Non 'irish' players eligible/were eligible for republic of ireland

Leroy Lita

theres been alot of storys going around recently of english born players looking to play with the Republic Of Ireland.
this got me thinking about other's who are eligible but who havnt really shown interest in playing for Ireland and those who havnt been mentioned.
some of these include:
Jamie O'Hara (Wolves)
Matt Kilgallon (Doncaster)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kevin Nolan (Newcastle)
Kyle Naughton (Leicester)
Gary O'Neil (West Ham)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Mark Noble (West Ham)
is there much others?

also, what player who have delclared for ther countries of birth were eligible to play for ireland? i know Rooney has irish blood in him but was he eligible? same for Jamie Carragher.

also, is there players from anywhere other than the British Isles who is eligible for Ireland or was eligible for Ireland?

amiable

Leroy Lita

Leroy Lita

also read somewhere too that JonJoe Shelvey is eligible to play for the Republic. would be some addition

Paully D

Anton has been contacted by The FAI with regards to playing for Ireland.

Leroy Lita

Richard Stearman (Wolves) has been contacted by the FAI aswell

amiable

Do these players not have to have Irish Passports at the time they played underage football for their country of birth?

Seaneh

Loads of Aussies and Yanks are eligible.

Gary O'Neil would be a good player to have. Couldn't understand why no premier league teams tried to sign him when 'Boro were relegated, he was wasted in the championship for 18 months. Very good player.

OPENROAD

amiable wrote: »

Do these players not have to have Irish Passports at the time they played underage football for their country of birth?

Wouldn't have thought so, do they even have to have Irish passports if they do play for Ireland?

Seaneh

amiable wrote: »

Do these players not have to have Irish Passports at the time they played underage football for their country of birth?

No, that was never the case.

Seaneh

OPENROAD wrote: »

do they even have to have Irish passports if they do play for Ireland?

Yes.

OPENROAD

Seaneh wrote: »

Yes.

Assume they can still keep passport of there country of birth also?

Leroy Lita

Seaneh wrote: »

Loads of Aussies and Yanks are eligible.

like who? theres a difference between being eligible and having just irish ancestary.
youd think the likes of Tim Cahill, Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey have irish ancestary but it could well be too far back in order for em to have been eligible.

pablomakaveli

Leroy Lita wrote: »

like who? theres a difference between being eligible and having just irish ancestary.
youd think the likes of Tim Cahill, Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey have irish ancestary but it could well be too far back in order for em to have been eligible.

I've often wondered does Benni McCarthy have irish ancestry.

Pinturicchio

This topic comes up so often.

Leroy Lita wrote: »

like who? theres a difference between being eligible and having just irish ancestary.
youd think the likes of Tim Cahill, Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey have irish ancestary but it could well be too far back in order for em to have been eligible.

Tim Cahill would have been eligible under the current rules. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2002/1820871.stm

pablomakaveli

Actually isn't Wayne Rooney eligible? Thought i heard he'd an irish grandparent before.

CSF

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Actually isn't Wayne Rooney eligible? Thought i heard he'd an irish grandparent before.

No he was with an Irish grandparent.

tonycascarino

Kevin Nolan isn't eligible. His Irish link is supposedly his great grandparents which is one link too far.

Jamie O'Hara (Wolves)
Matt Kilgallon (Doncaster)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kyle Naughton (Leicester)
Gary O'Neil (West Ham)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Mark Noble (West Ham)
Richard Stearman (Wolves)
Adam Hammill (Wolves)
Jermaine Pennant (Stoke)
Connor Wickham (Ipswich)
Hogan Ephraim (QPR)
Matt Connolly (QPR)
Simon Cox (WBA)
Marc Tierney (Norwich)
Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool)
Luke Chambers (Notts Forest)
Andy Lonergan (Preston)
Conor Doyle (Derby)

Barry Maguire (FC Utrecht)
Colin & Niall Killoran (Tokyo Verdy) - Japanese/Irish http://www.goal.com/en/news/3376/goalcom-youth-football/2011/02/05/2338631/goalcom-scouting-report-colin-and-niall-killoran-tokyo-verdy
Robert Cullen (VVV Venlo) in Holland - Japanese/Irish http://www.hijonline.nl/content/Robert%20Cullen(2).jpg

Diabhal Beag

tonycascarino wrote: »

Stephen Ireland (Newcastle)

He scored against Wales in a competitive game so you should probably take him off the list. We know by now that he's eligible.

tonycascarino

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

He scored against Wales in a competitive game so you should probably take him off the list. We know by now that he's eligible.

