Lime application.

Jack C

Have to spread lime this year, about 2ton /acre on about 10 acres.Just wondering is it possiple to spread that ground limestone using a manure shaker. It's an amazone 1.5 ton twin spinner but would that stuff run or would it just clog up.

dar31

would just clog up.
more trouble than its worth

kboc

Jack C wrote: »

Have to spread lime this year, about 2ton /acre on about 10 acres.Just wondering is it possiple to spread that ground limestone using a manure shaker. It's an amazone 1.5 ton twin spinner but would that stuff run or would it just clog up.

did you investigate the granulated lime in bags? this can be done by fert spreader

moy83

Go with the gran lime . We did four or five acres with the manure shaker a few years ago the old lad was driving around with me in the shaker poking it down with a spade not a safe or pleasant experience and never again

reilig

Jack C wrote: »

Have to spread lime this year, about 2ton /acre on about 10 acres.Just wondering is it possiple to spread that ground limestone using a manure shaker. It's an amazone 1.5 ton twin spinner but would that stuff run or would it just clog up.

A side slinger will spread it. Just don't fill it to the level of the rotor shaft!!

Nobbies

2 ton 2 the acre on 10 acres?thats 1 lorry load.4 the sake of acost of about 100 euro max 2spread it by acontractor supplied by the limestone quarry.woulld,nt that b the best option and not b giving urself hardship trying 2get it out of afertiliser sower????(is,nt that lime in abulk bag acrazy price verus the usual lime? €23.50 aton delivered and spread in the north east 4 the quarry lime)

Jack C

Thanks for all replies. Think I'll take advice and get someone to shake it. Enough hardship without taking on more.

Bizzum

Jack C wrote: »

Thanks for all replies. Think I'll take advice and get someone to shake it. Enough hardship without taking on more.

Now you're talking! Spreading it yourself is hardship. Granulated lime is prohibitively expensive if you need an adjustment of 2T/Acre. Have you reseeded?

kay 9

We're using the gran lime for the past couple of years with great results and beauty is it can be spread by the farmer himself. Is also approved by reps and has both calcium and magnesium;)

F.D

kay 9 wrote: »

We're using the gran lime for the past couple of years with great results and beauty is it can be spread by the farmer himself. Is also approved by reps and has both calcium and magnesium;)

whats the price difference between bulk and gran lime per ton?

black diamond

F.D wrote: »

whats the price difference between bulk and gran lime per ton?

From what I know it's big. Gran lime is used as a top up if results are required quicker than are being achieved.

I would never use it, but I would also ensure quality of ground limestone. Some of the material being passed as ground limestone in Connaught is laughable. Basically it's not fine enough. There are fineness requirements for ground limestone which should be printed on the delivery dockets. Some quarries grind there limestone finer than the requirement s and that s the stuff that will give you results. The other stuff has no real fines in it and thus results can be really slow..

I like to see dust when I'm getting lime spread!

what happen

i was thinking of spreading lime .gran lime better coz it not blowing away and you know how much your putting on to the acre .too much lime will ieave land very wet and kill the earthworms.

black diamond

If the moisture level is correct then thevampung that will be blown away is minimal. Again it's all to do with the quality like everything.

pajero12

kay 9 wrote: »

We're using the gran lime for the past couple of years with great results and beauty is it can be spread by the farmer himself. Is also approved by reps and has both calcium and magnesium

What doe you think lime is? :P

Seriously though, At what rate do you apply it? Is much of it lost as dust?

Muckit

I'm making enquiries at the moment to spread lime aswel. roughly 2T/acre.

However, some of my land floods in the winter Nov/March so wondering is it a waste spreading Ground lime on this? Will it be leeched from the soil come next winter?

kay 9

pajero12 wrote: »

What doe you think lime is? :P

Seriously though, At what rate do you apply it? Is much of it lost as dust?

Lime is calcium. The Magnesium is an extra additive in the granulated lime;)

kay 9

F.D wrote: »

whats the price difference between bulk and gran lime per ton?

