Chelsea for the champions league

EI111

Chelsea are 7/1 to win the champions league.
I feel this is a fairly good price given that they have what i feel is the best defence in the competition. They are a huge threat from set pieces, they have a versatile midfield which is the only one that i see beating barcelona on merit (real could rise to the occasion but i think barca are a much better team).
They have beaten united twice, a united side that dont look to have an edge in any area of the pitch over them as far as i can see.
I don't rate inter and think chelsea would be 4/7 shots at best to progress to the final if they got by united (they are 5/6) to do so.

This gives a price of around 7/4 to win the final if you take my assumptions and I think that is too long.

Any input to add?

fkiely

I wholeheartedly agree and it's a bet I've been considering since before the Copenhagen game. I'd have them as second or third favourites behind Real and Barca and the 7/1 is a price I'd certainly still consider. Ancelotti has the experience of winning it a few times as well.

I think I'll follow you on this, good shout.

EI111

I may have underestimated inter a bit in that price and they have good players and a non clown manager but I still like the bet a lot and have had a decent punt on it

duffman13

EI111 wrote: »

Chelsea are 7/1 to win the champions league.
I feel this is a fairly good price given that they have what i feel is the best defence in the competition. They are a huge threat from set pieces, they have a versatile midfield which is the only one that i see beating barcelona on merit (real could rise to the occasion but i think barca are a much better team).
They have beaten united twice, a united side that dont look to have an edge in any area of the pitch over them as far as i can see.
I don't rate inter and think chelsea would be 4/7 shots at best to progress to the final if they got by united (they are 5/6) to do so.

This gives a price of around 7/4 to win the final if you take my assumptions and I think that is too long.

Any input to add?

They have beaten United once this season and it wasnt the most straight forward win, United started extremelly well and knocked the ball around well till they took the lead then went back into there shells. Not something i can see SAF letting happen again.

A big player for Chelsea in that game was David Luiz who is cup tied so wont feature. Its gonna be a cagey game and i think Chelsea may struggle without Luiz, he is quick and strong. Its a big price but for a reason with stirkers struggling to find any kind of rythem they may struggle in the next few games.

They have s strong defence but not the best in the champions league that is between United and Real Madird which is kind of surprising

EI111

duffman13 wrote: »

They have beaten United once this season and it wasnt the most straight forward win, United started extremelly well and knocked the ball around well till they took the lead then went back into there shells. Not something i can see SAF letting happen again.

A big player for Chelsea in that game was David Luiz who is cup tied so wont feature. Its gonna be a cagey game and i think Chelsea may struggle without Luiz, he is quick and strong. Its a big price but for a reason with stirkers struggling to find any kind of rythem they may struggle in the next few games.

They have s strong defence but not the best in the champions league that is between United and Real Madird which is kind of surprising

Deal breaker, time to lay back my bet then. He is the man really.

fkiely

Meh, I wouldn't be put off by Luiz being cup tied considering they have Alex coming back from injury who is more than capable of filling in for him. I'd still be very happy with the price.

Warper

Ya, Chelsea are probably the third best in Europe right now and with the top 2 on the other side, they could at least get to the final. The final is a one off game in their home town so they would have a chance. They should beat Utd at which they are 10-11 to qualify. It looks like Inter in the semi who are a top side, no question about that. They would prob be around 4-6 to qualify from that and if they got through that would be around 7-4 to win the final against Barca and even shorter if against Madrid. 7-1 is a fair price and they look to be getting better.

El Horseboxo

I feel like putting money on United because i really don't want them to win it. At least i'd get a financial reimbursement for my troubles if they did. But looking at how they have been playing i just don't think their luck can continue all the way to the final.

PEACEBROTHER

I quite fancy Inter Milan, There starting to play well again and There a nice price ( Best price 9/1 i think )

Just think that if they can get ahead in a game at all that they will be very hard to break down .

I mite wait and see how few more of my bets turn out before backing them

Agree though with OP that Chelsea are a great price considering the fire power they have @ moment ( even if 1 or 2 are firing blanks at the moment ;);) )

jive

I made a write up about this in my log. I'm going to back Chelsea because as far as I'm concerned you're backing them at 13/2 to beat United. Chelsea/United will beat Inter this year no doubt in my mind. Inter had the Mourinho factor last year and they're very beatable this year. The final is a one-off game but I'll take Chelsea e/w so you will get paid 1/3 odds if they make it to the final. Realistically they will be playing Barca/Madrid and in a one off game anything can happen. You could always lay chelsea or back Barca/Madrid in the final to guarantee more winnings or just ride your luck in hope of a bigger pay out. If they get passed United you'll get your moneys worth in watching the matches at least!

