NR for Alistar Cragg

runjb

Alistar Cragg's newly focused turn to road running started with an excellent new Irish record in the NY half marathon.

His time of 1 hr 49sec takes 8 seconds off the old record set by Martin Fagan in 2009.

Excellent result from an excellent athlete.

downwithfacses

i warned you :D:D:D:D

wgtomblin

Excellent result! Hope he can continue that form and stay injury-free for Boston.

Dan man

Great result for Cragg, encouraging performance. Wish him well for Boston.

shels4ever

That is super running, really happy for him. Beating some 2:10 runners in the race too. Boston is going to be a must watch.

shels4ever

Any news on whats up with ryan hall another below par run for him today, didnt even notice him at first glance at the results.

BeepBeep67

shels4ever wrote: »

Any news on whats up with ryan hall another below par run for him today, didnt even notice him at first glance at the results.

He's not giving away much

Ryan Hall



Rough day...but still looking forward to Boston a month from now...thanks to the great crowd support in NYC today. Always love racing here.

eliwallach

runjb wrote: »

Alistar Cragg

His time of 1 hr 49sec takes 8 seconds off the old record set by Martin Fagan in 2009.

Thank God for that.
At first glance, I feared Non-Runner when I saw the NR.

Go Cragg!

TrackFan123

For about 5 minutes I have sat here reading that as 1h49mins and wondering why our NR was so slow!!!

tang1

Same as previous post, thinkin i was in with a shout of breaking the national half marathon record:p:p Great run by Cragg, hopefully its a sign of better to come.

TFBubendorfer

Ryan Hall wrote:

Rough day...but still looking forward to Boston a month from now...thanks to the great crowd support in NYC today. Always love racing here.

Maybe having a training plan would have helped ...

Totally off topic, I know, I know

shels4ever

Anyone want to watch the race you can get it here
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3965197

Not sure what Rupp was doing but I like the Ninja look

clubcard

Savage run but you would expect that.Still think he will struggle to run close to Irish national record.
half v full are alot differn't :P

shels4ever

clubcard wrote: »

Savage run but you would expect that.Still think he will struggle to run close to Irish national record.
half v full are alot differn't :P

I'd expect him to lower the record for the half again after that, he said after the race he didnt feel in trouble at any point in the race, but just didnt have the speed over the last few miles because of the marathon training. Though he ran a really good race.

average_runner

Hope he does well, be good to have someone reprsent Ireland in the marathons in the olympics and world championships.

KentuckyPete

I heard a god one in work today - Cragg was described (by a runner) as "the anti-Derval O'Rourke" - as in she rises to great achievement in the green shirt while he has lately tended to implode in the same garment. I don't necessarily agree - he's made some significant finals over the past few years - achievement enough in itself. Plus you gotta admire the way he keeps on keeping on despite the setbacks.

Hey, either way he ran very well yesterday - 26 seconds off the winner in a cracking time. Here's hoping he rips it up in Boston and delivers the goods.

T runner

VIDEO HERE

pgmcpq

T runner wrote: »

VIDEO HERE

At 1.43.41 - I am the guy in the white top with the dark/white sleeves, blue shorts and sunglasses who is initially hidden behind the the guy in black with the armwarmers. And again post finish at 1.44.02 looking down checking the watch.

Gringo78

shels4ever wrote: »

I'd expect him to lower the record for the half again after that, he said after the race he didnt feel in trouble at any point in the race, but just didnt have the speed over the last few miles because of the marathon training. Though he ran a really good race.

Pretty good time considering Mo Farah who won the race shaved 36sec off the UK record so Craggs time was inside old UK record. Considering he was up against fresher guys, maybe Gebremariam was the only one also in marathon training, thats a great half time. Tadese ran 58:30 same day in Lisbon so shows though the sizeable gap that is still there to the Africans.

TheRoadRunner

Gringo78 wrote: »

Pretty good time considering Mo Farah who won the race shaved 36sec off the UK record so Craggs time was inside old UK record. Considering he was up against fresher guys, maybe Gebremariam was the only one also in marathon training, thats a great half time. Tadese ran 58:30 same day in Lisbon so shows though the sizeable gap that is still there to the Africans.

Yeah but 58.30 is the second fastest time ever run for half marathon distance so needs to be put in perspective. Craggs time would have him competitive in most races.

Gringo78

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Yeah but 58.30 is the second fastest time ever run for half marathon distance so needs to be put in perspective. Craggs time would have him competitive in most races.

