue with your post above, if your directing at me that I tell every person who has their bike robbed tough ****, I dont, I just ask them how it was robbed, because they are all for beating the **** out of knackers, posting their faces online, yet most the time the real issue is how they locked the bike in the first place.

All the "sorrys" aint gunna help next time

quarryman

poochiem wrote: »

jesus I hate these threads, it's like daily mail comment sections. Victim posts...within 6 replies they will be told that it's good enough for them. Every time.

Sorry to hear your new bike was stolen John Mc, I wouldn't mind if you left it against the door of Fresh unlocked, it's no fun to see your pride and joy and considerable investment disappear. Hope you find it.

exactly, well said.

kona wrote: »

What I say seems to be landing about 100m to the right of you :rolleyes:

Yes lock can be cut.

Oppertunistic robber wont have diamond discs on a angle grinder.

They will have allen keys, pliers, cutters, bolt croppers. Hence, If you have a good lock, unless they have Diamond discs in a angle grinder they wont get through a New York fagedaboudit , how do I know? I read in a review where it took 2 discs to cut one.
They will use their tools on the cheaper locks, Everytime I lock my bike, there is another bike locked with a e30 cable, If a bike is gunna go missing between mine and theirs, odds are it will be theirs.

The quality of posting in this forum, has dropped terribly and I have to take issue with your post above, if your directing at me that I tell every person who has their bike robbed tough ****, I dont, I just ask them how it was robbed, because they are all for beating the **** out of knackers, posting their faces online, yet most the time the real issue is how they locked the bike in the first place.

All the "sorrys" aint gunna help next time

Exactly what are you contributing to this thread?

First you dismiss the OP's value of the bike as if it he should just "chalk it down". Wow, I wish i was able to shrug it off if €750 was stolen off me.

Then you blame him for his bike getting stolen. So, nothing to do with the thief then?

Then you claim (with no evidence) that the thief walked away with the lock attached.

Stop talking complete and utter s**t.