Sockets on wall

Sofiztikated

Hi All.

Just wondering, can someone point me in the right direction.

If you have a Semi-D, is it true that you are not supposed to have sockets on the party wall?

LoTwan

If it is then my last house was in breech of the law... there were 5 double sockets on the party wall.

DublinDilbert

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Hi All.

Just wondering, can someone point me in the right direction.

If you have a Semi-D, is it true that you are not supposed to have sockets on the party wall?

I've never heard of such a regulation. You could ask over in the electrical forum, but i think your electrician is trying to make life easy for himself ;-)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1018

danjo-xx

2 story end terrace and nearly all our sockets are on the party wall. Sounds like he's too lazy to chisel out the wall for the cable.

paddy147

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Hi All.

Just wondering, can someone point me in the right direction.

I can help you here.

Heres what to do...........................................

Point the sparks in the direction of the front door,then tell him to walk out through it and not to come back ever again.

gman2k

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Hi All.

Just wondering, can someone point me in the right direction.

If you have a Semi-D, is it true that you are not supposed to have sockets on the party wall?

It depends....
If the house is of typical block wall construction, then you are ok.
If the construction is timber frame, then there are more considerations.

Corkblowin

In a timber frame you can't recess into the party wall - but can be surface mounted - bit ugly but can be hidden by false wall.

The issue with blockwork is that you are reducing the thickness of the wall & so soundproofing is compromised. It was a particular problem in traditional semi-d's where since the houses were handed versions each other you could be left with only 100mm of block and no render on the party wall.

I'm not sure if the is a reg for it tho. Part E might apply I suppose.

Mellor

danjo-xx wrote: »

2 story end terrace and nearly all our sockets are on the party wall. Sounds like he's too lazy to chisel out the wall for the cable.

paddy147 wrote: »

I can help you here.

Heres what to do...........................................

Point the sparks in the direction of the front door,then tell him to walk out through it and not to come back ever again.

Danjo, Paddy.
If you don't know the answer then don't post. Don't do this again.
You both obviously aren;t sure of the requirement so don't speculate. This is regardless as to weather its a rule or not.

Corkblowin wrote: »

In a timber frame you can't recess into the party wall - but can be surface mounted - bit ugly but can be hidden by false wall.

The issue with blockwork is that you are reducing the thickness of the wall & so soundproofing is compromised. It was a particular problem in traditional semi-d's where since the houses were handed versions each other you could be left with only 100mm of block and no render on the party wall.

I'm not sure if the is a reg for it tho. Part E might apply I suppose.

It's not a sound issue. Reducing the wall over such a small area isn't going to have a big effect.
It's a fire issue. Part B refers to National Rules for Electrical Installations produced by the Electro-Technical Council of Ireland.
i don't have a copy, but that would have the required conditions. Not readily availible online

writhen

From an acoustical design point of view you shouldn't put electrical sockets on a party wall. Common sense really.

Sofiztikated

Thanks all.

House is block built, with a number of sockets on recessed into the party wall.

My engineer has pointed it out, but I couldn't find any information online anywhere, and I wanted to double check he was right, as its a sticking point with the seller.