It was said tongue in cheek. Deleted just for you.;)

Jordonvito

Seaneh wrote: »

Loads of Aussies and Yanks are eligible.

Gary O'Neil would be a good player to have. Couldn't understand why no premier league teams tried to sign him when 'Boro were relegated, he was wasted in the championship for 18 months. Very good player.

Really? Always thought he was a useful player, but that's it, don't think he would make much of a difference to the team

JPA

Seaneh wrote: »

Yes.

How can those with just an Irish grandparent get a passport?

Seaneh

Leroy Lita wrote: »

like who? theres a difference between being eligible and having just irish ancestary.
youd think the likes of Tim Cahill, Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey have irish ancestary but it could well be too far back in order for em to have been eligible.

Tim Cahill is/was.

Seaneh

JPA wrote: »

How can those with just an Irish grandparent get a passport?

Because their parent can get a passport and that would allow them to get one.

I might be wrong about the passport thing but afaik the only criteria for eligibility for a national team is citizenship.
Which is why you see Brazilian players playing for Croatia, Morocco, UAE and a few other countries despite having no ties to those countries.

eZe^

Seaneh wrote: »

Because their parent can get a passport and that would allow them to get one.

I might be wrong about the passport thing but afaik the only criteria for eligibility for a national team is citizenship.
Which is why you see Brazilian players playing for Croatia, Morocco, UAE and a few other countries despite having no ties to those countries.

Amauri is the best example of this really. Has played in Serie A, gained citizenship by marrying a girl with citizenship, and realised he'd never play for Brazil, so now he's 'Italian'.

Seaneh

eZe^ wrote: »

Amauri is the best example of this really. Has played in Serie A, gained citizenship by marrying a girl with citizenship, and realised he'd never play for Brazil, so now he's 'Italian'.

You could add Marcos Senna to the list too.

razorblunt

I remember playing an older version of Championship manager where it listed Kieron Richardson as being eligible to play for Ireland, not sure if it's true or not.

Dolph Starbeam

I didn't know Darren Ambrose could play for us, very nice player, not sure if he's any better than Fahey but he is a good player.

tallaghtmick

tonycascarino wrote: »

Kevin Nolan isn't eligible. His Irish link is supposedly his great grandparents which is one link too far.

Barry Maguire (FC Utrecht)
Colin & Niall Killoran (Tokyo Verdy) - Japanese/Irish http://www.goal.com/en/news/3376/goalcom-youth-football/2011/02/05/2338631/goalcom-scouting-report-colin-and-niall-killoran-tokyo-verdy
Robert Cullen (VVV Venlo) in Holland - Japanese/Irish http://www.hijonline.nl/content/Robert%20Cullen(2).jpg

nolan can marry me if it means we get a decent midfielder:pac:
the jap/irish twins really look like they have brains in terms of development regardless of the nation they choose i hope they go far in the game
that cullen fella looks crazy get him onboard now!!!!!

eZe^

Seaneh wrote: »

You could add Marcos Senna to the list too.

Difference being Senna in his pomp was good enough to play for Brazil. Amauri on the other hand is just plain old rubbish.

Seaneh

eZe^ wrote: »

Difference being Senna in his pomp was good enough to play for Brazil. Amauri on the other hand is just plain old rubbish.

when he was at Palermo he was in amazing form and if he hadn't picked up injuries he'd have been in a few squads. Dunga said as much.

gosplan

Leroy Lita wrote: »

also read somewhere too that JonJoe Shelvey is eligible to play for the Republic. would be some addition

I'd be far more surprised if someone called JonJoe wasn't eligible to play for us.

The Volt

Really think that O'Hara would be class for us. Hopefully he declares.

mink_man

cahill was eligible for scotland too.

Dont think any of these have been mentioned yet:

Paul Scholes - Imagine him and Keane in the middle for Ireland in their pomp. We wouldnt have wasted him on the left side of midfield either.

Martin Keown

Aaron Lennon

Steve Mcmanaman

Steve Bruce

Darren Fletcher

Vinny Jones

Zat Knight

Gazza

Kevin Keegan

Peter Reid

Lucas Neill

Di Stefano - not sure on this, possibly had an Irish grandmother. Actually lots of Argies with Irish roots. Probably none of them eligible anymore, but a couple of generations ago they would have been.

