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Problems with my first build -wiring? psu?

  • 28-03-2011 8:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭


    *sigh*beginning to regret not paying HWVS that extra few quid to build it for me and saved me all this hassle (but it would be fun says I :rolleyes:).

    Working all this evening putting it together but when I plugged it in and switched it on it spins up and stops and spins up again and stops until I plug it out (once I hit the power switch the only to power it off is flipping the switch at the back - prob an issue with wiring that just cant seem to figure out). Also there seems to be constant power going to the mobo as there is a light on it. Would this be an issue with my wiring or could it be shorting somewhere.

    Just looking for any ideas (or re assurance that i haven't completely screwed over my pricey build :p)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Do you have two power connections to the motherboard - a 20/24 pin and a 4/8 pin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭wal100




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    Yeah have the 4pin and 20 pin plugged in

    Thinking about just breaking it down to the bear essentials and trying it now (pull hdd, dvd, graphics card)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭wal100


    Trekmad wrote: »
    Yeah have the 4pin and 20 pin plugged in

    Thinking about just breaking it down to the bear essentials and trying it now (pull hdd, dvd, graphics card)

    Think the Power Switch ,Power Led , Reset Switch wired incorrectly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    at the moment I stripped all wires and just using the power switch plugged in


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Put together the PSU, CPU, cooler, mobo, one RAM module and graphics card if no onboard, and test.

    To check that you haven't an issue with the case, test it outside the case and use a screwdriver or spare jumper to bridge the switch terminals on the frontpanel pin header to turn it on and off.

    Its normal for most mobos to have a light on all the time, showing the PSU is correctly hooked up and the 5VSB rail is energised - this rail supplies the power switch and standby LEDs and USB peripherals while the PC is "off".

    If you have no onboard graphics, make sure that all needed PCIe PEG connectors from the PSU are hooked up to your graphics card! That build error is even more common than missing the ATX/EPS CPU power connector :o

    Finally, try resetting the CMOS (pull out battery for ~30 secs, push/bridge any CLR_CMOS button or jumper, reinsert battery) and trying again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    cheers Sol,

    I suspecting ive been sold a dud psu, I stripped the mobo out and now all there is - is the power going to it and the power switch and its the same crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    but i should be able to test it with the mother board alone and cpu fan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    :o I think I'm gonna call in help from the pc shop, but I do believe there is something up with the PSU as its likes its constantly tripping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭wal100


    Trekmad wrote: »
    :o I think I'm gonna call in help from the pc shop, but I do believe there is something up with the PSU as its likes its constantly tripping.

    Have you got another Psu to Try ? Is the processer , heatsink seated correctly ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    I believe so, but its worth a shot lifting both and re seating, but I am not hopeful :(

    No extra PSU lying around I'm afraid


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    You also need at least one stick of RAM and some kind of graphics for a minimum boot Trek :)

    What is the mobo and CPU again anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    MSI p67A GD55 - (B3)
    Intel Core i5 2500K


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    153226.jpg

    CPU fan, graphics card, ram - no joy :(

    Start - Stop -Start - Stop ......etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭seyeM


    If your graphics card is in the lower PCIe slot, move it to the upper one.

    Try just one stick of ram in every RAM slot. Make sure it is fully seated in the slot. If that doesn't work, try the other stick. What kind of RAM is it, and what voltage does it need?

    After that, unplug the PC, remove the cmos battery for a few minutes and put it back, then turn it on again.

    What PSU brand and model is in the PC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭seyeM


    Just saw that post with the pic - the second PCIe x6 connector isn't plugged in to the graphics card, was it like that when you tested?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    What PSU brand and model is in the PC?

    Super-Flower SF800P14XE Golden Green

    Just in case I didn't mention it earlier the psu fan and light is also starting stopping

    ram sticks - http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28068&agid=1193&lb

    EDIT both were plugged in thats an extra plug


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭seyeM


    2 more points, again based on the picture. I can't see the 8-pin ATX 12v power connector, make sure it's connected. It's located on the upper left of the motherboard. Again that's 8 pin, 4 of them may be covered with a removable plastic cap on that motherboard

    If that's not the problem, CPU coolers are normally mounted facing right to left on the motherboard. Check that the backplate isn't oriented in a way that it that is shorting connections on the back of the motherboard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    More images seeing that its all im going to achieve tonight

    Without G Card

    153228.jpg
    153227.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    You don't have your 8 pin CPU power plugged in. It's between the CPU and the rear I/O panel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    it is a black 4 pin plug behind your i/o see 3.05 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLOpoDGJZYk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    If I were you I would also mount the CPU fans so they're sucking air from the front of the case and blowing out the back rather than from the bottom as they're going to be obstructed by the graphics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    that had a cover over it
    153237.jpg
    153238.jpg

    might explain it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    massy086 wrote: »
    it is a black 4 pin plug behind your i/o see 3.05 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLOpoDGJZYk

    He points directly to it around about 3 mins in to that video.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    will rotate cpu fan, was trying everything in desparation :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    Trekmad wrote: »
    will rotate cpu fan, was trying everything in desparation :o
    well for now plug in the 4pin and the gpu and see if it will boot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭seyeM


    If the socket accepts 8 pins, plug 8 in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    I love you guys :o

    it boots but its ignoring my power switch(small issue)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    well done now put it in your case and try to carefully think out your cable,s and route them nice as your haf case hase great cable management also turn your cpu cooler have fun


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    Cheers,

    I ll try and have fun but by 3am ill prob be back on the cigs :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭massy086


    my haf 932 i think urs is 932 aswell ye
    [IMG][/img]SAM_0253.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    Pleased to report success, buzzing away behind me now. Too whacked to even consider installing W7. Bit p*ssed with myself for ordering the wrong hdmi cable but luckily there was a adapter supplied.

    Thanks for all the help guys y'all really saved me, I was well and truly beaten. :o


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