Can someone please sum up to me what is happening with Charlie Sheen?

CorkMan

He is all over the place, but I don't know why exactly. I have heard drugs mentioned a good but, but is he taken a lot or a small bit? Or is he going insane or schizophrenic, or whatever.

The reports that he didn't test positive on a drug test, and that he posted on his twitter account the LAPD looked for a gun in his house smears my understanding more. He is the 15-tonne African Elephant in the middle of this media circus.

Overature

freind of mine watched the whole interview and apparently they had some doctor or something that said his mind is just gone

hondasam

not another charlie sheene thread

pablomakaveli

CorkMan wrote: »

He is all over the place, but I don't know why exactly. I have heard drugs mentioned a good but, but is he taken a lot or a small bit? Or is he going insane or schizophrenic, or whatever.

The reports that he didn't test positive on a drug test, and that he posted on his twitter account the LAPD looked for a gun in his house smears my understanding more. He is the 15-tonne African Elephant in the middle of this media circus.

He's winning.

minidazzler

Yes, someone on the celebrity forum would be delighted to.

Baile an Locha

Genuinely read the title as "Can someone sum up to me what is happening with Charlie Bird?"

cjmcork

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJg4zlWzEQc

Pawpad666

Basically this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg

RichieC

He's enjoying himself too much and the US equivalent of the Joe Duffy crowd aren't pleased.

macroboy

manic depressive in high state...reminds me of my dad..in acouple of months..he wont be able to get outta bed..dont worry

think about the guy who fused himself to a chair..:D:D

Contributor

CorkMan wrote: »

He is all over the place, but I don't know why exactly. I have heard drugs mentioned a good but, but is he taken a lot or a small bit? Or is he going insane or schizophrenic, or whatever.

The reports that he didn't test positive on a drug test, and that he posted on his twitter account the LAPD looked for a gun in his house smears my understanding more. He is the 15-tonne African Elephant in the middle of this media circus.

I knew he said he had tiger blood, but is actually saying he is an African Elephant now!?

Pink?

fedor.2.

Baile an Locha wrote: »

Genuinely read the title as "Can someone sum up to me what is happening with Charlie Bird?"

Should have gone to specsavers so, shouldn't ya

Pauleta

He doesnt care anymore and has decided to rip the piss out of the press.

cedan

Living the dream, people are jealous

RichieC

fedor.2. wrote: »

Should have gone to specsavers so, shouldn't ya

reported for advertising. :pac:

Logical Fallacy

cedan wrote: »

Living the dream, people are jealous

lol, that's the most tired thing in this whole Charlie Sheen debacle.

nanofano

looks like he has bipolar affective disorder, and in that infamous interview- he appears to be manic with psychotic features.
or could be drug induced psychosis, looks like he needs some medical help either way.

Acacia

State of Charlie Sheen lately. I'm scarleh for him...:pac:

Queen-Mise

Thanks OP - I have absolutely no idea of what is happening either with him. So I don't have a clue why any of the jokes or youtube clips are funny :o

Not a clue what is happening.

Poor Craythur

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

lol, that's the most tired thing in this whole Charlie Sheen debacle.

+1

Man, looking at that Youtube clip, Charlie has got old-looking!

Rhamiel

macroboy wrote: »

manic depressive in high state...reminds me of my dad..in acouple of months..he wont be able to get outta bed..dont worry

think about the guy who fused himself to a chair..:D:D

+1

Pure manic episode! Charlies as bipolar as they come :P
Its gonna be one massive downer though when it hits and he realises, in the pits of his depressive state, that he's made a show of himself in front of the world :eek:

Poor Craythur

Rhamiel wrote: »

Its gonna be one massive downer though when it hits and he realises, in the pits of his depressive state, that he's made a show of himself in front of the world :eek:

I sure his millions will soothe him.

Chaotic_Forces

He's bascially on a party life-style. Will he crash? Maybe.

He's essentially living life without giving a fu*k and people are upset.

Rhamiel

Poor Craythur wrote: »

I sure his millions will soothe him.

ya you'd think that alright...


great how that money stuff cures schizophrenia and all other mental illnesses as well :rolleyes:

Chaotic_Forces

Rhamiel wrote: »

ya you'd think that alright...


great how that money stuff cures schizophrenia and all other mental illnesses as well :rolleyes:

Depends on how you view it. If you think he's got a mental illness as told by the "professionals" then yes, money won't cure it.

If you cop on and realize he's just doing what he wants to do then yup, money will cure it.

Poor Craythur

Rhamiel wrote: »

ya you'd think that alright...


great how that money stuff cures schizophrenia and all other mental illnesses as well :rolleyes:

You know, I wasn't getting your point until you added in the rolleyes. Genius move!

I am aware mental illness is very serious. But not having to worry about money will make it marginally easier. Mental illness lands many people on the streets. Charlie at least won't have this worry.

General General

I liked him in The Godfather, but now he seems to have gone the way of Jim Corr...

