Interview next week..dont know salary

Zipppy

I applied for a job online a few weeks back...got phone call today to attend interview next week..
However I dont know salary...I'm in a permanent job at present and would only move if salary / benefits were higher...

My question is would it undermine interview process if I emailed tomorrow to ask what salary region is as I could be wasting everyone's time if salary is not high enough???

Show up and impress them, then say your minimum salary

Zipppy

A lot of effort etc in that ... plus will need time off work etc...can I be discrete and ask ball park salary??

sandra_b

It is a lot of effort and it is not easy to go for an interview - but it is a great experience.
I think it is not acceptable to talk about salary first.
Just pretend that the money is not important and do your best.
Even if they offer lower salary you have practised your interview skills
Good luck!

ongarboy

It is worth going to the interview and then asking about the salary after you have asked other informed questions that will impress the interviewers (ie ask about training opportunities, structure of the team you will be working with, career progression opportunities etc) and then throw in at the end what salary they have earmarked for the role. Often you will not have to ask it as most interviewers will bring it up as part of the set of questions they have prepared. As an interviewer of many candidates for roles in my organisation, when we ask if the candidate has any questions, I will tell you the ones that just ask about salary and holiday entitlements do not impress as those that ask questions about the job itself (eg examples I gave above)

I think you will give off a bad vibe if you ring up just to ask about the salary in advance. Again, it may be the deciding factor against an equally qualified candidate who didn't ask that question in advance should you decide to go for the interview. We often don't give salary information in the job description (apart from advising that it is dependent on experience) and instead discuss it via negotiation with the candidate (ie what their expectations are and then determine if this is something we can match). If we are really impressed by their interview and proven past experience, we will often offer more than we may have envisaged for the role.

Zipppy

ongarboy wrote: »

It is worth going to the interview and then asking about the salary after you have asked other informed questions that will impress the interviewers (ie ask about training opportunities, structure of the team you will be working with, career progression opportunities etc) and then throw in at the end what salary they have earmarked for the role. Often you will not have to ask it as most interviewers will bring it up as part of the set of questions they have prepared. As an interviewer of many candidates for roles in my organisation, when we ask if the candidate has any questions, I will tell you the ones that just ask about salary and holiday entitlements do not impress as those that ask questions about the job itself (eg examples I gave above)

I think you will give off a bad vibe if you ring up just to ask about the salary in advance. Again, it may be the deciding factor against an equally qualified candidate who didn't ask that question in advance should you decide to go for the interview. We often don't give salary information in the job description (apart from advising that it is dependent on experience) and instead discuss it via negotiation with the candidate (ie what their expectations are and then determine if this is something we can match). If we are really impressed by their interview and proven past experience, we will often offer more than we may have envisaged for the role.

Thank you for going to teh trouble of posting that excellent response... yes I will go for interview and I will revert on here afterwards !! Cheers

Eoin

I've always been told to never bring up the salary until the interviewer does.

Remember that the person or people who interview you might not actually know the salary or might not have much negotiating power themselves. Especially if one of the interviewers is a peer, rather than team lead or manager.

The money talk might be left to a second interview with more senior management/HR etc.

If this was through an agency, then I would ring though.

Mrs OBumble

They know you're employed now. Hopefully they're smart enough not to waste your time or theirs unless they can possibly afford you.

At home, I've sussed out the scale beforehand for public sector jobs, and not gone to interviews if it was too low. But don't make assumptions, if a company wants you , they will find a way.

jamesbrond

I have never and would never even entertain any discussions about a job until they at least told me a location and a salary range first.

Too many agencies now are sending emails about jobs with no info about salary on them. Why the fuk would anyone want to bother to go through the motions if they didnt know what they were applying for.

When I interview people I make sure that the salary range has been conveyed to them before they come in. I once had a guy come in for interview and it became clear he had no idea what the salary would be for the job. I thought, what an idiot. Takes time off work to come for an interview and he doesnt even know what he is expecting to earn.