EI111

jive wrote: »

I made a write up about this in my log. I'm going to back Chelsea because as far as I'm concerned you're backing them at 13/2 to beat United. Chelsea/United will beat Inter this year no doubt in my mind. Inter had the Mourinho factor last year and they're very beatable this year. The final is a one-off game but I'll take Chelsea e/w so you will get paid 1/3 odds if they make it to the final. Realistically they will be playing Barca/Madrid and in a one off game anything can happen. You could always lay chelsea or back Barca/Madrid in the final to guarantee more winnings or just ride your luck in hope of a bigger pay out. If they get passed United you'll get your moneys worth in watching the matches at least!

No offense, but not one sentence there makes sense

jive

EI111 wrote: »

No offense, but not one sentence there makes sense

No offence, but you may want to brush up on your English then because what I wrote makes perfect sense.

EI111

It doesn't to be honest, 13/2 to beat united?

Anyway I lol'd at your response thanks

jive

EI111 wrote: »

It doesn't to be honest, 13/2 to beat united?

Anyway I lol'd at your response thanks

"as far as I'm concerned you're backing them at 13/2 to beat United. Chelsea/United will beat Inter this year no doubt in my mind."
And then I explained I'm taking them e/w.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or retarded? Won't be replying to you again anyway! I wish you the best of luck in grasping the English language in the future!

EI111

jive wrote: »

"as far as I'm concerned you're backing them at 13/2 to beat United. Chelsea/United will beat Inter this year no doubt in my mind."
And then I explained I'm taking them e/w.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or retarded? Won't be replying to you again anyway! I wish you the best of luck in grasping the English language in the future!

Not really trolling or retarded to be honest. Can you exlain to me how putting down a tenner in any way shape or form will yield 65 in profit if they beat united, even if they cruise past inter 10-0?

Collie D

jive wrote: »

I made a write up about this in my log. I'm going to back Chelsea because as far as I'm concerned you're backing them at 13/2 to beat United. Chelsea/United will beat Inter this year no doubt in my mind. Inter had the Mourinho factor last year and they're very beatable this year. The final is a one-off game but I'll take Chelsea e/w so you will get paid 1/3 odds if they make it to the final. Realistically they will be playing Barca/Madrid and in a one off game anything can happen. You could always lay chelsea or back Barca/Madrid in the final to guarantee more winnings or just ride your luck in hope of a bigger pay out. If they get passed United you'll get your moneys worth in watching the matches at least!

If you're planning to back Chelsea to lay off in final would you not be better backing them just to reach the final? At 7/1 you'd be getting odds of 4/6 on your stake to reach the final whereas this bet is available at 2/1. Obviously you would still have the win part runing for you in the outright market but depends on how you plan to stake your backing and laying.

minty16

Collie D wrote: »

If you're planning to back Chelsea to lay off in final would you not be better backing them just to reach the final? At 7/1 you'd be getting odds of 4/6 on your stake to reach the final whereas this bet is available at 2/1. Obviously you would still have the win part runing for you in the outright market but depends on how you plan to stake your backing and laying.

Would you not rather have the 7/1 of them winning it in the bank ? There would be no point in laying if the bet was e/w as you would already be covered.

Collie D

minty16 wrote: »

1/3 of 7/1 is not 4/6 ?? :S..

It is if you're losing your win stake.

Say €3 each way @ 7/1 = €6 bet

Place is €3 @ 7/3 = €10 return on outlay of €6 ie €4 profit on €6 bet = 4/6

Win would work out at €34 for €6 stake or just over 9/2

Collie D

minty16 wrote: »

Would you not rather have the 7/1 of them winning it in the bank ? There would be no point in laying if the bet was e/w as you would already be covered.

I know that but the guy I quoted was talking of laying it off, I didn't see point. His main concern seemed to be Chelsea making the final rather than actually wining in which case 2/1 to reach the final would make more sense

minty16

Not really because even if you lay it off, you have locked in a substantial extra profit or 'free profit' if you like , should they win the final. Much greater than the difference between 4/6 and 2/1 .