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  • 18-03-2011 9:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭


    can i be fined for leaving dirt on the road i.e clay from wheels on tractor:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    macker16 wrote: »
    can i be fined for leaving dirt on the road i.e clay from wheels on tractor:confused:

    You probably feel its ok for you to dump stuff on the public road, which could lead somebody to have an accident.
    Would you feel ok, if neighbours were to dump the odd few glass bottles and the occasional bicycle in your silage fields.
    There's a plonker farmer in every parish who cares not a wit about dumping half a field on the public road, and won't lift a finger to clean up afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭Mr.Success




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    macker16 wrote: »
    can i be fined for leaving dirt on the road i.e clay from wheels on tractor:confused:

    Not so sure its a punishable offence per se. BUT if it is found that it was a contributory factor in an accident, you may be held responsible.
    So clean it up like 99% of other farmers. Maybe I'd be grumpy too if I was in the same situation!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    macker16 wrote: »
    can i be fined for leaving dirt on the road i.e clay from wheels on tractor:confused:

    I think you can alright! Its up to you to clean it. An aul yardscraper up the road after the offending machine should do the job though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    I think there is some obligation to clean/tidy up a road after certain activities, but I am not sure what.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Ev84


    Mr.Success wrote: »

    That's not even ALL of the story, read what else he did:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/4469961/The-muck-stops-here.html

    His final fling occurred on June 12 this year, when he dumped a five-ton load on the doorstep of the Ponteland branch and returned to his farm - pursued by police. Amazingly, he managed to reload and chugged back to the bank, where he made a second five-ton deposit. A low-speed chase ensued, the police puncturing the 10mph tractor's tyres with a "stinger'.

    David was charged with criminal damage, dangerous driving, driving without an excise licence and failing to stop for a police officer. Last Monday he was given a 60-day suspended sentence and ordered to pay £845.60 compensation plus £250 costs.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    it is a cul de sac road the width of the tractor:mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Ev84 wrote: »
    That's not even ALL of the story, read what else he did:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/4469961/The-muck-stops-here.html

    His final fling occurred on June 12 this year, when he dumped a five-ton load on the doorstep of the Ponteland branch and returned to his farm - pursued by police. Amazingly, he managed to reload and chugged back to the bank, where he made a second five-ton deposit. A low-speed chase ensued, the police puncturing the 10mph tractor's tyres with a "stinger'.

    David was charged with criminal damage, dangerous driving, driving without an excise licence and failing to stop for a police officer. Last Monday he was given a 60-day suspended sentence and ordered to pay £845.60 compensation plus £250 costs.

    :pac:


    What gripe does he have with the bank? Bring him over here I say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭agrostar


    Tora Bora wrote: »
    You probably feel its ok for you to dump stuff on the public road, which could lead somebody to have an accident.
    Would you feel ok, if neighbours were to dump the odd few glass bottles and the occasional bicycle in your silage fields.
    There's a plonker farmer in every parish who cares not a wit about dumping half a field on the public road, and won't lift a finger to clean up afterwards.

    Why is everyone attacking this post he only asked a simple question?
    He simply asked if he could be fined for leaving dirt on the road from the wheels of the tractor.
    Awkward neighbours can be a nightmare.........
    He didnt specify how much "CLAY" came off the wheels of his tractor,
    How many times he entered and exited the gateway.
    Seeing as the weather is relativaly dry i would amagine the should be very little debris from the wheels, but everyones circumstances are different.....
    I think people on here should get all the facts before jumping on their high horses................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Decoda


    Roads Act 1993 Section 13

    (10) (a) A person who, without lawful authority or the consent of a road authority—
    (i) defaces a public road by writing or by any other means,
    (ii) damages a public road,
    (iii) excavates a public road,
    (iv) (I) places or deposits any material or thing on a public road,
    (II) permits dung or urine from an animal owned by him or any material or thing which falls from a vehicle owned or used by him, to be left on a public road,:mad: or
    (III) does any other thing,
    such that the material, thing, dung or urine or the doing of such other thing is a hazard or potential hazard to persons using a public road or obstructs or interferes with the safe use of a public road or the maintenance of a public road,shall be guilty of an offence


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    Thanks for the support i am loading silage onto a bale carrier the most of clay is outside the entrance to the field the rest of the road is clean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Ev84


    newmug wrote: »
    What gripe does he have with the bank? Bring him over here I say!

    Check the link I put on my post, All I did was "cut and paste" a section of an article from the telegraph.

    On topic OP, If it's a big problem sure it would only take five minutes with a hoe or shovel to knock off the worst of the muck before you head on to the road... I never heard of anyone getting fined for it yet though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    agrostar wrote: »
    Why is everyone attacking this post he only asked a simple question?
    He simply asked if he could be fined for leaving dirt on the road from the wheels of the tractor.
    Awkward neighbours can be a nightmare.........
    He didnt specify how much "CLAY" came off the wheels of his tractor,
    How many times he entered and exited the gateway.
    Seeing as the weather is relativaly dry i would amagine the should be very little debris from the wheels, but everyones circumstances are different.....
    I think people on here should get all the facts before jumping on their high horses................

    Show me where I attacked him/her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    forget about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    macker16 wrote: »
    Thanks for the support i am loading silage onto a bale carrier the most of clay is outside the entrance to the field the rest of the road is clean

    We do the very same, except we clean up. And its all the easier to contain when it's just at the entrance. A few mins with a shovel/brush otherwise its a courtcase waiting to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Decoda wrote: »
    Roads Act 1993 Section 13

    (10) (a) A person who, without lawful authority or the consent of a road authority—
    (i) defaces a public road by writing or by any other means,
    (ii) damages a public road,
    (iii) excavates a public road,
    (iv) (I) places or deposits any material or thing on a public road,
    (II) permits dung or urine from an animal owned by him or any material or thing which falls from a vehicle owned or used by him, to be left on a public road,:mad: or
    (III) does any other thing,
    such that the material, thing, dung or urine or the doing of such other thing is a hazard or potential hazard to persons using a public road or obstructs or interferes with the safe use of a public road or the maintenance of a public road,shall be guilty of an offence

    Good post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭agrostar


    Bizzum wrote: »
    Show me where I attacked him/her?

    Didnt mean to include several other posters there just a small bit slow...... on the keyboard ye managed to get ye're posts in before me:rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    macker16 wrote: »
    can i be fined for leaving dirt on the road i.e clay from wheels on tractor:confused:

    Your neighbour has probably opened another thread called 'mucky neighbour'....

    Rather than worrying about the fine, maybe try to get on with your neighbours, even if the law does not compel you to.

    LC


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