Look, its completely normal for a person to want to know, before they commit to an interview process, what they are expecting to earn. Anyone who holds that against you is an idiot tbh. Kinda like the managers who crap on about loyalty when someone asks for a raise. They'll be quick enough to let you go when things get tight, wheres their loyalty?

okiss

When you do the interview don't ask about the salary. If they find out what you are currently earning they may offer you less than they planned or not offer you the job as your salary is to high.
You could go to the interview and decide that you would not like to work for them. See if you can find out anything about the company from people you know. You may discover that the company are always looking for staff, don't pay a bonus, you do the work of 3 people ect.
One friend of mine was told a few years ago after been offered a low salary that she was lucky to be moving out of Dublin.
Another friend went for a job in a well known company with the worst ever interviewer. After much questioning she told them her salary and was told we don't pay that.
My friend was so pissed off she asked what the salary would be - no answer- she then said you must have a salary scale for the job - still no answer.
She was not offered the job but she said it was there loss not hers.
Good luck with the interview.

Zipppy

jamesbrond wrote: »

I have never and would never even entertain any discussions about a job until they at least told me a location and a salary range first.

Too many agencies now are sending emails about jobs with no info about salary on them. Why the fuk would anyone want to bother to go through the motions if they didnt know what they were applying for.

When I interview people I make sure that the salary range has been conveyed to them before they come in. I once had a guy come in for interview and it became clear he had no idea what the salary would be for the job. I thought, what an idiot. Takes time off work to come for an interview and he doesnt even know what he is expecting to earn.

Look, its completely normal for a person to want to know, before they commit to an interview process, what they are expecting to earn. Anyone who holds that against you is an idiot tbh. Kinda like the managers who crap on about loyalty when someone asks for a raise. They'll be quick enough to let you go when things get tight, wheres their loyalty?

I agree with this...I hate interviews and all the prep that wil be neded over the weekend, and the time off.......especially for a job that I dont know salary for..

panda100

I definitely wouldn't enquire about the salary before hand as It will just reflect really badly on you. I used to be too shy to ask interviewers about the salary, but I've found that theythink they can corners with your salary as its not too important for you, particularly in the private sector!

I think its poor taste to ask straight out about salary. If the interview has gone by and salary still hasn't been brought up, I usually ask If I would have to work weekends or nights, and If so would the pay be different for working these hours? Usually then a discussion about salary ensues.

jamesbrond

panda100 wrote: »

I definitely wouldn't enquire about the salary before hand as It will just reflect really badly on you. I used to be too shy to ask interviewers about the salary, but I've found that theythink they can corners with your salary as its not too important for you, particularly in the private sector!

I think its poor taste to ask straight out about salary. If the interview has gone by and salary still hasn't been brought up, I usually ask If I would have to work weekends or nights, and If so would the pay be different for working these hours? Usually then a discussion about salary ensues.

So you go for interviews without knowing what the renumeration is?
Why? They are wasting your time and theirs.

Irish_Elect_Eng

Most companies HR departments are happy to give salary ranges DOE "Depending on Experience"

However at the interview itself is a completely different kettle of fish.

From RedGoldFish

What Is Your Current Salary?

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It’s a bit of a cheeky question this one and you want to give a non committal answer. You must try and remember that all companies want to save as much money on salaries as they can and if you are offered the job the chances are they are going to indicate a package either similar or slightly more than the one you’re on. If you go straight in with “I earn £ 23,000.00 plus expenses plus a car and free weekend tickets to the Manchester United games” you are setting a bench mark that you may find difficult to negotiate around. Therefore an appropriate answer to this interview question might be “it’s not really the salary that is important to me it’s the whole package that I would be more interested in”. By saying this you are being non committal and it will make negotiating an acceptable package far easier

What Salary Would You Be Expecting For This Position?

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Again another cheeky one which, ideally, you don’t want to be too committal over. If you commit to a salary at this stage you won’t be able to negotiate later on and if you ask for too much they will think they can’t afford you. If you don’t know what level of salary a position pays you can do some research on the internet. There are several sites that collect data about average industry and job role remunerations. So you could ask the interviewer a question in response to his question such as “What level of salary would you be expecting to pay for this position?” If the interviewer doesn’t want to divulge this then it’s not unreasonable for you to decline to answer too. If your interviewer quotes you a salary of say £ 19,000 then try and come back with something like “Well I was looking for a salary in the region of £ 22,000 to £ 24,000”. Your employer will always start with their bottom figure first so by asking for a little more it sets you a slightly higher bench mark. It may be that your interviewer can only go to the level he quotes but it’s fairly unlikely.