It's working out quite a bit cheaper for us than spreading the old style lime. The ordinary lime will last longer in the soil than gran lime but gran lime works better and it's easy put a tonne out as needed. We apply about 2.5 - 3 bags per acre. Seeing results already after a spread sept 2010. Would like to get it tested. They reccomend about 6.4 for grazing and silage land I think.

black diamond

kay 9 wrote: »

Lime is calcium. The Magnesium is an extra additive in the granulated lime;)

Ground limestone consists of ( in most cases) calcium and magnesium. The most important criteria for any liming material is it TOTAL Neutralising Value TNV. The better ground limestones will have TNV value of 95% and above. This is pretty much what the granulated stuff has.
My take on all this jargon is, ground limestone is the most economic method. If you keep an eye on your results you should never get into a situation where you need a "quick" and expensive option.

Bodacious

I am going to spread gran lime on a field now that i plan to kill off and reseed after first grazing using roundup/ chain harrow/seed/ roller method wouldnt gran lime be still in soil? Any advice most welcome or would i be better off to hold lime til new grass seed has established?

kay 9

It will be still in the ground. I would be inclined to put 2 bag/ac out before carrying out the reseeding and again after with the same application of 2 bags/ac. However if you were to plough it I would use the ground lime. In your case I would think that gran lime applied in portions before and after should be the finest.

case 956

well lads got the soil tested there last yr and needs Lime. i spreading the G lime at a rate of 1 bag/acre on all grassland. Only started spreading last wk. Asked a "PROFESSIONALs" advice and he sed the Gran Lime works straight away compared to Ground lime which takes 6 months to work. he also sed that Gran lime spread a bag every yr for 5 yrs and the benefits huge. Wot ye tink?? bag Lime 177 euro tonne, ground Lime 23.00 Ton Spread in Offaly

jeff greene

How can 1cwt do the same as 1 tonne of ground when it is the same spec, don’t believe the PR. Lime is lime, gran lime has 100% finesse of 150 microns or less, good quality ground lime will have at least 35% or 7cwt per ton. Its no contest.

keep going

+1 jeff gran lime is for spot jobs but i do reckon it is faster acting than ordinary lime could have a place on short rents

Muckit

Any lime is better than no lime. And at the price of fertiliser this year, it's money well spent IMO.

razor8

how soon after spreading gran lime can you graze with sheep?

bob charles

razor8 wrote: »

how soon after spreading gran lime can you graze with sheep?

just aslong as they dont get rolled over by the tractor and spreader, no need to move them out of the field in the first place.

PatQfarmer

bob charles wrote: »

just aslong as they dont get rolled over by the tractor and spreader, no need to move them out of the field in the first place.

Excellent:D

razor8

il be away off tomorrow to get some so

Gilally

razor8 wrote: »

il be away off tomorrow to get some so

Can I just ask what are the main reasons for spreading lime on land. We have mountain land and our neighbouring farmers all do it, killing off fluke and ticks was a reason given to me by one farmer??

Farmer Pudsey

The main reason to spread lime is to increase the PH of land to as nears as possible to 7 ideally to around 6.5 it allows fertlizer to work more efficently as most plants can take up nutrients at this ph. It would have little or no effect on ticks or fluke I think unless you used burnt (builders) lime

f140

reilig wrote: »

A side slinger will spread it. Just don't fill it to the level of the rotor shaft!!

did you try that before? how did it work

f140

just saw this vid. doesn't look too convincing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy32gdp2toY

Zr105

f140 wrote: »

just saw this vid. doesn't look too convincing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy32gdp2toY

Was spreading line with a contractor last summer and the guy was trying to get a bit out with a rear discharge dung spreader, it certainly wouldn't e something id bother even trying to do, the bredal leaves a nice fairly wide, even spread, all the rear discharge was doing was putting it out heavy straight behind, i the bare width of the spreader, and light bit to each side of spreader.... And was also creating an awful lot more of it to blow around the fields as it was hitting about a foot of the height of the beaters wereas the bredal is only a few inches of a width before it starts to fall, hard to explain but hopefully you get what i mean

grassroot1

f140 wrote: »

just saw this vid. doesn't look too convincing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy32gdp2toY

It looks like the muck lime you used to get from the sugar factory, albeit very white looking.