Neighbour drilling into my extension wall!

hangover_ie_ie

I put on an extension on to the back of my house on my side of the fence. Fair enough neighbour agreed the builder could go onto their property last month to plaster the wall and dash it. as it couldnt be done from my side its a semi d.
Today there was a huge racket with drilling right from my wall. i was like what on earth is that. Just now i took a peek over the wall and he has 5 hanging baskets on the wall also a shelf for flowers. I dont mind but would of liked if he had of asked. Is this ok for your neighbour to drill into a boundary wall thats built on YOUR property. even though it straddles his house.

Outkast_IRE

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

I put on an extension on to the back of my house on my side of the fence. Fair enough neighbour agreed the builder could go onto their property last month to plaster the wall and dash it. as it couldnt be done from my side its a semi d.
Today there was a huge racket with drilling right from my wall. i was like what on earth is that. Just now i took a peek over the wall and he has 5 hanging baskets on the wall also a shelf for flowers. I dont mind but would of liked if he had of asked. Is this ok for your neighbour to drill into a boundary wall thats built on YOUR property. even though it straddles his house.

Well in fairness as long as hes not doing any damage i would just leave it slide , he was fair enough to let you build the extension without complaint and let builders on his side.
Im sure its just so he doesnt have to stare at the bare wall all the time .

Snazzy_Chazzy

:)should be ok . no biggy only some baskets

Outkast_IRE

sure just have a look at the work next time the family next door is out, as long as hes done it proper there isnt much to worry about.

paddy147

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Well in fairness as long as hes not doing any damage i would just leave it slide , he was fair enough to let you build the extension without complaint and let builders on his side.
Im sure its just so he doesnt have to stare at the bare wall all the time .

I would think that no neighbour can drill or alter your property,as the wall is on your side of the boundary wall/fence.



I know I wouldnt let any neighbour of mine drill into my house walls.

Afterall,Its my house wall and not theirs.

Poor Uncle Tom

paddy147 wrote: »

I would think that no neighbour can drill or alter your property,as the wall is on your side of the boundary wall/fence.



I know I wouldnt let any neighbour of mine drill into my house walls.

Afterall,Its my house wall and not theirs.

When it comes to your house wall, I have to agree here. If the wall is built entirely on your property and once there is no overhanging of eaves, etc, then no one has a right to interfere without your permission.

Radonman

get over it folks , its just a few hanging baskets and a shelf. Plus he was fair enough to let the plastering be done, of course he's gonna decorate his side of the wall plus technically the foundation for the wall is in the neighbours property!! so live and let live i say.

Poor Uncle Tom

Radonman wrote: »

get over it folks , its just a few hanging baskets and a shelf. Plus he was fair enough to let the plastering be done, of course he's gonna decorate his side of the wall

That's the problem, it isn't HIS SIDE of the wall if it is built entirely on the OP's property.

Radonman wrote: »

plus technically the foundation for the wall is in the neighbours property!!

That's overhanging and shouldn't happen. Foundations are usually designed so they don't trespass.

Where I'm coming from is this:
Suppose the OP want's to sell his property. Any trespass will have to be rectified before sale as any potential buyer will not want any burdens on title, it can affect the value of the property. The longer the neighbour has the baskets and shelf, etc, in place the more rights the neighbour has. It can get very messy.

paddy147

Radonman wrote: »

get over it folks , its just a few hanging baskets and a shelf. Plus he was fair enough to let the plastering be done, of course he's gonna decorate his side of the wall plus technically the foundation for the wall is in the neighbours property!! so live and let live i say.

ITS NOT HIS WALL TO DRILL OR DECORATE

The extension wall is clearly within the boundary fence,as the OP has stated.

The op asked permission to go over onto the neighbours garden to plaster the wall,but the fact of the matter is that the wall is not on the boundary wall or in the neighbours garden,and therefore the neighbor is tampering with and interfering with property that is not his.

newmug

I dont get this. It seems there is NO boundary wall. What was there before you built your extension OP? If your extension is actually serving as the boundary, then technically your neighbour owns half of the wall he just drilled into AFAIK. In which case he's perfectly entitled to drill into it.


Either way, the wall wont fall or anything. Good relations with your neighbours is worth way more than a few hanging baskets.

bruschi

regardless of the technicalities, it would seem from the description of the property that the OP cant see the part of the wall that has been re decorated and only the neighbour has that view. If it makes things look better, then what harm is in it? Probably should have asked, but is worth hassle over something that doesnt affect anyone really in the scheme of things.

Doom

Its my field......:p

Poor Uncle Tom

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

I put on an extension on to the back of my house on my side of the fence.

What's not to understand?

newmug wrote: »

It seems there is NO boundary wall. What was there before you built your extension OP? If your extension is actually serving as the boundary, then technically your neighbour owns half of the wall he just drilled into AFAIK. In which case he's perfectly entitled to drill into it.

Totally wrong.

Using your logic, if the boundary between myself and my neighbour is notional I can claim ownership of the neighbours garden until I meet a wall.

Poor Uncle Tom

Doom wrote: »

Its my field......:p

It's a fine line, don't cross it....:D

newmug

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

What's not to understand?

Below I've outlined where the confusion lies (MY confusion at least, maybe its just me!!!)


First, the OP says his extension is on his side of the fence:

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

I put on an extension on to the back of my house on my side of the fence.

Then he said he got it plastered, as if there's NO fence physically present:

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

Fair enough neighbour agreed the builder could go onto their property last month to plaster the wall and dash it. as it couldnt be done from my side its a semi d.