Che Guevara - handy left winger in his day.

bonerm

tonycascarino wrote: »

Kevin Nolan isn't eligible. His Irish link is supposedly his great grandparents which is one link too far.

Jamie O'Hara (Wolves)
Matt Kilgallon (Doncaster)
Anton Ferdinand (Sunderland)
Kyle Naughton (Leicester)
Gary O'Neil (West Ham)
Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace)
Mark Noble (West Ham)
Richard Stearman (Wolves)
Adam Hammill (Wolves)
Jermaine Pennant (Stoke)
Connor Wickham (Ipswich)
Hogan Ephraim (QPR)
Matt Connolly (QPR)
Simon Cox (WBA)
Marc Tierney (Norwich)
Jonjo Shelvey (Liverpool)
Luke Chambers (Notts Forest)
Andy Lonergan (Preston)
Conor Doyle (Derby)

Barry Maguire (FC Utrecht)
Colin & Niall Killoran (Tokyo Verdy) - Japanese/Irish http://www.goal.com/en/news/3376/goalcom-youth-football/2011/02/05/2338631/goalcom-scouting-report-colin-and-niall-killoran-tokyo-verdy
Robert Cullen (VVV Venlo) in Holland - Japanese/Irish http://www.hijonline.nl/content/Robert%20Cullen(2).jpg

Ironic looking at who has come up with the most comprehensive list so far.

edolan

I think Mark Noble is eligible as was Gareth Barry.

OPENROAD

Ameer Immense Nitpicker wrote: »

Dont think any of these have been mentioned yet:

Paul Scholes - Imagine him and Keane in the middle for Ireland in their pomp. We wouldnt have wasted him on the left side of midfield either.

Martin Keown

Aaron Lennon

Steve Mcmanaman

Steve Bruce

Darren Fletcher

Vinny Jones

Zat Knight

Gazza

Kevin Keegan

Peter Reid

Lucas Neill

Di Stefano - not sure on this, possibly had an Irish grandmother. Actually lots of Argies with Irish roots. Probably none of them eligible anymore, but a couple of generations ago they would have been.

Che Guevara - handy left winger in his day.

Really :eek::D

Hannibal

Mark Beeney, John Filan, Kevin Pressman, Joe Corrigan

Jamie Carragher, Rio Ferdinand, Anton Ferdinand, Martin Keown, Gary Cahill, Lucas Neill, Steve Bruce, Franck Queudrue, Richard Stearman, Jose Luis Brown, Zat Knight

Steven Gerrard, Steve McManaman, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Paul Scholes, Gareth Barry, Tim Cahill, Kieran Richardson, Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan, Mark Noble, Gary O'Neil, Jamie O'Hara, Aaron Lennon, Adam Hammill, Peter Reid, Steve McMahon, Gerry Byrne, Ian Callaghan, Vinny Jones, Craig Johnston, John O'Brien, Jermaine Pennant, Michael Bradley

Robbie Fowler, Wayne Rooney, Diego Forlan, Clint Dempsey, Connor Wickham, Chris Sutton, Dean Holdsworth, Chris Armstrong, Brian McBride, Kevin Gallen, Dave Kitson, Lee Trundle, Noel Whelan, Ashley Ward, Sean Dundee, Kevin Keegan, Jimmy Greaves, John Connelly, Alfredo DiStefano

tallaghtmick

Dotsey wrote: »

Mark Beeney, John Filan, Kevin Pressman, Joe Corrigan

Jamie Carragher, Rio Ferdinand, Anton Ferdinand, Martin Keown, Gary Cahill, Lucas Neill, Steve Bruce, Franck Queudrue, Richard Stearman, Jose Luis Brown, Zat Knight

Steven Gerrard, Steve McManaman, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Paul Scholes, Gareth Barry, Tim Cahill, Kieran Richardson, Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan, Mark Noble, Gary O'Neil, Jamie O'Hara, Aaron Lennon, Adam Hammill, Peter Reid, Steve McMahon, Gerry Byrne, Ian Callaghan, Vinny Jones, Craig Johnston, John O'Brien, Jermaine Pennant, Michael Bradley