Rhamiel

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Depends on how you view it. If you think he's got a mental illness as told by the "professionals" then yes, money won't cure it.

If you cop on and realize he's just doing what he wants to do then yup, money will cure it.

I'm going on my own personal opinion not the "professionals". Not that I believe that such "professionals" are in need of a good dose of cop on like you appear to?

My own opinion is yes, he has a serious mental illness and I believe that the spectacle created by his own deranged self and lapped up by a ravenous media is a fairly poor reflection of our society to be frank.

I also have an opinion that his drug and alcohol abuse are possibly more a symptom of his mental problems than it being the other way round

Poor Craythur

Rhamiel wrote: »

My own opinion is yes, he has a serious mental illness and I believe that the spectacle created by his own deranged self and lapped up by a ravenous media a fairly poor reflection of our society to be frank.

It was ever thus. Humans had that predatory cruel streak in ancient times and they still have it now.

starbelgrade

General General wrote: »

I liked him in The Godfather, but now he seems to have gone the way of Jim Corr...

He wasn't in The Godfather.

Neither was Charlie Sheen.

Chaotic_Forces

Rhamiel wrote: »

I'm going on my own personal opinion not the "professionals". Not that I believe that such "professionals" are in need of a good dose of cop on like you appear to?

My own opinion is yes, he has a serious mental illness and I believe that the spectacle created by his own deranged self and lapped up by a ravenous media is a fairly poor reflection of our society to be frank.

I also have an opinion that his drug and alcohol are possibly more a symptom of his mental problems than it being the other way round

So... explain Ozzy Osbourne.

HoneyRyder

pablomakaveli wrote: »

He's winning

Yeah, at being a complete loser.

A hypersensitive, intelligent loser.

purity

My heart goes out to him really:( I know he is successful and rich but what good is it? the poor man is demented, He had it all a great career all the money in the world but money isn't everything. I wasn't a big fan of two and a half men but it really became popular, I think Charlie's days of acting are well and truly over

Rhamiel

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

So... explain Ozzy Osbourne.

I've not been able to diagnose Ozzy with anything other than 'being great craic' :P

General General

starbelgrade wrote: »

He wasn't in The Godfather.

Neither was Charlie Sheen.

Sorry, I meant Apocalypse Now

Poor Craythur

General General wrote: »

Sorry, I meant Apocalypse Now

It was his daddio that was in that.

EDIT: Oh yeah, so was he.

ardinn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

Interview - his right nostril is about 6 times bigger than his left!!!

Chaotic_Forces

Rhamiel wrote: »

I've not been able to diagnose Ozzy with anything other than 'being great craic' :P

So you can compare one drug-crazed lunatic with another but call them differently?

Rhamiel

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

So you can compare one drug-crazed lunatic with another but call them differently?

Yup, sure can.. and I'll tell you how!



I'll ask you to do a little comparing as well if you dont mind:

symptoms of mania: http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/manic-depression-symptoms-faq.htm

charlie sheen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

still dont know where Ozzy comes into to be honest

Chaotic_Forces

Rhamiel wrote: »

Yup, sure can.. and I'll tell you how!



I'll ask you to do a little comparing as well if you dont mind:

symptoms of mania: http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/manic-depression-symptoms-faq.htm

charlie sheen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

still dont know where Ozzy comes into to be honest

Basically Ozzy seems to be i,mmune (at least compared to "normal" people) with drugs. Charlie is going on a bender. Ozzy went on one and tried to murder his wife. I don't see the difference as to while one is a loser and one is a legend. I don't mean that as an argumentive point or anything. It's just odd to me that people can think both ends of the spectrum.

Logical Fallacy

Poor Craythur wrote: »

But not having to worry about money will make it marginally easier. Mental illness lands many people on the streets. Charlie at least won't have this worry.

It actually won't, at all. It would appear that way because for folk like us, money is a worry...so surely removal of that worry would make life easier but it's just not the case.

It's also worth noting that Charlie Sheen is not rich enough to be poverty proof. No one really is. If Michael Jackson can die with a 400million dollar debt then anyone can. Willie Nelson is broke, Mike Tyson and he earned about 350million from his boxing career.

A few bad business moves and a few law suits and all your money can be gone very quickly. The simple truth is right now Sheen is still living his millionaire lifestyle but he is not earning millions.

Poor Craythur

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

It actually won't, at all. It would appear that way because for folk like us, money is a worry...so surely removal of that worry would make life easier but it's just not the case.

It's also worth noting that Charlie Sheen is not rich enough to be poverty proof. No one really is. If Michael Jackson can die with a 400million dollar debt then anyone can. Willie Nelson is broke, Mike Tyson and he earned about 350million from his boxing career.

A few bad business moves and a few law suits and all your money can be gone very quickly. The simple truth is right now Sheen is still living his millionaire lifestyle but he is not earning millions.

That's true. But mental illness is one of the main causal factors for ending up homeless because most of us are only a few months away from poverty if we lose our jobs. He is in a much better position than most of us and who knows what his family are doing to help him behind the scenes.