Then he says its a WALL, not a fence:

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

Just now i took a peek over the wall

Then he said its a boundary wall that the neighbour has drilled into, ie a separate wall, not part of the extension:

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

Is this ok for your neighbour to drill into a boundary wall

And FINALLY he says that this boundary wall, is actually on HIS property, yet it straddles the neighbours house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hangover_ie_ie wrote: »

thats built on YOUR property. even though it straddles his house.

I'm totally confused. OP could you give a bit more detail please?

jj build

Fair enough he should of asked, but for a peaceful life i would let it go, you could have a bad hangover from it for years to come with one argument leading to another,unless you like a good/bad argument.

martinn123

This in my opinion is a classic case of neighbours agreeing to extentions etc without taking some advice.

The problem may not in the short term be hanging baskets, but if the neighbour decides to extend into the area by Conservatory or Sunroom.

What is now the external wall of the OP could become the internal wall of the neighbours extention with the roof tying in below the new facia soffitt line.

the neighbour could reasonably expect not to have to build a new wall paralell to the extending wall as he would loose the width of the block, dry lining etc, say 12''

I see this a lot, and any changes to boundary or new walls should be looked at as if one or both houses were for sale, and what would a prospective buyer of surveyor decide

Mellor

Less of the nonsense guys. It's a simple issue.

paddy147 wrote: »

I know I wouldnt let any neighbour of mine drill into my house walls.

Afterall,Its my house wall and not theirs.

Why the hell not?
I'd want him to ask, but I don't see why you wouldn't let him.

newmug wrote: »

I dont get this. It seems there is NO boundary wall. What was there before you built your extension OP? If your extension is actually serving as the boundary, then technically your neighbour owns half of the wall he just drilled into AFAIK. In which case he's perfectly entitled to drill into it.

This is 100% wrong.

newmug wrote: »

Then he said he got it plastered, as if there's NO fence physically present:

A fence is normally 1.8m high
An extension is normally 2.5-3m high.

Then he said its a boundary wall that the neighbour has drilled into, ie a separate wall, not part of the extension:

Wrong again.
A building wall can also serve as a boundary. This is quite common

martinn123 wrote: »

the neighbour could reasonably expect not to have to build a new wall paralell to the extending wall as he would loose the width of the block, dry lining etc, say 12''

no he couldn't expect that.

If the OP built inside the existing boundary wall/fence/whatever then the neighbour has to build his own. Period

The only time a extension wall can become a shared party wall is when it is built on the boundary, with permission of neighbours. Normally the reason for giving this permission is the intention to build an extension at a later date.
But he can never simply expect to built up to any rear extension

jj build

Not to mention its illegal and it would have to be a firewall .

martinn123

jj build wrote: »

Not to mention its illegal and it would have to be a firewall .

Can you give me a brief, idiots quide to the ''firewall'' regulation.

Its me who's the idiot

thanks

martinn123

martinn123 wrote: »

This in my opinion is a classic case of neighbours agreeing to extentions etc without taking some advice.

The problem may not in the short term be hanging baskets, but if the neighbour decides to extend into the area by Conservatory or Sunroom.

What is now the external wall of the OP could become the internal wall of the neighbours extention with the roof tying in below the new facia soffitt line.

the neighbour could reasonably expect not to have to build a new wall paralell to the extending wall as he would loose the width of the block, dry lining etc, say 12''

I see this a lot, and any changes to boundary or new walls should be looked at as if one or both houses were for sale, and what would a prospective buyer of surveyor decide

Reading my post in full, and not a selective quote you will note that in fact I agree, assuming the matter was discussed before building commenced, the edge of the new block would form the boundary, and a future extention by the neighbour could be facilitated.

Mellor wrote: »

Less of the nonsense guys. It's a simple issue.


A building wall can also serve as a boundary. This is quite common


If the OP built inside the existing boundary wall/fence/whatever then the neighbour has to build his own. Period

The only time a extension wall can become a shared party wall is when it is built on the boundary, with permission of neighbours. Normally the reason for giving this permission is the intention to build an extension at a later date.
But he can never simply expect to built up to any rear extension

My point exactly

Carlow52

Seems to me that Item 10 on the stone Moses collected needs consideration here:
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbors house, thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife, husband, slave or ox or donkey or anything that belongs to thou neighbor: Thou shall not drill your neighbors w[all, ife].

As pointed out earlier, the issue here is the position of the 'drilled' face of the wall relative to the boundary line as shown on the land registry / site map.

If the drilled face of the wall is on or inside the boundary line |then the drilling neighbor is in the wrong.
If the drilled face is beyond the boundary line then that portion of the wall belongs to the drilling neighbour
..................|
Inside | wall | beyond

ps If the facia board/soffit board/rain gutter are beyond then there are more problems

nophd08

Move his baskets around when he is not looking and plant vegetable seeds in among his flowers. Play with his mind.:D:D He sounds like a right miserable bo****ks when he didnt even ask.

newmug

Carlow52 wrote: »

If the drilled face of the wall is on or inside the boundary line |then the drilling neighbor is in the wrong.
If the drilled face is beyond the boundary line then that portion of the wall belongs to the drilling neighbour



..................|
Inside | wall | beyond

ps If the facia board/soffit board/rain gutter are beyond then there are more problems

Thats what I thought too. OP will you clarify?

newmug

Well OP, whats the latest?