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When will someone write a definitive version of ourselves... like The Wire

  • 16-03-2011 11:05pm
    #1
    nosey rosie
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    We're so famous for,,.... and proud of our writers.
    Now that we're going through a terrible, defining moment of ourselves as a nation ...where are the tv writers ... or books chronicling this?

    Yegods! our only internationally successful export is Mrs Browns' Boys


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  • #2
    Morgan Freeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭Morgan Freeman


    It won't be you writing it thats for sure.

    It will be me.

    Red


  • #3
    nosey rosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭nosey rosie


    Morgan Freeman wrote: »
    It won't be you writing it thats for sure.

    It will be me.

    Red
    Submit the script... I'll give you five euro... it'll be better than
    whats on RTE for sure... :p
    ... sadly, I'm not joking :mad:


  • #4
    mudokon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭mudokon


    Yeah, Guiness never sells anywhere else but here.


  • #5
    FTGFOP
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    Morgan Freeman wrote: »
    ...me. Red

    I see you losing money on a tall drink of water with a silver spoon up their ass.

    Where's the next Flann O'Brien is what I want to know.


  • #6
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    nosey rosie wrote: »
    We're so famous for,,.... and proud of our writers.
    Now that we're going through a terrible, defining moment of ourselves as a nation ...where are the tv writers ... or books chronicling this?

    Yegods! our only internationally successful export is Mrs Browns' Boys

    If an Irish author were to write something as nakedly honest and brutal as The Wire (or, to be more precise, 'The Corner'), and it got a lot of international media attention, people would be up in arms complaining about how they make Ireland look bad.


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  • #7
    celty
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    Has it ever been any different?

    Going back to the mid-1990s, the Fr. Ted writes were conveniently ignored by RTE. Irish writers with originality and imagination have to look outside the country for TV work. It's to RTE's eternal shame that they had to go to C4 to get Fr. Ted made.

    I would love to see a mockumentary like Trailer Park Boys on Irish TV, but the Montrose would hate to see the 'underclass' from outside D4 get anywhere near their beloved channel.

    There is plenty of good stuff going on underground in Irish film and TV, but sady these innovative people don't have access to funds or airtime.


  • #8
    Sunnyisland
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    Because its not politically correct to write any thing that actually is the real Ireland, It might frighten away the investors :-)


  • #9
    pragmatic1
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    southsiderosie wrote: »
    If an Irish author were to write something as nakedly honest and brutal as The Wire (or, to be more precise, 'The Corner'), and it got a lot of international media attention, people would be up in arms complaining about how they make Ireland look bad.
    I dont know about that.Theres been some fvckin brutal stuff written about abuse and poverty in Ireland. Could not watch the Magdalene sisters.


  • #10
    Sunnyisland
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    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    I don't know about that.There's been some fvckin brutal stuff written about abuse and poverty in Ireland. Could not watch the Magdalene sisters.


    Isent that 40/50 years old,even angela's ashes was criticized and that was 1920s Ireland.


  • #11
    nosey rosie
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    southsiderosie wrote: »
    If an Irish author were to write something as nakedly honest and brutal as The Wire (or, to be more precise, 'The Corner'), and it got a lot of international media attention, people would be up in arms complaining about how they make Ireland look bad.
    Sadly, Southsiderosie, you're right. Us Irish ( we love appreciation, but can't take criticism ) wouldn't take to a Wire-style series. But I really would like it to happen anyway.

    We are due for an honest stock-taking as a nation...no?


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  • #12
    Coriolanus
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    Into The West tbh.


  • #13
    southsiderosie
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    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    I dont know about that.Theres been some fvckin brutal stuff written about abuse and poverty in Ireland. Could not watch the Magdalene sisters.

    I thought that there was some controversy surrounding the release of that movie? :confused:


  • #14
    ascanbe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    I dont know about that.Theres been some fvckin brutal stuff written about abuse and poverty in Ireland. Could not watch the Magdalene sisters.

    Concieved of and directed by a Scot, i think. Peter Mullan.


  • #15
    pragmatic1
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    realies wrote: »
    Isent that 40/50 years old,even angela's ashes was criticized and that was 1920s Ireland.
    Might have been a long time ago but the abuse didnt come to light until fairly recently. Angelas Ashes wasnt set in the 1920s either. Also dont think the Catholic league in the US would stand for a Magdalene sisters type film.


  • #16
    pragmatic1
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    southsiderosie wrote: »
    I thought that there was some controversy surrounding the release of that movie? :confused:
    Theres going to be controversy about any film that deals with a heavy subject matter like that. Especially when religion is involved.


  • #17
    pragmatic1
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    ascanbe wrote: »
    Concieved of and directed by a Scot, i think. Peter Mullan.
    Ok what about Roddy Doyles stuff and Adam & Paul. Not as heavy but definitely not light hearted either.


  • #18
    Sunnyisland
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    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Might have been a long time ago but the abuse didn't come to light until fairly recently. Angela's Ashes wasn't set in the 1920s either. Also don't think the Catholic league in the US would stand for a Magdalene sisters type film.

    Sorry 1930s.. That's the point i was trying to make if they criticize films that old what chance have we got of getting any sort of films/Books about modern real Ireland.


  • #19
    Sunnyisland
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    I thought the roddy doyle drama The family was brilliant and very real for a lot of people in this country,


  • #20
    nosey rosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭nosey rosie


    Clerical abuse is a bit of it... corrupt politicians maybe the equal other half.
    So, where is our novelist / journalist to nail this dark period down for posterity?

    There's no-one... except from here :confused:


  • #21
    pragmatic1
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    realies wrote: »
    Sorry 1930s.. That's the point i was trying to make if they criticize films that old what chance have we got of getting any sort of films/Books about modern real Ireland.
    Do you think a film that was fairly critical of the Catholic Church in Ireland could have been released any earlier. I dont. The RCC were only exposed for the scumbags they are in the 1990s. Before that they still had way too much power.


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  • #22
    ascanbe
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    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Ok what about Roddy Doyles stuff and Adam & Paul. Not as heavy but definitely not light hearted either.

    Yeah. Not disagreeing. There definitely are examples of people tackling dark issues in fairly recent times. And there are a number of novelists/playwrights etc. in our history who have.
    It is usually met with some resistance/results in some controversy; that's the same pretty much anwhere though, i'd imagine.


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