Chaotic_Forces

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

It actually won't, at all. It would appear that way because for folk like us, money is a worry...so surely removal of that worry would make life easier but it's just not the case.

It's also worth noting that Charlie Sheen is not rich enough to be poverty proof. No one really is. If Michael Jackson can die with a 400million dollar debt then anyone can. Willie Nelson is broke, Mike Tyson and he earned about 350million from his boxing career.

A few bad business moves and a few law suits and all your money can be gone very quickly. The simple truth is right now Sheen is still living his millionaire lifestyle but he is not earning millions.

Does it matter, though? Think about it. Let's say he's really on his last legs, all it means is that he's partying his last days out and it doesn't matter to him if he dies with debt.

Rhamiel

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Basically Ozzy seems to be i,mmune (at least compared to "normal" people) with drugs. Charlie is going on a bender. Ozzy went on one and tried to murder his wife. I don't see the difference as to while one is a loser and one is a legend. I don't mean that as an argumentive point or anything. It's just odd to me that people can think both ends of the spectrum.

Its prob due to the fact Ozzy plied his trade on the heavy metal scene for years where such extreme behaviour was seen as part and parcel of the job! He carved out a niche of a career by being everyones favourite hard rockin' nutter. That said I'm almost certain the mans own mental health has been questioned a few times throughout the years.

When Sheen explodes onto a self destructive rampage from the worlds most secure sitcom job it creates quite a different and more immediate impact.

Chaotic_Forces

Rhamiel wrote: »

Its prob due to the fact Ozzy plied his trade on the heavy metal scene for years where such extreme behaviour was seen as part and parcel of the job! He carved out a niche of a career by being everyones favourite hard rockin' nutter. That said I'm almost certain the mans own mental health has been questioned a few times throughout the years.

When Sheen explodes onto a self destructive rampage from the worlds most secure sitcom job it creates quite a different and more immediate impact.

I respect them both equally, to a point. I do prefer Charlie now for his blunt honesty. I think Charlie is fine.

Sinfonia

General General wrote: »

Sorry, I meant Apocalypse Now

That was another Sheen.
And another "Charlie" for that matter

Maybe you were thinking of Hot Shots Part Deux Platoon?

Rhamiel

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

It actually won't, at all. It would appear that way because for folk like us, money is a worry...so surely removal of that worry would make life easier but it's just not the case.

It's also worth noting that Charlie Sheen is not rich enough to be poverty proof. No one really is. If Michael Jackson can die with a 400million dollar debt then anyone can. Willie Nelson is broke, Mike Tyson and he earned about 350million from his boxing career.

A few bad business moves and a few law suits and all your money can be gone very quickly. The simple truth is right now Sheen is still living his millionaire lifestyle but he is not earning millions.

Rightly said, Its easy for us to look on celebrities as a higher privileged species but if he in fact is suffering from a manic depressive condition as I suspect then he will crash into a serious depressive episode and all that money wont matter from jack for the pains and woes of a very human condition.

OutlawPete

CorkMan wrote: »

Can someone please sum up to me what is happening with Charlie Sheen?

Yes .. he's: Win-ning!

You must be with the trolls if you don't recognise a warlock.

Only one thing for it so ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpvLCptAHT8

Logical Fallacy

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Does it matter, though? Think about it. Let's say he's really on his last legs, all it means is that he's partying his last days out and it doesn't matter to him if he dies with debt.

But even if he has severe depression or bi-polar disorder this doesn't mean he is on his last legs. He could still live a long and happy live. I know a few people, two with severe bi-polar disorder and when they are level they are superb human beings who get a lot of **** done and make the people who know them very happy.

Alternately he may just go on, close to forever, bouncing between total Ecstasy and complete and utter misery and people will say "yeah, that's cool" because they are removed from it or worse, in their tiny minds they actually think it's cool.

Sinfonia

I thought he was twitchy and intense due to withdrawal, and the all the 'Tiger Blood' etc. stuff was hyperbolic self-actualisation, as well as (as someone said above) not giving a **** about the media or what people think. This resulted in a realisation that all the catchphrases and outlandish statements could make him very popular (at least for a while), and people found it funny in some cases, or ironically funny in others. Hence the whole social media campaign.

With regards to him getting axed from his TV show, he clearly wasn't happy working on it. Dave Chappelle did the same thing before (as in gave up lotsa munneh) and people started talking about how he must be crazy. It's bollocks. High paying job or not, if you don't like it and you feel you can do better in terms of job satisfaction, why not leave? Sheen just did so in a blaze of glory. From what I've seen, he seems to be working pretty hard lately.

Poor Craythur

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Alternately he may just go on, close to forever, bouncing between total Ecstasy and complete and utter misery and people will say "yeah, that's cool" because they are removed from it or worse, in their tiny minds they actually think it's cool.

There will always be people out there who will egg on "crazy Charlie" or devour his "hilarious" exploits unfortunately. But hopefully he'll get on an even keel. I have a feeling most people would like him to get better.