True, Tadese's time is pretty special and standout from the bunch, but about 20 Kenyans & Ethopians (& an Eritrean of course) have bettered Farahs time already this year.

BeepBeep67

Credit where's it's due for Cragg, he now holds 2 National Records, he's one of the top Europeans over the HM and has a great opportunity to run a fast Marathon. Although I'm not sure Boston is the right choice.

TFBubendorfer

Gringo78 wrote: »

True, Tadese's time is pretty special and standout from the bunch, but about 20 Kenyans & Ethopians (& an Eritrean of course) have bettered Farahs time already this year.

But keep in mind that Tadese is basically a half-marathon specialist. Most other runners that weekend would have been in marathon training instead.

Cragg said as much, he felt comfortable all the way, just did not have the top speed at the end to match the other guys. By the looks of it, road running might just be his forte, I don't think he would crack under pressure in the marathon like he did on the track on occasion in the past.

woodchopper

Gringo78 wrote: »

True, Tadese's time is pretty special and standout from the bunch, but about 20 Kenyans & Ethopians (& an Eritrean of course) have bettered Farahs time already this year.

A very poor argument to be honest. Farah went through 5k in 15.05 which is 63 minute half pace. All the other halfs that the Africans run go through in at least 14.30 and they maintain that speed. New York is not a time trial race and Gebremariam is probably the most likely African apart from Kebebe and Sammy to win the Olympic gold in London. Farah is in a vey good place right now as is Galen Rupp and ALL STAR Cragg.

tunguska

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Maybe having a training plan would have helped ...

Totally off topic, I know, I know

What is up with Ryan Hall? He seems determined to not realise his great potential.

JKF

tunguska wrote: »

What is up with Ryan Hall? He seems determined to not realise his great potential.

Well according to this 'Jesus' is apparently his new coach.. Wish him the best of luck with that

Great run by Cragg. Really hope he does well in Boston

tunguska

JKF wrote: »

Well according to this 'Jesus' is apparently his new coach.. Wish him the best of luck with that

Great run by Cragg. Really hope he does well in Boston

Yeah Boston will be Cragg's big chance to show if really has the bottle or not. L.A. Olympics 1984 all over again I think.

fiddy3

Don't diss Jesus, he's got a great kick, and has the beating of Cragg and Farah on a good day, like in Gothenburg 2006.

runjb

http://www.european-athletics.org/general-news/cragg-ready-to-make-his-mark-in-boston-after-new-york-run.html


Good article on Cragg from European Athletics...he'll be aiming to be Europe's lead finisher in Boston!

ecoli

Looks like Fagan may still have the NR after all:

Farah’s record questioned
Mo Farah’s superb half-marathon victory in New York last weekend was clear-cut enough. Not so the ensuing debate over whether his time of 60min 23secs constitutes a British record.
The Londoner now sits on top of UK Athletics’ all-time half-marathon list, though with an ‘a’ next to his name that denotes: “The course is slightly downhill but eligible”.
Not eligible enough for the International Association of Athletics Federations, however, who refuse to recognise the New York course for record purposes because the finish is lower and too distant from the start.
That means that, as far as records go, Nick Rose’s time 61.03 set in Philadelphia in 1985 still stands as the official UK mark, despite numerous media claims that the record now belongs to Farah.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/shart/100015987/london-2012-olympics-diary-libyas-football-hopes-hit-by-no-fly-zone/

MichiganIrish

Irish distance running is looking up again. Ciaran O'Lionaird ran 28.32 for 2nd place in the 10k at Stanford...great run by him.

myflipflops

MichiganIrish wrote: »

Irish distance running is looking up again. Ciaran O'Lionaird ran 28.32 for 2nd place in the 10k at Stanford...great run by him.

Great run, especially with only a guy like Cheseret ahead of him. You have to think there's plenty more in the tank.

Between himself and McCarthy, hopefully we'll have some guys in the mix at NCAA.

Pherekydes

I was reading today in Athletics Weekly, April 7, that this NY HM course is not eligible for record purposes. The net drop from start to finish is 29m, which exceeds the allowable limit of 1m/km. Also, the guy writing the article maintained that there was evidence that there may have been a fair bit of wind assistance in the second half of that race. He reckoned that runners may have benefitted to the tune of 1:30. ARRS continues to recognise Martin Fagan's and Nick Rose's Irish and British records and not the times run in this race by Cragg and Mo Farah.