Robbie Fowler, Wayne Rooney, Diego Forlan, Clint Dempsey, Connor Wickham, Chris Sutton, Dean Holdsworth, Chris Armstrong, Brian McBride, Kevin Gallen, Dave Kitson, Lee Trundle, Noel Whelan, Ashley Ward, Sean Dundee, Kevin Keegan, Jimmy Greaves, John Connelly, Alfredo DiStefano

Irish granda's riding internationally since 1845:D

Jayob10

Dotsey wrote: »

Mark Beeney, John Filan, Kevin Pressman, Joe Corrigan

Jamie Carragher, Rio Ferdinand, Anton Ferdinand, Martin Keown, Gary Cahill, Lucas Neill, Steve Bruce, Franck Queudrue, Richard Stearman, Jose Luis Brown, Zat Knight

Steven Gerrard, Steve McManaman, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Paul Scholes, Gareth Barry, Tim Cahill, Kieran Richardson, Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan, Mark Noble, Gary O'Neil, Jamie O'Hara, Aaron Lennon, Adam Hammill, Peter Reid, Steve McMahon, Gerry Byrne, Ian Callaghan, Vinny Jones, Craig Johnston, John O'Brien, Jermaine Pennant, Michael Bradley

Robbie Fowler, Wayne Rooney, Diego Forlan, Clint Dempsey, Connor Wickham, Chris Sutton, Dean Holdsworth, Chris Armstrong, Brian McBride, Kevin Gallen, Dave Kitson, Lee Trundle, Noel Whelan, Ashley Ward, Sean Dundee, Kevin Keegan, Jimmy Greaves, John Connelly, Alfredo DiStefano

Many of these names are nonsense, alot them cannot play for Ireland.

Jayob10

ive heard Lewis McGugan at forest's ould fella is from Monaghan, but don't think he has much dealings with him

classy midfielder

killwill

Seaneh wrote: »

Tim Cahill is/was.

Tim Cahill wanted to play for RoI. But Mick Mc Carthy turned him down. Then he declared for the Aussies.

yabadabado

killwill wrote: »

Tim Cahill wanted to play for RoI. But Mick Mc Carthy turned him down. Then he declared for the Aussies.

McCarthy didn't turn him down ,he had already played for Samoa U17 and wasn't eligible at the time.The rule has since been changed.

killwill

yabadabado wrote: »

McCarthy didn't turn him down ,he had already played for Samoa U17 and wasn't eligible at the time.The rule has since been changed.

Really? My bad then. He must have had that international at a very young age then.

yabadabado

killwill wrote: »

Really? My bad then. He must have had that international at a very young age then.

He palyed U17 when he was 13/14.I read it somewhere he treated it like a holiday to go to Samoa to visit his grandparents.Seems strange that he was willing to go to court in 2002 to play for us but when the rules were changed in 04 he declared for OZ.

tallaghtmick

sugarman wrote: »

Could Carlo Cudicini be eligible to play for us? Since it says hes "eligible to represent any of the British nations – England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales."

I know he has no Irish connections, but IF he chose to represent Norn Iron, maybe got into the squad/play a friendly or 2, then change alliance to the republic. Any way possible?

I know its abit mad, but just goin with the thread:p

no chance im afraid

partyndbs

landon donovon
clint dempsey
brian mcbride
lionel scaloni
diego forlan
fabio o'neil

not sure how far back they were though

Hannibal

Jayob10 wrote: »

Many of these names are nonsense, alot them cannot play for Ireland.

That's because some of them are retired!!

yabadabado wrote: »

He played U17 when he was 13/14. I read it somewhere he treated it like a holiday to go to Samoa to visit his grandparents. Seems strange that he was willing to go to court in 2002 to play for us but when the rules were changed in 04 he declared for OZ.

I heard thats because he was desperate to play in that World Cup but when the rules changed it only allowed players to declare for the country of their birth. FIFA have since changed the rules again. Anyway if he played for Ireland he would be called Cahill instead of K-hill

Colilfc

Kanu.
Nah but seriously could Gerrard have some Irish link with his cousin Anthony declaring for us, and I think Darren Potter is his cousin aswell?

Mr. Fancypants

Talk of Newcastle's left back Shane Ferguson switching from Northern Ireland to the Republic

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0401/1224293540053.html

Fr Tod Umptious

partyndbs wrote: »

landon donovon
clint dempsey
brian mcbride
lionel scaloni
diego forlan
fabio o'neil

not sure how far back they were though

well that the most important part, it can be no further back that a grandparent.